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Eloniel · Nov 3, 2025

I would love to be able to select pictures for deletion as we can do on a smartphone, select all the pictures we want and then click on delete, and then confirm if we want to cancel, delete only raw, delete only jpg or delete both.

Another interesting feature would be depth of field simulation into the EVF based on focal lense and aperture.

candyman · Nov 3, 2025

Eloniel said:
I don't know where you can get such a price for a used R5 MK2. The only person I know that can get a price around 3200€-3300€ are Canon's employees (for a new one).

Grey import. I bought a new R5m2 voor €3400 in June this year. Works perfectly fine.

Eloniel · Nov 3, 2025

fox40phil said:
my biggest not answered questions yet:

Shutter Angle for video!?

Sound record on slow mo video?! (C50 hasn't)

Buffer for RAW photos

New AF?

At least it will be again to expensive at the start to fram the early adopters... I don't pay 3k€ if I can have a used R5II for ~3300-3500€!

I don't know where you can get such a price for a used R5 MK2. The only person I know that can get a price around 3200€-3300€ are Canon's employees (for a new one).

roby17269 · Nov 3, 2025

David - Sydney said:
We won't know when Canon will sunset the RP. It also may be a one-off or remain the bridge from xxD or even XXXD to RF even though it is full frame vs APS-C for the others.
When the R8 is a 60% premium from B&H and the R10 a 10% premium to the RP's USD900 then it still has a strong presence for the lower end bodies.

FF is not only the camera but also the system of lenses that comes with it. Initially RF-S was lens-starved, but now with the Sigma additions it has developed into a nice little system. What I mean is that I assume that the main "lure" for EF-S holdouts is RF-S. And whoever among the EF-S holdouts was susceptible to transition to FF, most of them have probably already done so, given the time since EF(-S) has been declared "dead".

David - Sydney said:
Canon will need something to move the remaining DLSR xxxxD and xxxD to RF and the R10 isn't that model at this time.

Don't they have the R50 and R100 for that? We can agree that they are limited, but so are the xxxD and xxxxD cameras...

Disclaimer: I am speculating about the market and Canon's strategy, as I do not have any data or insights beyond what we all have access to

screenshooter · Nov 3, 2025

Multi-person eye focus indicator - useful for multi person portraits like family photos around the holidays when these pictures get used as Christmas cards.. It would be very helpful if the camera could provide an indicator if other people’s eyes were in focus or in front of/behind the focus plane, not just the one person the camera autofocus has locked onto.

Sure you can pixel peep and nail it, but it would be a lot faster to have the camera provide an indicator.

mangobutter · Nov 3, 2025

miker33 said:
On par with the EF 50mm f/1.2L USM, huh? So sharp in the middle, not so much in the corners. Too bad, was hoping to replace my hefty Sigma 50mm 1.4, which is sharp corner to corner but heavy enough on its own, let alone with the mount adapter.

I feel like there's lenses for that if you want that. Plenty in fact. Go get a G master or any recent RF-L lens if you want perfect robot photos. This isn't that. Also some of my greatest photos of all time were taken with the EF 50 1.4 (@f2) which is even worse than the 50 1.2 in terms of sharpness off-axis. The way it rendered, the way it had field curvature, the way the corners were "soft" was precisely what made it a magical lens. And I think they were doing the best at the time with the double-gauss design, I don't think that was intentional--but the end result was a lens that had character.

I think many experienced photographers have had enough with the "sharp everywhere/perfect everywhere" lens and I think render-lenses are making a come back. Lenses that trade complete perfection-everywhere for some character. That's what I'm hoping this lens brings back. A lens that isn't shy about being imperfect. There's a time and place for everything, including perfect lenses, but I think lenses don't always have to be so serious.

hamsterdam · Nov 3, 2025

Snapster said:
The standard in the $500-600 range is now set by lenses like Viltrox 50mm 1.4 Pro and Sirui Aurora 35mm 1.4. You get high build and image quality for that price. It's not a good look if Canon make a plastic lens with lower image quality for the same price, and then do everything they can to force you to buy their overpriced offering.

