The price on the 70-300 non-L is even more tempting now, as I see the normal prices are $650, but right now Amazon has it for $441.00.

I am in the same boat here, thinking about a 70-200 in some form or another, vs. getting a 70-300 non-L IS that will hold me for a while.

I have read reviews that say the non-L lens has surprizing IQ for the price (Ken Rockwell, and to a lesser extent, The Digital Picture), and so at $441.00 it is perhaps that much more compelling. I figure I could use it for a year or two and if I feel I am outgrowing it, I can always sell it used and recoup about all my money.

jangelo said:

I really enjoy taking super wide photo's and looking to upgrade from my canon 10-22. I've shot with lense and really loved what it produced with my 7D. But I want to do more, so I'm waiting for my 5D mk III and looking to Ugrade my wide angle lense. I am considering to new zeiss but the extra expense is streching me. I wanted some opinions from canon community, should I purchase Zeiss 15mm 2,8/15 or Canon EF14mm f2.8 II? No manual vs. auto focus.

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According to some preliminary reviews, the Ziess is slightly sharper and has less CA along the edges. It costs almost 50% more than Canon 14mm II and has no AF. The Ziess has an integrated hood, which makes using filters (i.e. grads) difficult.

The 16-35L II is like the FF version of the 10-22 on your 7D and should perform similarly to slightly better with a constant f/2.8. Both can take filters in the front. The 14II is a wider prime that has less distortion than the 16-35L II that is equivalent to 9mm on the 7D. If you're happy with the 10-22 on the 7D, I suggest looking at the 16-35L II first. The Canon 14mm and Ziess 15mm primes are specialty lenses.

mrmarks said:

Thanks! These are the best real life high-ISO raw samples I have seen. Could you post some low-ISO raw samples as well?

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No problem, started a new thread for the low ISO samples:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,4778.0.html

If there's something else people would like shots of or tests of let me know and I'll try to get them up. Also if you'd like JPGs of them from the shipped Canon DPP I can do that too.

I upgraded from a T3i to a 5DM3. I do not regret my decision, even for a split second.

Hey all, i'm not sure if there is another forum to post about this sort of thing, but....

Any idea how long before we see a follow up to the Canon XF300 camcorder? I'm in the situation where i'm really looking for a new camera for video. The C300 is out of my price range, the XF300 is a couple years old, and i think shooting with the current EOS DSLR cameras doesn't sound like a great time. I'm waiting for NAB to see if there's anything else on the horizon that's built mainly for video. Of course, people seem to be waiting for the 4k Cinema DSLR.

Well, i'm hoping for either a simplified version of the C300, or... a new traditional camcorder with a slightly larger image sensor than the XF300 had (1/3"). I'm just not sure how often they refresh the semi-pro camcorder line!

Any idea when they might introduce a XF300 successor? Any clues that point to a "C100?" Guesses?

Im maybe a little odd. But i need the autofokus on wide angles. Also need it on Fisheye Lenses. So for me today if im not changing to Nikon is the EF 14 mm f.2,8L mk II thats closest to my heart

takoman46 said:

I personally like the smell test and the wind tunnel lol

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+1

I Just realized today I need faster cards to handle the higher data rate in video when using the All-I compression method or this will happen.



I guess sometimes it pays to read the instruction book first. The good news though is that the videos aren't corrupted. They just won't play on the camera. I don't think I'll be using those cards again though for video.

For All-I, you need 30 MB/sec or faster with a CF card and 20MB/sec or faster with an SD card.

When you turn the camera on with an HDMI cable plugged in, the rear LCD stays illuminated but black. If you turn the camera on, and then plug into HDMI... the rear LCD will shut off completely.

Here is hoping for a firmware update. :-(

Understand the frustration here. Felt the same around the launch as I though 5D3 would cater more for video than photo. Now it seems clearer and clearer that the 5D3 brilliantly continues with the idea of the 5D2, that is a still camera that can do video. Hence the naming 3 instead of X I guess. Happiness of one is the misfortune of others. Well, sort of as I am probably not the only one around happy with a much improved still-camera-that-can-do-video. I'll grab one as soon as available in my country. Our videographers friends will probably have to wait a little bit longer for the gear of their dream. Should not take long anyway.

peederj said:

To be quite honest with you, what matters is the subjective viewer experience, and to my own eyes the Panasonics including the GH2 look like Camcorder video and the 5D2 and 5D3 look like moving SLR photographs. Which is vastly preferable to my tastes. Pixel peepers get out.

And remember, the whole problem with Camcorder video was it was over sharpened. Sharpness is no always what you want subjectively...and even when you do, what you usually want is a steep gradient of sharpness which a full frame sensor is much more able to provide than a dinky m43 sensor ever could.

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Depends on what you do. Shallow dof is meaningless for a lot of shots. The GH2 is not sharpened, it is more detailed. Different things. According to eoshd, the 5d3 is not true 1080, more like upscaled 720. The gh2 is true 1080. You can always soften video. But once resolution is gone, it us gone.

Something is weird. Got tracking # this morning, but UPS did not pick it up. The order status on their webpage still says "100% backordered", and not shipped. Suspect.

