Michael Clark said:

There have been plenty of superior products who lost the marketing war.

The classic example is VHS vs. BETAMAX.

Or Tucker vs. GM/Ford/Chrysler.

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As usual, lots of throwing around of 'marketing' without any basis in facts.

VHS vs BETA: Beta was more expensive for both the players and tapes, it's video and audio quality improvements were minor and not able to be discerned except on the highest end home theater setups, and most importantly, it's recording times were half of VHS which was a huge issue given the price of the tapes was also higher. It lost on price and features, not due to 'marketing'.

As for Tucker, starting a car company was hard and they engaged in some shady business practices which resulted in an SEC investigation. The demise of that company is again much more complicated than 'marketing' and they were actually innovative at that aspect for their time.

LSXPhotog said:

You're a genius!!!! I went into the software and reset everything and put it back on the camera and the menu option for IS was now available! Works great!!! Thank you...and sorry Canon, but I won't be buying the RF lens just yet. LOL

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Great news. Enjoy your 50Art.

Before I sold my 5D4 I was on the verge of trying out EOSmsg. Never did though, but it's the only Windows app I know of. EOS R is listed as supported it seems.

thanks seniors for the guidance as always ..I love the canonrumors forum and members

RF has an 85 with another on the way, a 50 and a 35. Surely the next needs to be a 24mm. Either a 1.2 or a 1.4L or a 1.8 or a 2.0 IS. A 24mm something and the 70-200 f/4L IS are on my short list. I'm somewhat embarrassed to say that the only fast wide I've ever had is the 28 f/1.8 I picked up very early on before I learned about lens reviews...

koenkooi said:

I only use eye-AF in servo mode, which seems to be accurate enough on my RP and M6II. Does the hit rate increase for you when you use eye-AF in servo mode?

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Thanks for the feedback. I'm yet to try it in servo mode. I'll give it a go and report back.. cheers

If I refresh the BH order page every 30 minutes, that'll move me up on the queue every time. Right?

privatebydesign said:

She seems to be putting out a good amount of videos and even though she is a Canon EOL I have faith in her experience, photography, and enthusiasm and don't take her videos as infomercials. She did do a video on the 28-70 but it was on the R6, she liked the lens but it didn't really fit her style and she did say it was very heavy, but you probably saw that one too!

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Yeah, saw the one with the 28-70 f2 + R6.... was hoping to get an updated one w/ the R5.

I am still using the 24-105 f4 kit lens for that range, and am seriously debating replacing it with the 28-70 f2 vs 24-70 f2.8. With the R, the f2 wasn't really on my radar... but with IBIS, it looks way more attractive. The only thing that would prevent me from getting the f2 is size and weight... but not entirely sure that would really stop me. Always wanted to take up weight lifting again .

That really sucks, sorry this has happened to you. But now, we should see at least one R5 in the refurbished stock.

Andrew Reid bought a 1DXIII and returned it due to a malfunctioning scroll wheel, hard to believe given that its an EOS-1.

Ok I did another comparison, this time with something that wouldn't have a chance of moving. Both 10 second exposures at f16 this time, first one with IBIS on, second one with IBIS off. I also used the exact same focus for each. In the last one, I autofocused before each one, so that might have thrown off the results.

I really don't see a difference in this one.

AlanF said:

In your opinion, is it now acceptably sharp? If so, then fine.

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Looks a little soft to be honest, which is why I boosted the sharpness/clarity to begin with. It was at f2.8 on the EF 70-200 2.8 ii.

unfocused said:

And yet, we keep hearing that Canon is going to ditch the 5D and 6D and 7D. Sad.

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Maybe it wasn't until now that a worthy mirrorless existed.

Great shot. Well done, Glenn.

Canon USA is back online...