I hope they understand this and the lens will have IQ on par with the above lenses. If not it's a bit embarrassing, honestly.

but those lenses are much bigger (especially the viltrox) and, crucially, not avaialble for RF mount. Which is why canon can massively overcharge for plasticky lenses with mediocre image quality that don't even have hoods or weather sealing.

hamsterdam · Nov 3, 2025

Assumed this was referring to 50mm f/1.4 DG DN. Either way, I would not expect this lens to rival a lens specifically designed for optimal image quality. Many decade-old lenses still hold up very well today for image quality, albeit not as well for size and autofocus performance.

Snapster · Nov 3, 2025

hamsterdam said:
Why would anyone expect this $500-$600 lens to be AT LEAST as good as a lens that is double its size and price. Canon's budget primes aren't even as good as third-party lenses that are half the price (e.g., canon 24mm vs samyang 24mm for e-mount).

The standard in the $500-600 range is now set by lenses like Viltrox 50mm 1.4 Pro and Sirui Aurora 35mm 1.4. You get high build and image quality for that price. It's not a good look if Canon make a plastic lens with lower image quality for the same price, and then do everything they can to force you to buy their overpriced offering.

I hope they understand this and the lens will have IQ on par with the above lenses. If not it's a bit embarrassing, honestly.

blackcoffee17 · Nov 3, 2025

hamsterdam said:
Why would anyone expect this $500-$600 lens to be AT LEAST as good as a lens that is double its size and price. Canon's budget primes aren't even as good as third-party lenses that are half the price (e.g., canon 24mm vs samyang 24mm for e-mount).

Because that Sigma is 10 years old.

fox40phil · Nov 3, 2025

my biggest not answered questions yet:

Shutter Angle for video!?
Sound record on slow mo video?! (C50 hasn't)
Buffer for RAW photos
New AF?

At least it will be again to expensive at the start to fram the early adopters... I don't pay 3k€ if I can have a used R5II for ~3300-3500€!

hamsterdam · Nov 3, 2025

Walrus said:
Juicy, but I'm waiting from Chris Frost's word, if it's any good (aka AT LEAST on par with Sigma 50 Art at 1.4), it's probably instant buy

Why would anyone expect this $500-$600 lens to be AT LEAST as good as a lens that is double its size and price. Canon's budget primes aren't even as good as third-party lenses that are half the price (e.g., canon 24mm vs samyang 24mm for e-mount).

Del Paso · Nov 3, 2025

1ll said:
Any additional murmurs about the RF tilt-shift lens?

riker · Nov 3, 2025

Tom R5R7 said:
Depends on the criteria of judgement. In terms of pure sharpness, it was/is not exceptional, especially at wide apertures. In terms of color fidelity, it's top notch. Build quality, top notch. Quality of bokeh, top notch. A mixed bag of sorts, but form follows function and the function, the design criteria for the EF 50/1.2L did not include absolute sharpness at f/1.2 across the field. The newer RF lens does a lot better in the regard, and is also a much more expensive and complex lens design.

I would say that if overall sharpness across the field is your main criteria, the EF 50/1.2L is not the lens for you.

Important part of my criticism was AF. It was slow asf.
I tend to compare lenses to other lenses. So in a nutshell, the 85/1.4L was a really great, exceptional lens. The 50/1.2L was not.
I can't not see how the 50/1.4L is superior to the 50/1.2L similarly to how the 85/1.4L is superior to the 82/1.2L (IQ and AF as well).

Also, my #1 problem with the 50/1.8 is AF, not IQ. Not that IQ is great, the 2016 Sony 50/1.8 is superior. But I could live with the IQ, the AF is driving me nuts.

1ll · Nov 3, 2025

Any additional murmurs about the RF tilt-shift lens?

Click · Nov 3, 2025

Lovely shot.

candyman · Nov 3, 2025

What's your strategy and what tools do you use to get it completely clean again? Will the dial be particularly affected by sand, or not?

Tom R5R7 · Nov 3, 2025

riker said:
Erm...well...one of Canon's "dark secret" was EF 50/1.2 not being that good at all. With a bit of emotional bias I could say it was crap for an L lens. But for sure it was not a real L lens in terms of optical quality and also AF performance. I have never used the RF version but honestly, since I see lot of ppl changing theirs for the 50/1.4 VCM even tho they primarily shoot photo, I have my guesses.

Anyhow, if the 45/1.2 has considerably better AF than the 50/1.8, I'm in. If not, I don't need the 1.2 nor the extra weight.

