Which Canon lens is most in need of updating.

I would really very much want the f2.8 28-70 II L to have an IS. It´s such a widespread lens, so many people use it or have it top on their list. But then without IS I have my limits just too many times, i.e. early blue hour shots handheld or portrait shots in a soft low light environment. That´s really a pity.

An IS would make this lens just perfect, because the optical performance is superb.
 
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All the 50mm (except the 1.8 STM) and 85mm lenses could use some updating.

The 300 F4 and 400 F5.6 I think are in the most need of updating, but I doubt it happens. The 400 F5.6 needs IS, but adding it likely increases size and weight, and by then Canon probably figures most people would just prefer the 100-400 II.

The 300 F4 definitely needs an update. The 70-300 L is sharper in the center (albeit at a smaller aperture) and it could use a newer IS.
 
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rfdesigner said:
Title says it all.. I know what I want, I've stated it often enough.. but what would others want without biasing the thread.

Let's list your top 3 in order.

Canon's Zooms are pretty amaziing, and recently they gave some love to the primes with the 35 1.4L II. I think they need to address updates to their L primes.

50mm f/1.2L. I actually really like this lens, but if they were to give it some of the 35L 1.4L II love, it could be truly amazing!
85mm f/1.2L. Improve the AF (or maybe I just got multiple bad copies), and CA. I'd even be OK with changing aperture to 1.4 if needed to improve AF performance.
135 f/2. Only tried this lens once, and it was OK. If only they could update it with similar IS to what is in the 100mm f/2.8L Macro!
 
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Random Orbits said:
tron said:
rfdesigner said:
Do we think adding the 16-35 f2.8 MkIII to the list is a touch cruel (vignetting)
No it is not! Right now vignetting is the only drawback so I guess the 4th time will be a charm!

version IV with a bulbous front element. ::)

...yet retaining front filter threads. That's an absolute staple 'must' feature for lens bought by bushel by events / sports / reportage folks. Drop the filter thread with a next version and folks will hang on to their last copy or look for other companies' solutions.

So perhaps they should do both: pull a Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 style design out there (see below, but drop the integral hood to allow 4x6 filter holders to work) with a comically large front filter ring. You'd have a bulbous front element to combat vignetting, and a 95mm filter ring for those who need an ND, CPL, or landscape filters. Have cake and eat it too?

- A
 

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ahsanford said:
Random Orbits said:
tron said:
rfdesigner said:
Do we think adding the 16-35 f2.8 MkIII to the list is a touch cruel (vignetting)
No it is not! Right now vignetting is the only drawback so I guess the 4th time will be a charm!

version IV with a bulbous front element. ::)

...yet retaining front filter threads. That's an absolute staple 'must' feature for lens bought by bushel by events / sports / reportage folks. Drop the filter thread with a next version and folks will hang on to their last copy or look for other companies' solutions.

So perhaps they should do both: pull a Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 style design out there (see below, but drop the integral hood to allow 4x6 filter holders to work) with a comically large front filter ring. You'd have a bulbous front element to combat vignetting, and a 95mm filter ring for those who need an ND, CPL, or landscape filters. Have cake and eat it too?

- A

Front filter threads are a must for landscapers too. Screw on CPL and ND filters are a given requirement.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
Front filter threads are a must for landscapers too. Screw on CPL and ND filters are a given requirement.

Of course, but traditional (non-astro) landscapers aren't buying the 16-35 f/2.8L III unless they want to future proof with a lens that lets them get into a completely different realm of photography someday. But for your standard landscape work, they'd be hurting their back and their wallets for an aperture they will never use. They'd be much better served with the 16-35 f/4L IS.

Hence my focus on why event / sports / reportage folks need the front filter: for a CPL to cut glare / reflections (even at those wide angles) or an ND for flash sync reasons.

- A
 
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Antono Refa said:
Busted Knuckles said:
24-105 III needs to be updated to be a competent high res lens.

What a great range, what an annoying "update"

Even though its considerable more expensive than a 50mm f/1.4 or 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6, its still a zoom kit lens, and should be expected to bottom of the L pile.

Writing off the 24-105 L II with the pejorative "kit lens" is lens snobbery. It has hardly been bettered by a full-blooded attempt by Sigma or the version III and is a well-built lens. You are treating a whole segment of the community with contempt by using "kit" in such a way because they buy or can only afford to buy a lens + camera package.
 
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AlanF said:
Antono Refa said:
Busted Knuckles said:
24-105 III needs to be updated to be a competent high res lens.

What a great range, what an annoying "update"

Even though its considerable more expensive than a 50mm f/1.4 or 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6, its still a zoom kit lens, and should be expected to bottom of the L pile.

Writing off the 24-105 L II with the pejorative "kit lens" is lens snobbery. It has hardly been bettered by a full-blooded attempt by Sigma or the version III and is a well-built lens. You are treating a whole segment of the community with contempt by using "kit" in such a way because they buy or can only afford to buy a lens + camera package.

The EF 24-105mm is my most commonly used lens, in spite of having bought other L lenses, because its a useful lens with good price-performance ratio. My contempt to myself has been duly noted.

It is no more a pejorative than macro or ultra wide. Its what a lens sold in "a lens + camera package" called, in this case because its a useful lens with good price-performance ratio.

The Sigma 24-105mm Art is cheaper than the EF 24-105mm L, so I doubt Sigma made "a full-blooded attempt" to better it.

[Oh, yes, I know the Canon L can be bought for a lower price. Its only because Canon sells it in a kit, and gives up some of the profit margin on it, which Sigma can't.]

Are you satisfied, or should I send written apology with a bokeh of flowers?
 
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Most in need updating / creating

1. EF 50mm f1.4L
2. EF 65mm f1.4L
3. EF 85mm f1.4L
4. EF 100mm f1.4L

Along with the 24mm f1.4II, 35mm f1.4L II gives a consistent maximum F stop which makes them suitable for stills & video.
 
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