klickflip said:

Hi, wonder if anyone can help .

the servo tracking isn’t as direct / quick as I am used to working on 5d 4 .
basically I am used to working in single shot small point mode , then press a programmed button to engage servo tracking on that point.
then I recompose or pan the moving subject/ person for the desired shot/ framing .

what I find in the R5 is single point with servo does not track on the frame. Just the distance on that point .
and in servo tracking (face detection) case 1 , it can be a bit jumpy and take few seconds to lock on , if model is not fully front face on .
which is often the case.
I’m a professional lifestyle. Fashion and portrait photographer , so I need to be seamless between single shot and a cf button to engage servo.

ive set up AF-on button to switch between single shot and servo. That works well .
And m-Fn to switch face tracking on off.
and focus point select button with top dial to switch between focus point area mode and tracking mode.

why can’t I just engage servo on single point mode and that point will track ?
that would be the simplest , as I used my 5d 4 .

the face tracking is good , but not as good as the reviews are saying/ showing . Of eyes are not looking to camera , a lot of the time I don’t have models actually looking to camera.
I’ve often got to wave camera around till it gets a basic area to track , then it will refine itself and find and eye .
and if there are 3 or 4 people in the shot -it will lock to the most front facing face , which isn’t always what I need.
as I said I shoot a lot of natural lifestyle and fashion , and Models are often looking of to the distance or at each other .. not the camera.

often I have to jump between same shot but switch focus to product in their hand , then back to face really quickly to get 2 options of the same pose.

but for more static portraits the eye detect works fairly well .

it seems over complicated to me .

I think it should just have , single point , that can be superseded by servo tracking on that point. (By custom button)
And that can then be switched to eye detect at any time . With custom button.
- but single point won’t override to eye detect with my custom button .

any ideas folks?

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@klickflip I have the same experience too albeit with EOS RP. I have asked this question to a technical person at a Canon service center and he says that servo tracking only works with Facedetect option selected. It seems that for (all?) Canon mirrorless models, servo tracking only works with Face detect mode. I too am interested to hear what other experienced members have to say about this.

Regards
Suman

Fake RF Lenses
I own both the 400mm and 600mm EF lll when I start comparing the fotos against my lenses. The original Canon photos are showing the latest EF plus a silver adapter/converter that my be fixed ?
Every new real RF Lense has a control ring. Where ist it ? The length has to be corrected to +25mm (converter EF RF)
Minimum focus distance in the specs is the same. This is same same but different ;-)

We have to wait.
Maybe the marketing is selling that as the first RF Lens that you can convert to EF.

I have never hit the thermal protection on the R5 as I always work within the stated limits. I was not aware of the limitation in 1080 120fps as I do not use this mode.

Thanks for testing this, now you know (along with the rest of use) to budget for a thermal limitation when shooting anything that is important using 1080 120fps.

I am confused to how this is "awful", but I do not claim to know your use cases for overheating the Camera.

Cheers

slclick said:

It's not worth it...just read, chomp the popcorn and chuckle.

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Or just put him on ignore.

The overall winner is Mads Nissen with an image of an embrace given to a resident of a care home in Sao Paulo.
Taken with a fully outdated vintage Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Exposure data:
50mm (lens not namend), 1/1600, f/5.6, ISO 200

Look for his photo and the other winners at:

CONFIRMED:

New Canon R5 Firmware Version 1.3.1 released April 14th fixes the problem, and the Samyang AF 14mm F2.8 RF with Firmware Version 3 now communicates properly with full function restored.

Michael Clark said:

Not when it's a preproduction loaner from the manufacturer.

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You can't fix weather sealing with a firmware tweak. Even if you could one of the reasons to put cameras into the hands of people is to see all the weird things they might do that nobody in lab thought to test.

It's better to find out that a autumn rainstorm bricks the camera before you ship it and not after.

labmansid said:

I happened to click on the support site for the R5 and noticed a new firmware version, v1.3.1, is available as of today. I didn't see any mention of it yet, so thought I would share. Thoughts?