Depends on the criteria of judgement. In terms of pure sharpness, it was/is not exceptional, especially at wide apertures. In terms of color fidelity, it's top notch. Build quality, top notch. Quality of bokeh, top notch. A mixed bag of sorts, but form follows function and the function, the design criteria for the EF 50/1.2L did not include absolute sharpness at f/1.2 across the field. The newer RF lens does a lot better in the regard, and is also a much more expensive and complex lens design.

I would say that if overall sharpness across the field is your main criteria, the EF 50/1.2L is not the lens for you.

dpc · Nov 3, 2025

Old Sarge · Nov 3, 2025

I have been a fan of *** devices for many years, long before they were in every vehicle. My first was a Delorme device connected to a laptop. It was followed shortly by a Garmin Street Pilot. Right now I use Canon Connect with the R7. I have the GP-E2 and have never been that fond of it. The best *** device I have used with a camera was an off brand of some kind that I put on my camera strap. The device worked fine and what made it best was the software. When you synced it on your computer it usually gave the exact address of where the picture was taken. I think a good *** would be a plus for the R series cameras, the only downside was the power drain they cause.

riker · Nov 3, 2025

Erm...well...one of Canon's "dark secret" was EF 50/1.2 not being that good at all. With a bit of emotional bias I could say it was crap for an L lens. But for sure it was not a real L lens in terms of optical quality and also AF performance. I have never used the RF version but honestly, since I see lot of ppl changing theirs for the 50/1.4 VCM even tho they primarily shoot photo, I have my guesses.

Anyhow, if the 45/1.2 has considerably better AF than the 50/1.8, I'm in. If not, I don't need the 1.2 nor the extra weight.

m4ndr4ke · Nov 3, 2025

Walrus said:
Pics are 100% centre crops

"when wide open, a little soft in the middle"...I wouldn’t call this a little soft, probably "festival of spherical aberration" is more appropriate
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"By f/2, the middle was sharp and mid-frame was getting much better"...I'd say definitely not sharp by any means (it's at f1.8 but you're not doing magic with 1/3rd stop extra closure), it's still partying at the spherical aberration festival, albeit it's getting close to the end of the festival...probably it doesn't catch up with the RF 50 1.8 until f5.6 or even f8 looking at the progression, shame on me I have deleted the original test pictures with the narrower apertures, so we could also look in the corners, I reckon maybe corner sharpness at f8 can match the RF at f1.8 in the centre...
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C'mon, why defend one of the worst lenses that Canon ever made? It's terrible, any of the various old EF 50 1.8 was WAY sharper than this up to f4 and when you get there to match, what's the reason to buy the f1.4 if it's unusable before closing 3 stops?

Hmm I also think my 50mm f/1.4 was slightly better, I'd say at f/1.4 it was similar to what you got at f/1.8, BUT I never tried the lens at 30MP, and I'm speaking entirely from memory of something I sold over four years ago so, I could be wrong. Still crap though. The RF nifty fifty wipes the floor with it.

By the way, that result at f/1.4 is very similar to my old 70-200mm f/2.8 at 200mm f/2.8, so now you know

Tom R5R7 · Nov 2, 2025

Walrus said:
Pics are 100% centre crops

"when wide open, a little soft in the middle"...I wouldn’t call this a little soft, probably "festival of spherical aberration" is more appropriate
View attachment 226734

"By f/2, the middle was sharp and mid-frame was getting much better"...I'd say definitely not sharp by any means (it's at f1.8 but you're not doing magic with 1/3rd stop extra closure), it's still partying at the spherical aberration festival, albeit it's getting close to the end of the festival...probably it doesn't catch up with the RF 50 1.8 until f5.6 or even f8 looking at the progression, shame on me I have deleted the original test pictures with the narrower apertures, so we could also look in the corners, I reckon maybe corner sharpness at f8 can match the RF at f1.8 in the centre...
View attachment 226735

C'mon, why defend one of the worst lenses that Canon ever made? It's terrible, any of the various old EF 50 1.8 was WAY sharper than this up to f4 and when you get there to match, what's the reason to buy the f1.4 if it's unusable before closing 3 stops?

My copy was much better than that.

Click · Nov 2, 2025

Beautiful series. Well done,ISv.

ISv · Nov 2, 2025

Yesterday sunny and hot, today gloomy with some light rain (which I avoided). The goal yesterday was the Red Avadavat. Didn't see it and in my frustration took a close portrait of Muscovy Duck at the parking lot.

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