Will you wait for Canon 6D MKII and 5D MK IV (2016 releases) ....?

[RobertG.]

I'm tired of the noise of my 5DII. Even if I shoot at ISO 100 and raise the shadows by just 1EV there is a lot of noise. There is also quite a lot of noise in a blue sky with perfect exposure. I'm not sure a 5DS will help me that much because the sensor design is basically the same. I don't want to wait for a 5DIV, which might be anounced in a year and ships in 1.5 years for probaly EUR 3.899. I really like the handling of the 5D cameras but these Canon sensors.... I don't want more DR but less noise at low ISO (100-400).

Now I'm looking forward to the new Sony cameras. Even a minor update of the A7R would be very tempting. I don't my mind slow autofocus. Most of my main lenses are manual focus and there are pretty good new 35mm & 90mm lenses for the Sony FE mount, so street photography and portraiture is covered as well as landscape photography with my adapted TS-E lenses.

 

[jeffa4444]

I really like my current 6D but equally I know its limitations. Firstly large areas of grey sky correctly exposed often show pattern banding which no amount of adjustment in Lightroom will eliminate this type of artefact I don't see on Sony sensors and is a trait I find in the 7D and other Canon cameras. Secondly the GPS if enabled should be OFF when the camera is turned off or have the ability in the menu to select the option. Thirdly even 19 point AF would be an improvement this is one area Canon were nothing short of "mean" with its specification. Lastly regardless of what others think in Landscape you can never have enough DR and the human eye / brain can handle at least 20 stops so at 11 / 12 stops Canon has a long way to go.

In all other respects the 6D is a very worthy camera and greatly under estimated as a travel / landscape tool.

 

[ashmadux]

I really like my current 6D but equally I know its limitations. Firstly large areas of grey sky correctly exposed often show pattern banding which no amount of adjustment in Lightroom will eliminate this type of artefact I don't see on Sony sensors and is a trait I find in the 7D and other Canon cameras. Secondly the GPS if enabled should be OFF when the camera is turned off or have the ability in the menu to select the option. Thirdly even 19 point AF would be an improvement this is one area Canon were nothing short of "mean" with its specification. Lastly regardless of what others think in Landscape you can never have enough DR and the human eye / brain can handle at least 20 stops so at 11 / 12 stops Canon has a long way to go.

In all other respects the 6D is a very worthy camera and greatly under estimated as a travel / landscape tool.

Even though I dislike the old worn 19pt system, i agree it would help....i mean, you cant get much worse. I used the 6d for people and landscapes, and the sharp photo ratio was roughly half. Yes, half, as i am not a center point shooter. This year, i bought a 5d3. the hit(rates) keep on coming..im happy now...at least until the 5dmk4 hehe.

 

[andrewflo]

I really like my current 6D but equally I know its limitations. Firstly large areas of grey sky correctly exposed often show pattern banding which no amount of adjustment in Lightroom will eliminate this type of artefact I don't see on Sony sensors and is a trait I find in the 7D and other Canon cameras. Secondly the GPS if enabled should be OFF when the camera is turned off or have the ability in the menu to select the option. Thirdly even 19 point AF would be an improvement this is one area Canon were nothing short of "mean" with its specification. Lastly regardless of what others think in Landscape you can never have enough DR and the human eye / brain can handle at least 20 stops so at 11 / 12 stops Canon has a long way to go.

In all other respects the 6D is a very worthy camera and greatly under estimated as a travel / landscape tool.

Even though I dislike the old worn 19pt system, i agree it would help....i mean, you cant get much worse. I used the 6d for people and landscapes, and the sharp photo ratio was roughly half. Yes, half, as i am not a center point shooter. This year, i bought a 5d3. the hit(rates) keep on coming..im happy now...at least until the 5dmk4 hehe.

Couldn't agree more here. Using the 6D for nearly 2 years has taught me to never rely on anything but the center point if you want sharp focus... and of course that sharp focus you achieve will be offset by recomposing.

Even for portraits where the subject is standing perfectly still, I crave for a 5DIII with a cross-type focus point right on the eye without having to recompose.

The 19 point system would be fantastic for the 6D, but I certainly hope they can offer something a little more for the 6DII. The D600 (the 6D's main competition) had 39 focus points (9 cross-type)...

 

[Proscribo]

Thirdly even 19 point AF would be an improvement this is one area Canon were nothing short of "mean" with its specification.

Even though I dislike the old worn 19pt system, i agree it would help....

The 19 point system would be fantastic for the 6D, but I certainly hope they can offer something a little more for the 6DII. The D600 (the 6D's main competition) had 39 focus points (9 cross-type)...

New 27pt system with 2x3 on sides and 3x5 in center, preferably all cross-type (or else it can't compete with said Nikon)? ;D Or even 33pt with 3x3 on sides.

Atleast we can hope, right?

