Jaysheldon said:

I want to know how many focus points the R6 will have (although it will be replacing my 6D, so anything above 11 will be a bonus.... ) and how fast/accurate the AF will be I hope it will be better than the 80/90D bicycle tests done by DPReview. ( https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-90d-review/6). Also interested in the resolution and frame rate of the viewfinder

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The 90D bicycle test was set up to fail in the light in that location when they did the test. There's no contrast anywhere on the cyclist's face. DPR's bicycle test scene is subject to wide variations in natural lighting and different hair color/helmet colors-contrast/skin tones of different riders. It is inherently flawed. The *same* camera tested with the different conditions and test subjects would likely show as much difference as two different models tested under different conditions do. If their 90D test had a rider with the same black cap and the bright white "H" in the middle of it providing high contrast (the one the rider was wearing in the α7rIII test) and the AF point had actually been centered on the head of the rider, I'm fairly confident their 90D results would have been much different than they were. In the 90D LV test the face was getting more light and was brighter and had more contrast. Of course it did better! If the OVF test had been shot under the same condition, it would have done more than "slightly" better.

Dragon said:

I just ordered a Kenko HD 1.4 TC (that works with EF-s lenses) to put behind an EF-s 55-250m and in front of an EF-M adapter. That results in 98-350 with f/8 max, so pretty close to the discussed lens and the 55-250 is very sharp at the long end, so that combo should give a pretty good feel for the new lens. Given that the Kenko TC also works with standard EF lenses, it should produce almost a FF image circle, so the 55-250 with TC may work well on a FF body as well. At a minimum, it will be an interesting experiment for not very much investment.

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Follow up. I just tested the 55-250 with the new Kenko TC on a 90D and the result is not bad at all. The center is not quite as sharp as a 70-300L, but with a TC, that is no surprise. It is, however, quite decent even on the 90D. The edges have some CA, but that seems to clean up pretty well in LR. Magnification is only a little more than the 70-300L (maybe 320mm), so the 55-250 looks like it really tops out at about 225. Also just checked it on the 5DSr and it seems to provide almost a full image circle with a bit of vignetting in the very corners. I will try the combo out on an M5, but no reason to believe it won't work well and as a proof of concept for the lens under discussion, the answer is basically, I would buy the new lens in a heartbeat for my M kit.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

Yes, thats typical. Those who preorder on the first day or two get their cameras, but when demand is higher than expected, latecomers will have to wait for the 2nd or 3rd shipment. Stocking stores in countries around the world takes a huge number of cameras, and the factory plans a production rate based on sales forecasts. Its just impossible to make enough initially when a product popularity exceeds predictions.

The Coronavirus may indeed be affecting production, I'll bet Canon is scrambling to get components, and is having to pay more for them than expected. It may get worse. If I wanted the MK III, I'd order one immediately, because they may be very hard to get later. Unfortunately, my wrists can no longer take the weight.

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I wonder how quickly the factory can produce the cameras. I assume they're assembled by hand, and if there's thousands in line on backorder lists it could be months until all orders are fulfilled. Not to mention slowdowns due to coronavirus in Asia.

koenkooi said:

There's a rumour on the frontpage about a new speedlite: https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-r5-and-a-new-speedlite-appear-for-certification/

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It's highly unlikely to be a speedlite. Canon's speedlites don't use the 5 GHz RF range.

It's clunky, but it's a solution. You can write RAW to the SD in camera and in the Camranger 2: https://camranger.com/camranger-2/

SecureGSM said:

No, this is a great way to satisfy a "photographer's dream"
100mm end of 100-400 is a bit too long at time for sports.
70-400 is your 100-400 with a wider end. Just perfect.

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100mm isn't a great starting point for landscapes either

tron said:

Coincidentally I have bought it recently but I haven't fully tested it apart from the fact that both positions work. It is a slow charger but slim at the same time so I bought it for travelling without a car as a second charger in place for my bigger double one (second charger) that uses mains and car battery.

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Yeah it is bit slow but my goal was for Camping and extended times where I am just using Solar panels to charge my power packs. Works well enough to keep me powered

bbb34 said:

@Bert63, It's just a car. And not even a beautiful one.

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And definitely not theirs.

I was raised differently I guess.

Frodo said:

Does this also happen with the EVF?

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The specific moment yes. I can make my DSLRs to do it in reality this happens very rarely and I can turn the manual focus ring and fix it immediately or I can set "Lens drive when AF impossible" set to ON. So I have set it back that way to my R. I do not use it for birding so it can stay to ON, no problem.
I believe Canon could customize it to make a first attempt to focus anyway especially if the camera is set to one shot.

I think what you want is a lens that is optimized for video, not cinema. One with a silent AF motor and with IS to reduce shake.