Looks like there is one item that was added to version 1.3.

13. Fixes a phenomenon, in which when shooting with Canon Log 3, if the [View Assist.] setting is set to [On], the image in the viewfinder and on the LCD screen is displayed brighter than it should be.

*Items 1 through 12 apply to Version 1.3.0, whereas Item 13 applies to Version 1.3.1.

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Thanks for that. Not using video but I want to have the latest firmware. So I have downloaded and installed it.

Well that settles it.

People seem uncertain as to whether the 1.4 on the macro is magnification or it falling short of 1:1.

It's magnification.

PS: He could at least have used a dime that wasn't so scratched up!

David - Sydney said:

Quite an essay!
I bought a 7D as my only camera due to cost. To assume that all or most crop sensor buyers would buy a R7 as a second body is based on your experience. Your assumption that the R7 will be
Relatively cheap like the 7D/ii is a big assumption

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Cheap is always a relative term. Compared to the R5, the R6 is cheap. Currently the R5 sells for 152% what the R6 is going for in the U.S. ($3,800 vs. $2,500). If history is any indication (though it may not be with the unique market conditions we currently have regarding production capacity and the current state of the memory market), the R6 will start edging down in price well before the R5 will. Compare the prices of the 6D and 6D Mark II eighteen months after introduction to the prices of the contemporary 5D Mark III and 5D Mark IV eighteen months after introduction. Will the R7 be as cheap as the 7D was? No. But then the R5 is not as cheap as the 5D series was, and the R6 is not as cheap as the 6D series was, either.

As for the typical user of the 7D and 7D Mark II: It seems to me based on my experience at a lot of youth sports and high school sporting events as well as hot air balloon festivals, air shows, etc. over the past decade plus there were a lot more folks who bought a 7D as a single body than there were who later bought the 7D Mark II as their only body. I knew plenty of folks who had a single 7D. I knew almost no one who had a 7D Mark II that didn't also have at least a 6D, if not one or more 5-series bodies. A lot of that had to do with the introduction of the 6D in 2012 that lowered the price of admission to the FF club from $3,500 to $2,200. Most of the original 7Ds that were sold had already been bought by then. After the 70D came along in 2013, sales of the 7D dropped even more. Even those who wanted a 7D rather than a 70D or 6D were waiting for the 7D Mark II, which many expected to see as early as 2011 or 2012, based on the replacement cycles of the 30D/40D/50D/etc.

With how Canon "downgraded" the 60D compared to the 50D in many ways, a lot of folks who wanted a replacement for their 50D chose the 7D. The shot-to-shot inconsistency of the 7D's AF system frustrated many of us and when the 70D was introduced with a slightly better sensor most of those folks shooting a single "prosumer" crop body went back to the x0D line and left the 7D line as a specialized sports/action camera to be used with FF telephoto lenses to give more "reach".

That movement only increased when the 80D was rolled out barely a year after the 7D Mark II. The 80D was a better general purpose body than the 7D Mark II, especially when shooting below ISO400. I saw/knew a lot more folks who had a 7D as their only body than I later saw/knew who had a 7D Mark II as their only body. Almost all of the 7D as their only body folks I know eventually replaced it with either a 70D or an 80D (or a 6D if they weren't into sports/action/birding).

I saw a lot of folks shooting 7D + EF 100-400 around 2010-13 at balloon festivals, airshows, and the like. By 2014-17, those same folks were shooting 70D/80D bodies with the EF 100-400 II.

I'm all for the best quality first (which they did). However, now that those are out of the way, they could do something a bit more universal even though there will be a price to pay in IQ. However even at what I think will be a minor IQ loss, it still should meet many use cases as acceptable to many users.

