I downloaded the one with just the fruit stand and converted to tiff, and Dng as well as opening the cr2 in lightroom. The image was sharply focused on the back row of grapes and the green ones in front were out of focus a bit.

As expected, the histogram was shifted to the left. I raised the exposire slightly and did not see any noise.

I guess I'll look at some of the other images to see if they are back focused as well.

Would check some swiss shops, like e.g. www.digitec.ch as their prices do get pretty close to US prices .... much cheaper as other european shops

And it's sold out...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-II-21.1MP-Full-Frame-CMOS-Digital-SLR-Camera-%28Body-Only%29/290682183871?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267&_trksid=p1468660.m2000036

Excellent price for those who are interested, limited supply, probably won't last long...

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mauro.canon said:

here, full size, full jpg

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nobody cares about jpegs

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You're going convert them to Jpegs anyway when you get your photos printed

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But there is a huuuuge huge diffrence between what I do with RAW->JPEG than JPEG directly from body ;D

ah, fair point. I haven't had much use of lenses heavier than 700g, but I can imagine what you mean. Reminds me I need to buy some new batteries, I have 2 of them that last no more than 200 shots each these days. Ack.

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wamsankas said:

briansquibb said:

Why use SDHC cards when you can get supercharged CF cards?

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because they are super expensive compared to SD and gotta load up both slots with solid SPEED

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Dont see why? the slower SDHC can can be used for video + jpeg and CF for RAW. Nobody is moaning from the 7D club - and their requirement is the same as the 5DIII

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right but 7D doesnt have the SD option. I would rather pay 70$ for a 16gb 95mbps SD card compared to a 120$ 16gb 90mbps CF card. that is if canon allowed for those 95mbps to be used

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Quite simply 90mbps is overkill for a 5DIII. I am using a 30mpbs for my 5D4 and I get the expected number of images before buffer full. I haven't noticed an issue with buffer write delays.

I suggest you size up your priorities, and budget. How critical is equipment to your photographic needs. ? Is your current gear limiting what you can do ? Are you willing to switch brands and all your cameras and lenses every time new technology is released ? What are the key features you require ?
I know photgraphers who use very high-end gear and shoot crappy pictures. Others use modest gear with extraordinary results.
The anticipation and release of the 5 D MKlll has been very interesting especially with comparisons to the new Nikon. It reminds me of the guy who makes a lot of money at work and is really happy until he finds out a co-worker earns a little more.
I ordered 2 5D MK lll bodies, and I believe the up-grades from the MK ll and added features are worth the money.
If anything sucks it's that I have to wait a few more days to get them.

A company that lets things leak is banned from doing business with Canon again. That contractor putting up the Canon pavillion in Singapore where a employee or outsider slipped in and took pictures said that Canon would never hire him again. The employee likely lost his job as well.

Even DPR was penalized severely about 10 years ago when they accidentally revealed a Canon 1 Series body early. Only recently have they started getting early samples of 1 series bodies to pre-view.
Fail to keep Canon's rules and you don't get future business.

Maybe the focus was not the complete issue , maybe ISO's were different and thus making the aperture different as well - narrowing the depth of field.

After having pre-ordered a 5D Mark III and searching through Amazon for the accessories, Amazon decided to make the Nikon D800 one of my gold box quick pick deals (taking an additional $150 off). This was a final straw for me. After comparing the raw samples at 25600 and noticing poorer color reproduction in shadows for the 5D Mark III (greens & purples, as if it lacked anti-aliasing), I was already a little apprehensive. Nikon's uncompressed HDMI out and built-in AF assist are also super-cool. I cancelled my 5D Mark III pre-order and nabbed the D800, slated for arrival on the 21st for me. This means selling a 24-70mm F2.8L and a Sigma 12-24mm EX for me—really no biggie. It feels a little dirty, but maybe I'll be on this forum around the same time next year looking to switch back to Canon.

Just thought I would add to lens inquiries having just come home from Sedona/Flagstaff/Grand Canyon trip. I have a 60D and found I used my EFS 10-22 way more than my EFS 15-85. And the 70-300L only came out for birds. I thought that my 15-85 would be the most used but it sat in my bag more than the other two. Even with the 10-22, I found I did several portrait-orientation panoramas using anywhere from 5-10 photos for the stitching. Just my $.02.
Diane

Flake said:

Ermmm Might be a silly question but did you get permission to copy these shots onto someone elses web site??

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I linked to the original article/owner at the top of post, didn't want to hotlink the photos so used a host and never did I take credit.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

There have been upgrade rumors for about 6 or 7 years now. You should not make buy-sell decisions based on rumors. You also might be aware that the value of your lens won't drop, because any new one, if it happens, will cost 2X the price of the old model.