Able said:

I appreciate the replies. I’ve got money saved up and I’m looking for a new second camera before the next wedding in November. I need a reliable camera because during the ceremony and the reception I will be running one of the cameras on a tripod for around 30 min.
If I buy an R6 there are ZERO 4K modes where it doesn’t overheat and on the R5, I have to be careful to put it in the correct 4K mode or I’ll have the same problem.
In these Run and Gun wedding situations sometimes minor Errors can happen that can become huge problems. With the EOS R I have ZERO worries that my video will be ruined by overheating.
In short: I’m disappointed in the new cameras since they don’t fit my specific needs. I came home late and made this lame thread and didn’t realize I clicked “SUBMIT” until I came back to this site. Thanks again everyone for your replies and insight.

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The R5 and R6 are 100% reliable and considerably more capable at higher quality than your R.

To say you are disappointed by the product you are offered because you might set a setting wrong is laughable when you consider the multitude of other things that you could do wrong. But even given that just set your preferred video settings to a C mode and you are done it will never overheat, see, it does fit your specific need.

Kit Lens Jockey said:

Ah, I understand. I was also suspicious about maybe another part of the camera outside of where the temperature was being measured may be getting hot. I had heard that the CF express cards get hot, but I'm surprised that they seem to be the bottleneck for how long this camera can record for. But I guess that does give hope that newer CF express cards may run cooler in the future.

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I think newer tech working better is unlikely as it would be a newer standard that isn't implementable retroactively, like SD and SD UHS-II. I understand some people need more than the R5 can do but for them I'd just say move on and get a camera that does do what you need. The R5 does do what Canon says it does and you should plan any purchasing decision on that, and by most reasonable accounts and examples I have seen the standard 4k is extremely close to the 4kHQ and that is unlimited. I have also seen accounts of people shooting entire weddings with an R5 in one of the HQ modes using it smartly with the published design limitations in mind.

There will be people making a noise and EOSHD seem to have staked their claim as being the most ridiculously mistreated by Canon for daring to sell such a POS camera. Others are using it for what it was designed for and within its stated limits and are loving it.

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sobrien said:

Lots of people complained that the 5D4/R images were producing skins tones that were too green. You can’t please everyone when it comes to colours!

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If I’m honest, I think a red tint is easier to deal with on skin than a green one. Red can be worked with, but green just looks....unnatural. IMO. That’s a change I lamented going from the 5D3 to the 5D4. Of course, no color cast at all would be ideal, but if one had to be picked...

It’s the blandness that I dislike though, not so much the tint. It seems to be challenging at best to replicate older colors, at least in DPP.

wockawocka said:

No, it wasn't that as I saw the info displayed on it like normal.

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I've seen that video footage too, but I haven't been able to find an option in the menu to change the display to a white background. Sorry!

Canon is on quite a large product "offensive"....

2 new Rx cameras with surely a high MP version within 12 months
R1 good chance for for the Olympic Games in 2021
New Cinema R cameras
New Cinema EOS cameras
Possible 1 or 2 M bodies
RF lenses

It seems that they've been doing a lot of design / development for the past 3 years (maybe longer) to create a step up in capabilities which is now all coming to fruition - which is damned good news for everyone...

It looks like now if your remove the express cards and attach an Atomis Shogun 7, you can film in 8 or 4 K till the end of time, the overheating issue does not happen. Then when your ready to take pics, put the express cards back in. I'm good with that. Winters coming, long live the R5 in the North

crappy that these new RF teleconverters wont work w/ the RF 70-200mm but that is a very compact lens

Really good to see a focus on third party EF lenses with them ultimately working very well.

Very little standing in the way of getting an R5 now, aside from the wait for a bit of a price drop.

Kit Lens Jockey said:

I don't think this is useful for mirrorless cameras. I don't even think the R or the R5 have AF micro adjustments in their menus. I know the Sony A7III had it when I briefly owned that camera, but I don't know what the point was. I was always under the impression that the point of AF micro adjustments was to correct for small misalignments between the image sensor and the AF sensor. But when the image sensor is the AF sensor, well I don't think there's any point any more.

This software is probably on sale because it's quickly going obsolete.

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Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking....that this item may be going obsolete in the near future...

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