Used an R6 with a Novaflex FD to RF adaptor. All
Shot at f/5.6. The horses were shot handheld, which wasn’t easy, the rest on a tripod. Light was better with the horses though, so they turned out a bit better anyway I think. I was a good bit closer to the horses than the alligators...

stevelee said:

If I am not too confused, the lens is rumored to be able to put an image on the sensor that is 1.4x the size of the bug. With the EF 100 macros, the bug image is the same size as the bug at 1:1.

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Thank you

Billybob said:

everyone seems to have a different DR measure.

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There is no standard way of measuring dynamic range but it seems pretty easy in theory.
Just have a scene with a wide range of T-stops.
(I have no idea why so many test with F-stops)
There is testing equipment that goes up to 20 stops but the stops in the test have to line up with the stops in the camera which if you knew you would not need to do the test.
Next, the dynamic range of the lens has to match.
There is no true dynamic range test though there are so many people who claim that they know the true dynamic range and all of the camera companies are lying.

Sludz said:

This didn’t age well

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Chromatic aberration and spherical aberration are the same thing right?

I followed this up with the Nikon 105mm DC lens that has the same ability to adjust spherical aberration. It’s helpful in portraiture when you stop down because of the narrow range of DoF. I still can’t see the benefit in Macro shooting. To Canon’s credit, the EF 100mm macro likely sold more copies for portrait work than macro work with it’s cheap complaint being harsh bokeh stopped down. At least portrait shooters have an expensive tool to add to their bag.

Ah, didn't see that one. Will join in other thread.

While this lens was cool in some ways (can put it in a shirt pocket), I never used it due to other better lenses available that were close in focal length and also small - ie 35mm f/2 IS & 50mm f/1.8 STM. Thus it was more of a novelty

Mt Spokane Photography said:

It does not matter what the lens is, the R5 will improve the image resolution. That's just physics. I found the improvement to be enough so that I noticed it on all my lenses. I attribute that to the increase in MP. I was previously using both EF and RF lenses on my R and my 5D MK IV. The most noticeable improvement was on a 50mm f/2.5 that I kept on my R due to its small size. It was almost as though a veil were lifted. The L lenses did not show such a big improvement.

So, if you can afford it, get a R5 and keep using your existing lenses until you see a need to replace them. If you have a DSLR, increased IQ might also come from more accurate focusing, but only when there are horizontal features for the camera to focus on. A future quad pixel sensor will bring another boost to AF capability.

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I got my RF to EF adapter yesterday. Will try out my current L-collection this week. Particularly interested in my 100mm f/2.8 L macro. I've used it on my 5D IV for a year or two and it's just amazing on that 30 MP sensor. Can't wait to check it out with my R5.

koenkooi said:

The camera will even refuse it on V90 cards, so CFe is the only way to go for slow-mo currently.

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True. I have a 512 GB CF express (think it's Sandisk, not sure) and it only works when saving to that, not with my Sony Though 256GB UHS II.

Dockland said:

It's still out of stock in Sweden. Been waiting for a while now.

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Got mine yesterday, the store got a batch of 13 adapters

EOS 4 Life said:

Ah, so the way the name came about is similar to four-thirds where micro four-thirds is the mirrorless mound for a four-thirds sensor.
Good to know.

Thanks!

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I should have really said holdover instead of throwback, as it was probably just continuously used before, during and after the transition from tubes to chips. But that was a little before my time in the industry(mid-ish 90's). By the time I started shooting, then, every camera I laid my hands on was CCD. Until large sensor cameras, with CMOS sensors, started to really come into play.

My camera stays in Airplane mode. Solves a lot of issues and I don't see why the majority of shooters on here couldn't leave it in that mode.

Would love to see the results.

Yes, that's exaxtly what I did. Had a bit of a session the other day since that happened and it did'nt happen again once. How is that 100-500 working out? Iv'e been using a Sigma 100-400 and it actually manages reasonably well, i'd imagine the 100-500 rf performs significantly better...

Thanks, and I agree with you that they should be in a separate division. They involve a different skill set entirely. BTW, this year my husband made the 8K cut but I didn't! There's always next year--more practice, more pictures!
Catherine