 

[ashmadux]

Thirdly even 19 point AF would be an improvement this is one area Canon were nothing short of "mean" with its specification.

Even though I dislike the old worn 19pt system, i agree it would help....

The 19 point system would be fantastic for the 6D, but I certainly hope they can offer something a little more for the 6DII. The D600 (the 6D's main competition) had 39 focus points (9 cross-type)...

New 27pt system with 2x3 on sides and 3x5 in center, preferably all cross-type (or else it can't compete with said Nikon)? ;D Or even 33pt with 3x3 on sides.

Atleast we can hope, right?

With canon... more like "dream".... :-\ :-\ :-\

Their recycled parts bin is at legendary status right now. It wouldnt be much issue, but a 6d cant focus as well as a 450d/t2i/60d/etc. and the 7d af issues (hey, 19pt system....) That , my friend, is lunacy.

 

[jrista]

Say that I have a bunch of Canon expensive lenses, and between now and then 2016, what if Sony develops a newer FF camera like the rumor A7r II ( higher ISO, quieter,speedier autofocus plus 5-axis stabilization) and MetabXXX comes up with improved faster focusing electronic adapter for Canon lenses, would you consider these options (hypothetically)? Bear in mind anything could happen between now and then .... in specifications etc ....coz' it is only a rumor.

My personal plan is to get the A7r II or A9 for my landscape photography, along with a metabones. I want to be able to use Canon's manual TS lenses for landscapes, and the MP-E 65mm zoom macro which is also manual, so the AF performance with the metabones is a non-issue for me. I'll probably get some Zeiss lenses for the E mount as well over the long run if I decide to keep Sony for my landscape photography.

I'll be selling most of my wide angle Canon lenses, including the 16-35mm, 50mm, and maybe the macro lens (depends, I do like that lens, but I may not need it if I decide to go with Sony for macro as well), and my 100-400mm. That should give me more than enough money to fund my other goals.

Those goals include getting a Sony A6000 (or possibly it's replacement) or a Samsung NX1 for a more every-day round about action camera. Both have amazing frame rates. The benefit of the A6000 is it is also e-mount, and would be compatible with the A7 series FE lenses.

Finally, I plan to get the Canon 5D IV to replace my 5D III whenever it is released, to be paired with my 600mm f/4 for my serious bird and wildlife photography.

Basically, the plan is to keep the 5D series and Canon telephoto primes for my primary action, but move to Sony for more every-day action (it's just impractical and risky to haul around the 5D III and huge, ludicrously expensive 600mm f/4 lens every day) and for landscapes. I don't like the IQ of the 5D III for landscapes. I don't much even like the IQ of the 5Ds for landscapes (although I am really impressed with the IQ of the 5Ds for portraiture...as good as the D800.) As the A7 or A9 series bodies would be used on a tripod, remotely triggered, AF performance is not an issue. Ergonomics aren't really an issue. Lens adaptability may be an issue...it would be very nice to be able to pick and choose any lens I want out of just about any lens made in the last 100 years. I could even grab the wonderful Nikon 14-24mm. The Zeiss lenses for Sony E-mount are pretty nice, and a lot are coming out to fill in the gaps in Sony's E-mount lens lineup. Plus, the IQ from the Exmor sensor is amazing, perfect for landscapes.

The A7r (and probably the Mark II) are quite cost effective as well, and the A6000 is in the same price ballpark as a Rebel with significantly more features, significantly higher frame rate, and E-mount cross compatibility with the A7 series.

Anyway, that's my personal plan...not sure if that gives you any ideas or helps or not, but I hope it will.

 

[kaswindell]

Seeing as my 5DIII is still an amazing camera, I have no reason to buy a new camera at the moment. So I guess that I will wait.

I also don't see immediate reason to move to a new 5D IV, since my 5D III serves me well.

+1

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I'm still waiting, Canon waits to put out new pro models until there are some worthwhile improvements rather than popping out a almost identical one every year. That may change if they decide that it generates a lot more sales.

 

[Dick]

Seeing as my 5DIII is still an amazing camera, I have no reason to buy a new camera at the moment. So I guess that I will wait.

I also don't see immediate reason to move to a new 5D IV, since my 5D III serves me well.

+1

Same here. I'd rather spend my money on lenses than on small irrelevant upgrades in the DSLR body

All I'd need is exposure compensation in M mode and the 5D3 could keep on serving me no matter what Canon puts out. Of course they are not giving us a firmware update to enable that feature....and I'm not sure if that feature is enough to make me buy another body.

 

[super_newbie_pro]

The price of Sony A7 (1) is very very good for people want a FF but have not a lot of money... He is at 1000€, its a FF afordable.

But the only problem for me with sony, is lens... too much expensive and for quality, i prefer canon. The only reason for me to stay on Canon FF. If we could have a new version of metabone (or other salers ?) able to delivry a better AF i will jump on sony immediatly and will not wait a Canon 6D II.

