EF, RF, Trolls and Children

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I tend to agree with you.... in the long term, the M mount and the RF mount...

Tiny crop cameras, M mount.... no question about it....
Smaller FF cameras, definitely the RF mount.....
Larger FF cameras, over time I think more and more will transit to RF mount, but there may still remain a few EF mount cameras, even in 10 years time....

The interesting possibility that I have been pondering for quite some time is, is the crop rebel going to be replaced by the FF rebel? If you imagine an R mount crop camera, what does it really take to make it a FF camera? All you have to do is replace the sensor.... all the other electronics remains the same.... Now wouldn't that bust the bargain camera marketplace wide open :)

Yes, will be interesting if the future will contain more 'larger' M mount, OR - yes as you suggest "a crop sensored R Mount".
That the EOS R camera came out with the ability to use EF-S lenses (via the adapter) was something I did not expect...
But it actually has me excited it can. Particularly as I have a few EF-S lenses I love, and would serve well for photography (albeit at 12MP), as well as the current 4K video crop.

So I do appreciate, that Canon may have looked at the option of placing a APS-C sensor in an R mount mirrorless camera body. If that's the 7D, or a 'Rebel FF' (or both) - remains to be seen.

Cheers,

PJ
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Your take on the second Canon EOS R body

I get the feeling that the body design is pretty much set in stone for any other variants.
I was very dubious about that touch slider control in bad cold/wet weather, gloved hands? No way Canon didn't consider that though.
On reflection I wouldn't go wishing for those old controls back too soon until you try the new layout.
Some very good points.
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ICYMI: Nikon Announces The Crazy P1000 Compact With 3000mm Equivalent 125x Zoom

I got to play with a P1000 yesterday for a few minutes. It's huge, about the size of a 5DIV + Tamron 100-400mm. As the reviews so far are intimating, it's very difficult to use at 3000mm without a tripod or a rest. I checked out the resolution on a chart at a variety of focal lengths and compared with a 400mm DO II on a 5DSR and then on a 5DIV with TCs. As predicted, there is no increase in resolution on going from about 1500mm to 3000mm. In fact, it gets worse at 3000mm. I upresolved images to the size of the 3000mm one. 1600mm and 2000mm are better than 3000mm. 400mm on the 5DSR is better than 3000mm, and on the 5DIV with TCs, significantly better. The collage of upresolved images looks scrappy because the individual shots were taken 12m away from a tiny target at a size set to test the resolution in moderately shady conditions, and not designed to look pretty.
NikonP1000_Collage.jpg
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Panasonic-Leica-Sigma FF MILC development

Lens IS isn't a direct replacement for IBIS. In some cases it works better, in others it's not as effective. The best results get from combining both.

Canon color, especially for JPEG and video rendering, out of the box is great. But once you put your raw files into Lightroom you lose a lot of that benefit and the playing field is a lot more level. I frequently shoot with both Canon and Sony bodies at the same time, and when files are put into Lightroom and processed the color rendering is pretty much identical.
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Lots of New mirrorless and DSLR cameras in the pipeline

Technological advancement normally comes with some penalties relating to power usage. Compare modern smartphones to pre-smartphones that would work great for a week or more on a single charge.

How often did you have to change the battery in your 35mm film SLR?

WIth mirrorless you're going to get shorter battery life than a DSLR for the same capacity battery. That's pretty much unavoidable. With a 128GB or 256GB card I find however much I shoot I'm pretty much not going to fill up the card in one day, even with full-size raw files at 50 megapixels.
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Shutter Life on a 5D Mark III

My understanding is that you are looking at ~$300 for a new shutter. So, I am not sure I would be all that concerned. Just bare in mind, you may have to pay a few hundred down the road.
So if it is $300 for a new shutter, I would at least take this number in addition to the normal street price for a used 5D3.
In Germany one would get a used 5D3 for 1000 - 1300 €, partly from retailers (incl. VAT), so with some reduced warranty.
So the mentioned $1000 with this number of clicks seems too high for me.
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Has anyone used third party lenses on an EOS R yet?