But first, use your L lenses, they are likely very good for what you are doing, far better than most. You will want a monitor of some sort assuming you don't have a person shooting the video and its a 1 person operation. A mic and boom or a clip on mic plus good lighting make for better looking videos. Put money there rather than into cine lenses.

Cine lenses are really for a whole different world than youtube video or wedding videos, etc.

Update: Sold back to the store I bought it from, for the same price I bought it for. OK, then! If they re-sell it and the next owner is unhappy with the IQ, that person will then be able to deal with the store directly, which seems ethically fine to me. Thanks for your comments - I'm glad to done with it. Onward with primes!

koenkooi said:

Not just the images, have a look at https://www.canon.co.uk/lenses/rf-70-200mm-f2-8l-is-usm-lens/specifications/ and scroll down to "Extender Compatibility".

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I knew I had a good reason to keep my EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II

Looks really promising if Canon will bring a similar performance to the upcoming mirrorless bodies.

Act444 said:

Expect at least 5-7 years before the RF line of lenses gets fully fleshed out.

Actually I’m somewhat impressed that a Canon is moving as quickly as they are on this. It’s showing a level of dedication that we don’t often see from them.

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I think they have been working on these designs for some time, ether that or they are just pro's at it by now. They do have the widest range of lenses out there, unless I am sorely mistaken.

I should say it's a lot better imo. The splatter is much smaller blobs, I'm happy with it, after all it's a mechanical device with moving parts, talking of moving parts they travel at such speed you are bound to get something, dust, fibres, oil and anything else that finds it's way into the mirror box and prism housing and so on. One of those things, I used my old OM10 last week, the viewfinder even has small mushrooms haha

bergstrom said:

the biggest complaint i heard from people about the 5div was that it was great etc, but the video files were unmanageable because of file size etc.. Now, if this eos r5 gets 8k, how is THAT going to be managed by the average joe with his 4-8g ram pc?

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8K is not for the average joe, period. But the R5 shoots h.265 4K which is way more lightweight than MJPEG.

mangobutter said:

Woo-wee

RF 50 1.8

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• Focal length 48.70
• F-number 1.85
• half angle (in degrees) 23.95
• Image height 21.64
• total lens length 58.55
• BF 19.38

and RF 14-28 F2

• Focal length 14.42 19.78 27.16
• F-number 2.06 2.06 2.06
• Half angle of view 56.32 47.56 38.54
• Image height 21.64 21.64 21.64
• Total lens length 164.32 150.29 146.47
• BF 16.13 16.13 16.13

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I've always dreamed of a zoom trinity that doesn't overlap: 14-28, 28-70, 70-135... WOW!

Far too expensive (the camera-bag is no Lowepro!).

Labdoc said:

Why keep the megapixels secret when you already announced a long list of features?

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Gotta' keep the buzz going!

Michael Clark said:

Facepalm. That seal was not on that box when it left the Canon factory. It was placed on the box at some point downstream from the last place Canon or one of its regional subsidiaries had control of that box.

Refurb lenses, which are not shipped in retail packaging, can be a different story. Some of Canon's refurb lenses, at least in the U.S., are shipped from third party logistics providers.

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You don't appear to want to listen, so I'm done.

slclick said:

Seems like a decent amount of differences.

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Yeah, actually a few more than I thought. Most of those are thanks to DIGIC 8.

Jethro said:

The 1DX III gets an extra DIGIC dedicated to AF, doesn't it?

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The wording makes it seem that extra DIGIC only processes the data from the external AF sensor, so it wouldn't be needed on mirrorless.

sanj said:

Perhaps we can predict what will be the differences/similarities between the 1dx3 and R5.
I guess:
1. 1dx3 will be much better build quality.
2. 1dx3 will be much better on battery life.
3. 1dx3 will have tripple the buffer.
4. 1dx3 will have shorter focus time (marginally so)
5. 4k video will be identical on both cameras.
6. 1dx3 will be a half stop better at high ISO.
7. The 'response time' will be better in 1dx3. (Much better)

What else?

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8. 1DX 3 will need micro AF adjustment, R5 won’t.
9. 1DX 3 won’t show you the photo you just took in the viewfinder, the R5 will.
10.1DX 3 won’t really give you much cropping capabilities, the R5 will.
11.1DX 3 will not be a half stop better than the R5 if you normalize the photos (compare apples to apples).

Jack Douglas said:

I used hockey as the example of getting a goal (shooting is required or you can't score) not shooting with the camera, so I had a good chuckle. I don't shoot sports so far, almost always it's little birdies, but not golf. Maybe someone shooting hockey does pre-focus on the net.

Jack

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From now on, you will be known as Slap Shot Jack, the Paul Newman of CR.

Viggo said:

I had a look at the 28-70 yesterday for the first time and I did not expect it to be that big, it made the 85 look like EF 50 L, lol.

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Yup. It is a monster.