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True enough. I've been holding off buying the 100-400 for the new one, and it's been years. No problem really, I've plenty to keep me busy with my present lenses, but it would have been a mistake not to buy the old one if I had really needed it.

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Viggo said:

You'll find that choosing between 45 or more points makes your compositions waaay better also.

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@all: Thanks for your input so far... but @ viggo: I don't understand why I'd need 45 af points for, except for tracking moving objects. But for static objects, I'm fine selecting one of the 60d's outer af points and then recomposing a litte - worked fine so far for me, even with fast lenses (50/1.8 and 100/2.8). Usually, I'm mapping the af point not to the shutter, so I only af once and shoot many.

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It's a lot of times where you can't recompose, aka, at any moving subject, or VERY shallow dof, I use only fast primes, and recompose is not an option. Plus on a 60d compared to a FF camera you have a wider spread of AF points and more dof.

It's still a great camera if you don't care about shooting at ISO higher than 400. I have a 40D and 5D2 and I kept my 1DMKII solely because its autofocus still runs circles around my other bodies.

Now that the 5D3 has pro AF, I have put my 40D and 1D2 up for auction on eBay.

Here is the link to the 1D2 auction on ebay if you decide to pursue it:

http://bit.ly/z7pOjF

Start by renting / borrowing the Canon 200/2 lens. You loved it on the Nikon, now see what it does on your 5dII.

Then check out the new 24mm and 28mm 2.8IS lenses if you can wait for June - or later - it may be just want you need for indoor shots.

More clarity - as I said I'm not obsessive, and I don't feel I need more pixels, but that I would use more pixels. If more pixels were to come along, I'd enjoy the upgrade. I don't go out of ISO100 much, I'll usually flash first and get more control. More frames per second? I barely use one enough. But more pixels means more crop flexibility, more beautiful detail, better landscapes, more to experiment with ... Canon's upgrade path is for the sports crowd (frames, ISO and speed) which isn't something that matters much to me.

I remember watching the whole drama the first time digital broke 1 megapixel. I didn't buy though. I waited until the FIRST rebel, which I bought along with some nice glass at a crazy rebate they had back then (I got a fishy, 24-70 and 50 1.4). Then my next camera was the 5DMKII because I felt that finally the price of full frame came down to the point where mere mortals could afford it.

Now I'm shooting like crazy. Back in the film days I had an AE-1, and the cost of development kept me from shooting very much. Man I hated that ... and the long turn around. But now I have more money, and the technology is getting seriously wonderful, so I am putting more into getting the glass, pixels, and extras.

And because of this I'm taking tens of tens of thousands of shots - most of them bad - but you know this body is getting some serious work. Will it be getting pretty worn out in a few years? If so, I'd rather upgrade rather than send it in to get a new shutter, etc. So I don't lament the upgrade cycle on digital - the day to day cost is so much lower than film, who cares?

Oh, and I should add one more thing, one thing I hate about the 5DMKII is the crummy focusing system. I have a lot of shots that could have been great, if it wasn't focused on the wrong thing. I'm working on improving my technique to get better at this, but I would love a better camera. Sure, the III has the system I want, but it's not enough, for the price, to entice me.

Having the 24-105mm makes moving to full frame easier for you. The 24mm end on full frame is wider than your 18mm on your Rebel, and your 50mm prime will be more useful on FF. I would also suggest the 5DII over the 5DIII if your budget is limited. Try the 5DII with your 24-105L first, and then decide what your next lens purchase should be, whether it be on the wide side (16-35 or 17-40), another fast prime (35 or 85) or on the telephoto side (70-200 or 70-300). The 1300+ USD that you'd save by choosing the II over the III can be better used for another lens, once you decide focal range you'd like to invest in.

When my 5D MK III actually arrives, I'll decide what I like best, I long ago learned not to like paper specifications. I do expect to make good use of the new features.

Why should you switch system everytime a new camera from another brand seems to be better ?????

For me it's not only the DSLR that counts.

The 5D Mark III seems to be a nice camera, but also the Nikon D800 seems to be a nice camera.
And yes maybe the Nikon is better, but will you ever see the difference in the final product ?

I stick with Canon for one simple reason .......it works fine for me
I stick with Canon for one simple reason .......I love some of there lenses.

Hmm.. Already two reasons.....

@solarpos,

I have a very similar setup to you. I mainly shoot with my 7D, but then picked up an EOS 3 used for $200USD about a year ago! It's an amazing camera. I hadn't shot film in about 10 years since that. I think it's amazing to go back to film now after working with digital for years. The beauty of digital is the ability to experiment more with exposures and see immediate results. I feel like I have learned so much with digital, and can now use that skill to have more consistent success with film.