I snapped a series of shots today while waiting for my engagement session to arrive, going from ISO 800 to 25600. These obviously aren't awesome test shots, just wanted to send out some samples for you all to pore over. I chose this spot because of the dark black vs white. I converted these to .DNG because Lightroom doesn't support the .CR2's quite yet, saved you the trouble.

http://www.miamiphotographer.net/test/CR0C0026.dng
http://www.miamiphotographer.net/test/CR0C0027.dng
http://www.miamiphotographer.net/test/CR0C0028.dng
http://www.miamiphotographer.net/test/CR0C0029.dng
http://www.miamiphotographer.net/test/CR0C0030.dng
http://www.miamiphotographer.net/test/CR0C0031.dng

I've been playing with images from the first samples available, the blacks are really locked down. For High ISO's that looks good.

My 5D III will arrive next Tuesday evening and I'll get to see for myself.

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V8Beast said:

Another set of flat, lifeless D800 images. Where's the color and contrast?

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They are reserving it for the D900

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Good one!

I just tested it with flash and 1/60th 200 iso F10 looked the same as 1/60th 200iso F1.2 as far as exposure, wow!! Another thing i am noticing is for some reason every lens i have is dead on tack sharp. Call it luck call it 5d magic, i dont care! My original 5d always did better than and other camera with flash too but this one is sick!

ukasheq said:

Thanks There is one thing i'm interested with... You see, previously i used camcorder with AF. 600d doesnt have continous AF all the time... It's ok, manual focusing is great i really like it, for professional video it's perfect (great control), but sometimes there is fast action which i need to capture (let's say unexcpected event ), and for that non professional videos AF is useful (rumor is that T4i will have AF video all the time) the question is... Can you really fast get desired sharpness using Manual focus in that "fast action situations" ? Thanks dude

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Fast AF during recording for DSLR will depend on the focus speed of the lens used, a USM lens would be a good quick focusing lens. My main concern with AF during recording would be accuracy & speed when moving to a subject you need to focus on, I would defiantly stick with manual focus when doing video. Practice with your lens of choice for more accurate focus pulls. Get yourself a 15mm rig and throw a follow focus on it, they have manual ones and USB control focus that hooks directly to the camera (Okii Follow Focus). My partner has one of these and its perfect, here is a video review on it:

Okii Follow Focus Product review from wollwerthfilms.com by Stephen Wollwerth
You purchase it here: http://www.okii.net/product_p/ct-001.htm

I myself use a D|Focus from Jag35, there are better ones out there but the price tags are very high! I believe I paid $139.00 for mine, I know you said your on a Budget (most of us are)

Link to D|Focus: http://jag35.com/products/followfocus/dfocuskit.html

I wish you the best of luck on your journey into DSLR video, If you have anything else to ask feel free to hit me up.

TexPhoto said:

$1300 is a great price, if it's in good shape. i sold my 3 year old 160K actuation 5D III for $1650.

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Well I sold my ten year old 5d IV for $3000 so I win the time travelling wars.

But I *do* use AF to get me started in video and I do use this technique with the MkII.

I see you also have the MkIII and the 85. Does it work for you? It'd be really helpful to know whether I am missing a trick.

Cheers
Ash

lexonio said:

Hello happy MK III owners, I'll be joining you soon among other happy folk I currently have the 24-105L, and I was thinking of buying 70-200 f/4 or f/2.8. However with ISO improvements in the latest 5D, I was windering if it's possible to get away with using f/4 and still getting workable images? Not taking bokeh and DoF into account?
Thank you in advance for your replies!

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It was workable with the 5DMkII - and that's why it's a kit lens!
Go and try one - in the conditions you'll want to use them. The main improvement it seems is from 1600-128,000 - the 5DMkIII is an improvement on the MkII. They're pretty close at lower ISO. But you could just bump up the ISO a stop, and go for the f/4.

Your main issue might be the difference in focal points f2/8 vs f4 on the MkIII.

Triad Japan, announced their Canon C300 EF to PL Mount conversion kit, which will be shown at the forthcoming NAB show at the Alphatron booth C10.242 The kit will include lens as well as rod support.
First pictures can be seen at www.alphatron.tv

Re: 5D Mark III samples from iso 100 to 102,400! UPDATE Raw to jpg hi-iso conversion

CanonCameraFan said:

Those RAW to JPEG conversions really make me want this camera. Maybe if I mortgage the husband, my grandma and, quite possibly, the cat, I might be able to afford it.... :

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I know right!

awinphoto said:

alipaulphotography said:

Jerrad245 said:

lol, agreed, anyways anyone have any information pertaining to the silent shutter mode?

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In the same position. I'd like to use it all the time if there is no disadvantage other than fps. 3fps is plenty for me. I'm single shot most of the time. Street/wedding photography.

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For what it's worth, I saw in some video review that if you put the 5d3 in LV, it does the silent shoot but also does it at 6FPS. It's just when you're shooting viewfinder you drop to 3FPS.

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I think that's because of the mirror lock up in live view. Silent shooting dampens the mirror slap sound so I guess it naturally reduces the fps. In live view, the micro locks up and the sensor electronically controls the exposure versus the blinds opening and closing when the mirror swings up and down.

Thanks.

That's the idea. I don't want to be dpreview at one end, and engadget on the other.
These cameras are tools for use. I don't think mechanics fetishize ratchet sets like we do.
They buy a Snap-On set and start fixing cars.

Any suggestions for UK folk with new kit?