Hy all
Regarding this aspect i see only one video made by Tony & Chelsea about Canon R
Here is the video.
He use Sigma 18-35 f1.8 art for 4k video.
Watch the video...he explain that the camera enter in auto mod crop attaching the ef-s lens.
The quality of the video is very very good with the sigma art.
I think 4k on canon R is more or less a super35...not bad at all.
Beeing able to use fast lenses such as sigma art 14mm f1. 8 or canon 20mm f2.8 or 28mm f1.8 it is very good.
Hope it helps
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Canon R with EF-S lens?

Here are some typical lens ID codes. If there is no matching code in the camera, it will not know which lens is mounted. For example, tag 183 is for a Canon 100-400mm L. Several 3rd party lenses also send tag 183 to the camera. I don't know if they add the suffix (183.1, 183.2, etc)

EXIF Lens Tags for Canon

Ok, interesting reading - the suffix isn't sent between the camera and the lens, only the code as an integer value. Also it's interesting to see variation between the metadata saved by different camera models. Some (eg the 500D) save the lens name within the metadata, others (eg the 80D) don't only saving the lens code.

It must be quite a difficult task for Lightroom etc to accurately identify which lens was being used (Canon or Sigma) if both share the same code ID. This is a big deal when it comes to ensuring the right automatic lens corrections are applied.
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Specifications for the 5 upcoming Sigma lenses have leaked

We don't know this yet, but, probably so.
It'll be an "S" lens, and therefore quite expensive. As such I can't see it being appealing to beginners who want to cover the focal length range. I can't see this appealing to pros shooting sports. Who, then, will buy this lens? Videographers maybe?

I can see that it will appeal to wildlife scientists. I have zoologist friends who bought Canon 28-300 L, and you also have BBC order this from Canon:https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...8c001_cine_servo_50_1000mm_t5_0_8_9_with.html
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Galapagos questions

Cheers tron. Wasn't really a question re gear. I am going with 2 bodies, a 10-20, 24-70, 70-200 2.8 with 2x converter if needed plus a couple of backup kit lenses in case anything goes pear shaped. All advice i have recieved is that distance is not much of an issue in the Galapagos. I was more asking if anyone had been and knew of possible subjects that are less well known. Something i might want to think about shooting.
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Sigma to announce 5 new lenses shortly, including a new 70-200mm f/2.8 OS Sport & 60-600mm f/4.5-6.3 OS Sport

I will be interested in what improvements the 60-600 has over the current sports and contemporary lenses. After reading reviews that consistently indicated there was minimal difference in image quality between the sport and contemporary, I bought the contemporary for price and weight savings. Generally, I prefer the 100-400 with a 1.4 extender, but have certainly found the Sigma worth owning and under certain conditions preferable.

For me, the weight is a critical factor. I use both the 100-400 Canon and 150-600 Sigma with a monopod because at my age, hand holding gets difficult after awhile. Lugging heavier lenses around is not something I enjoy, especially at sporting events like track, where I have to race from one event to another. Point being, I would rate sharpness and focusing speed as most important, but weight can make a lens a non-starter for me if alternatives are available.
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Why no APS-C "Holy Trinity"?

It's been half a year since you wrote this, but I came to see it your way. I got a used 80D and 18-135 USM around the end of June. Weather seals, battery, and AFMA won me over. I'm pretty happy with that pair for most of my uses. The 18-135 is surprisingly nice for semi-macro shots. A Tokina 11-20 f/2.8 and Canon 55-250 STM cover my wide and narrow specialty uses. A cheap Yongnuo 35 f/2 and the Canon 50 f/1.8 II cover when I want narrower depth of field or indoor shots.

I periodically daydream about getting a fancier macro, or portrait, or a 100-400 lens, but it's a hard sell for a budget rig. These are all "better" options, and they add up to about $1200+. Being patient with the limits of a $1700 kit is winning so far. Figuring out how to change lenses easier/faster will probably do me more good.
Cool, and congratulations!

I really like the combination of the 80D and 18-135 USM. Happy shooting!
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