It is great to use both as it makes you feel like you have 2x as many lenses! Also, choosing different films and working within it's boundaries really brings out the creativity

I then recently picked up a few used cheap AI-s Nikon lenses to use on my 7D for video... So then I thought, "why not get a nice used manual focus Nikon to play around with THESE lenses too!"

So I bought a mint Nikon F3! Beautiful pro (for it's time) camera.

It's a great time to work film back into your photography kit because the gear was made to last and it is so affordable now!

I just recently bought a Mamiya 645 camera kit with an 80mm f/2.8 lens brand (like)new in the box for $500 USD.


So I guess I missed the memo about Canon vs Nikon, digital vs film and 35mm vs 120... because, why not use all?!

Thanks for the suggestion. I've found numerous articles. Will give it a try this week and see how it goes. Thanks again.

Others have given you good advice, so here is a niche point. Last summer, I bought a Singh-Ray Vari-Neutral Density filter--you can rotate if , which allows you 2 to 8 stops of neutral density. It by far is the best filter/accessory I ever have bought. This winter I have been taking photographs of "seascapes" and urban street scenes (but not street photography). It really allows you to create some amazing photographs. I started with one ND filter that was coated to achieve 4 stops of ND, but being able to increase or decrease the stops with one filter really is the only way to go. It is expensive (around $350 US0, but it is a great tool. I bought the 77mm, which works with 2 of my Canon lenses. http://www.singh-ray.com/varind.html. I've already gotten way more that $350 of value out the Singh-Ray filter (and I am not talking about sales--I photograph for fun).

I've had the 5D Mark II in Greece in the summer and India (dust and heat even in November). I also did the New York City Annual Halloween parade in the pouring rain using a plastic cover (probably foolish). Never had a weather problem with the 5D.

As an aside, your problem (timing) is one reason I have two regular camera dealers rather than buying all my equipment mail order based on price alone. I suspect that a dealer might find a way to help you out in this pinch with a loaner, cheap rental, or even getting you to the head of a list. That's not to say you don't have a dealer or that you are "bad" if you don't. It is a reminder to everyone that sometimes paying rock bottom is false economy in the long run. Service still counts for something.

Have fun.

Jack Siegel

caruser said:

Viggo said:

If the difference between the 18 mp 1d X and the 5d 3 is nothing, why didn't they keep the 5d3 at 18 also? I'm DEF not a mp-guy, I'm just wondering. Is it to make the noise levels separate of the two?

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Wasn't there something about the 5D3's horizontal resolution being 1920 * 3 which helps clean video?

So you could ask the other way around, why doesn't the 1DX have the same 22 MPs ;-)

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Good point. My guess is that a few mp's have a lot to do with noise, they can't double the res and still have two stops cleaner anymore, so every mp steals away from the size of the pixels, making even a small increase of mp shows more noise.

I'll think I'll be quite happy with 18. I was very happy with 16 on the mk4. Printed 60x40 cm recently, one of each of my kids, one shot at 10 mp 1d mkIII and the other 1d mkIV at 16, they looked like they were shot at the same res.

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00Q said:

Right, so....Ive discovered that I have been smited like hell....in the same way mosquitos sting you if you walk out into the forest at night. ...

I guess the people who smite me are those who feel insulted because I have not recommended their lenses or bodies in my replies to other people's posts. People smite you because they can't stand their lenses being "unrecommended". Most of the time, thats the only lenses they have and they take it too personally....also I've found that some people can't stand it when others says something negative about Canon.

On this site, by giving your opinion = smite

so.....since I have 120+ smites and only 30+ thumbs up, I cant careless about my reputation, so people go on smite me! Your lenses can be S___. Canon can sometimes be S___. And your camera bodies are probably need an upgrade.

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You are so right. I joined this forum a few weeks ago as a retired photography instructor, with the beautiful idea of helping others for free with any and all photography questions--hence, my chosen name "helpful."

But as soon as I had started posting some images to use as examples of depth of field, white balance, etc., I started collecting an negative karma out of no where. I decided to devote my time to people who might actually want it. I deleted nearly all my posts, and all my images--why share my work at site and get smites when the same photos have won me photo of the year awards and publication in the Tribune, etc.

I am still willing to help anyone who actually wants it. Don't hesitate to ask me anything about photography.

Now watch my smites add up!

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don't worry matey

I'm celebrating my 100th smite today ! I try to help out as much as possible other who are very helpful round here have a boatload of smites too, its just par for the course