The 6D (1) is good but the AF could be better. I hope the 6D II will change that and i am ready to wait... But the 6D II will be at 2000€ / 2000$ ; 2x more that Sony A7 (1) :/ i will see...

 

[Ivan Muller]

Totally happy with the 6D, although I'm hoping the mk2 will improve/add a few things like AF, 2nd spirit level, NFC, and a few more megapixels will be welcome for those large prints....the 5Ds sure looks tempting but I think i'l wait for the 5dmk4 and/or 6Dmk2. I just cant see myself without the WIFI and GPS.

Sony alpha 7's are just the coolest cameras out there and I would love to have one, but it seems the corner sharpness is an issue, and at least for me, a deal breaker, and also Sony is not that well represented where I live, Southern Africa, and many major retailers have stopped stocking Sony's...

Enclosed a few industrial pics from my last industrial shoot a few weeks ago...6D, 24TSmk2 and 70-300L lens

 

[Machaon]

Sure I'll wait patiently for the 2016 5D Mk IV (or whenever it ships) and it's almost sure to be brilliant.

Ditto. Apart from the quality of the imaging tech, Canon bodies have stood by me even when in harsh environments or when I've treated them with disrespect. And their ergonomics are spot-on. They're great cameras to use.

So I have every faith that the 5D IV will be an amazing camera. I can't wait to get my hands on it.

I recently spent some time with two veteran photographers...

There's aspects of composition that they give massive attention to, that turns a photo into something incredible.
...
But I now strongly believe that the best photographers worry very little about the technical ability of their kit, they worry more about the fundamentals that make photography an art.

Yet having sung the praises of Canon's top bodies, I completely agree that the challenging aspect of photography is not technical but imaginative. It is my own visual imagination that holds me back, not my kit. Sabaki's is spot-on.

 

[benperrin]

I recently spent some time with two veteran photographers who do a lot of commissioned work, inbetween their private, creative photography.

All I can say is there work is phenomenal and of a higher level than what one sees from competent photographers on sites like Canon Rumours or those pages on Facebook. There's aspects of composition that they give massive attention to, that turns a photo into something incredible.

But I now strongly believe that the best photographers worry very little about the technical ability of their kit, they worry more about the fundamentals that make photography an art.

This has to be one of the best posts yet!!!

 

[NancyP]

Ivan, I like your industrial photos.
For shooting birds in flight I use center point AI servo and am far enough away that I keep the bird right under the center point and compose post capture by cropping.

 

[tcmatthews]

I am going to wait for the 6D MKII before buying a new Canon camera. I will compare it with the 5D IV and make my discussion then. I am happy with my 6D's performance for the most part. But I have been only using it for telephoto and action shot use for the last year. I am hoping for an articulating screen and updated auto focus. I am thinking of selling most my Canon APC-S lens. The cameras are not worth much so I will likely keep them.

I have been using my A7II for just about everything else. I shot most of Easter with a old FD 35mmF2 and could be happier with the results. Still need a high MP camera for landscape.

 

[YellowJersey]

My policy is to upgrade every other generation, so the 5DmkIV would have to be pretty amazing to make me consider upgrading from my 5DmkIII. And I mean REALLY amazing. I'm fairly happy with the 5DmkIII. It's not perfect and there may be better options out there, but right now, I'd rather just go out and shoot than worry about if I'm using the best gear possible. If I had to choose between spending a month in Iceland and buying a new camera, I'd choose the month in Iceland every single time, because I can't afford both! (well, actually, I can't afford either right now...)

Sure, the 5DmkIII has its limitations and I wish Canon would really push for cutting edge sensor tech, but these limitations are not insurmountable for what I shoot. A little exposure blending and some GND filters pretty much solved the DR problem. 22.3mp is plenty for me; any more and I'd have to buy a new computer to handle the files.

In the meantime, I'm focusing on saving up for glass that can do what my current lenses can't.

 

[NancyP]

I'd like a tilt-shift lens instead.
Really, I would like a more creative brain, and a younger body, but all I can do is look at more art and photos, and try to get a variety of exercise.....

 

[Sportsgal501]

I'll keep an eye out for this "lighter" 6D, everyone else is making lighter cameras while Canon wants you to continue carrying a brick of a camera.

 

[Pitbullo]

Say that I have a bunch of Canon expensive lenses, and between now and then 2016, what if Sony develops a newer FF camera like the rumor A7r II ( higher ISO, quieter,speedier autofocus plus 5-axis stabilization) and MetabXXX comes up with improved faster focusing electronic adapter for Canon lenses, would you consider these options (hypothetically)? Bear in mind anything could happen between now and then .... in specifications etc ....coz' it is only a rumor.

Yes, I´ll wait. Mabye even for the 6D mark III My trusty old 550D still works like a charm! The more I learn about photography, the more I realize that the content of the picture is what is important. Clean images at high ISO is nice, but some noise does not bother me, as long as the image content is good.