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I would second or third getting a dedicated video camera ( the prices are really reasonable now) designed for the purpose and shoot the baby pics with the existing DSLR. You will find plenty other things to spend on with that Baby on Board.

Re: 5D3 or 5D2.1, please compare old vs. new model (real life)

Thanks Tijn, this is exactly right: REAL LIFE is what the question is. We all know the specs by heart now. Thanks to the other posters too: even the simple repetition of specs gives the poster an exciting twitch, I agree, BUT I wanted to ask some of the early adopters and users from today and this coming week to do a sober real life comparison: most of the early adopters here have been using a 5D2 to 100% of what it delivers and know what they miss as well as what they love about it. They are my target here. So, again, the Usability and practicability of the new specs is the issue. On paper all is fine, 3.6K are OK(well, erhh)
NOW, THIS WEEK, THE REALLY EXCITING POSTS START : please make your first impressions as objective as possible.

Ever PDF I've gotten from Canon for the last 5 years have said copy. Just ignore it.

APBPhoto said:

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Photography is my second job until I retire from the tech world.
I shoot in the studio (portfolios, portraits, fine art nudes), in the field ( urban decay, cityscapes and landscapes) and macros.
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Hey APBPhoto,
Do you have any work online? I'm genuinely interested to see your portfolio.
All the best,
CG

thanks for the feed backs so far guys.

how did you get the shutter count on ur rebel?

vbi said:

Waiting to use my 7D in anger over Easter when I go to Botswana. Calibrated my 100-400L and now I am just waiting. Oh man...the anticipation is killing me.

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That's so exciting! Please share the photos when you return!

please let me know if 5d III will be available in stores in Singapore

kirispupis said:

It is true that sharpness and optics-wise the IS and non-IS versions are almost identical. However the IS, IMHO, completely sets this lens apart. It allows you to shoot at shutter speeds otherwise unthinkable in macro.

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While this is often debated, I'm confident to say: no, it does not! The effect of the IS decreases when the magnification increases, until it is almost negligible at 1:1. You cannot expect to get 4 stops of improvement with macro and IS.

The reason to get the 100L is a) better dust/sand resistance due to weather sealing, b) dual-use as a portrait lens, c) hybrid IS at non-macro distances which can eliminate some shake when coupled with a good (i.e. 7D) servo af.

If one often shoots with a tripod (this is very often the case w/ macro, and of course focus stacking) or at real close macro distances, I'd advice for anyone on a budget to get a much cheaper non-L version and put the remaining money in another good lens - other L primes are sharper than the macros esp. at open aperture.

polandspringuy said:

Thank you for all the suggestions so far. I believe I am now leaning towards the 5DIII for the type of shooting that I do.

neuroanatomist - Glad to hear actual facts regarding the AF, rather than generic statements I've read elsewhere like "AF sucks". I do have a S95 that I take on vacations. Great tip about the kit lens, which I wasn't considering before.

briansquibb - I don't think I would ever carry around two bodies and feel like there would be situations where I wish I had the 7D instead of 5DII or vice versa. So, another vote for 1 body.

vbi/tuankid - I realize I am losing reach so I'm now considering the kit lens to possibly go with the 5DIII. I'm reading the mkIII is up to one stop better than the mkII in terms of low light performance but how many more stops is it over the 7D? Will there be a noticeable difference between shooting mkIII@F4 and [email protected]?

I think the one thing holding me back now about dumping the 7D is the F1 coming to NY in 2013. But by then maybe I'll be in the market for the 7D mark II...

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I was only suggesting the 5D3

Ricku said:

Whatever improvements they did, it does not include the sensor (dynamic range and image quality.)

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It does, just perhaps not as much as some people were hoping for...

Stephen Melvin said:

It is possible, but after the 1D Mk III AF debacle, I'll bet Canon has put everything into this AF unit.

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... except support for tele+extender shooters

WarStreet said:

If you are shooting sport requiring continuous shooting, what difference is going to make if the camera is a non sports one ?

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The 5DIII is not designed for lengthy high speed shooting. From a 500D a 7D might be a better upgrade.

this is at least the third thread about the price dropping... please refer to this thread:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,4036.0.html

looking great! when can i get one

niccyboy said:

I wonder when we will have them in Aus?

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I got told I get mine end of this week

Hi there!

I've got mkII version on a 5D2 and, well, here's a few galleries shot exclusively with this lens:

Major:

http://axlimaging.com.au/summerbass

and a few other minor galleries:

http://axlimaging.com.au/philk
http://axlimaging.com.au/earthfreqafterparty
http://axlimaging.com.au/digitalpunk
http://axlimaging.com.au/shenanigans

Ignore the fact that I'm using it in a situation for which it isn't intended (people) and for the fact that I've got no style. ;D Just have a look over to see what's practically possible.

It's not a sharp lens at all. F4.5 is pretty bad, f5.6 is better. Edges are crap but the middle is decent. It's a fun lens, but girls will hate you.

You can correct via PTLens - and that's great for the building shooters I guess. I'm not big on buildings and mountains.

I don't have any test shots to post at the moment (they are still on the camera) but I had a brief play with my 5DMkIII last night and what I can say unequivocally is that I was obtaining low light shots that would have been impossible with my 1DMkII without flash - and that was in intelligent auto mode with max ISO 12,800. The quality of the images on the back of the camera blew me away. Admittedly I didn't do any 'pixel peeping' but like I say, compared with my 1DMkII, well ... there's just no comparison! The only slight advantage I can see to the 1DMkII is the shooting speed, although at roughly 8 fps versus 6 fps even that doesn't seem to be such a huge difference on paper. I think the 5DMkIII will suit my needs very well for the forseeable future

Oh, and (much to my relief) the autofocus is astonishingly accurate right out of the box. With the 24-105 kit lens and absolutely NO micro adjustment, it was nailing focus spot on in semi darkness. Really happy with this ... particularly given that I've recently had to send my 1DMkII and a couple of lenses off to a Canon repair centre for AF calibration (there's no micro adjustment facility on the 1DMkII).

Of course, comparing with the 1DMkII (relatively old technology now) there was bound to be a sea change in IQ, which is why I'd be interested to know what 5DMkII users think of the MkIII when they have the opportunity to compare side by side (actual test shots).

JR said:

neuroanatomist said:

JR said:

...my credit card was fully charged with the full amount - ouch!

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Ouch, indeed. Unfortunately, that's B&H policy for international orders. For domestic, they just run the authorization for the amount, but don't actually charge the account until they ship.

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Yeah. I guess we all have to pay for it eventually right! I will just do it a bit sooner. Still this way for me compared to going to local shops. The only downfall would be in the very unlikely event of a return, it would make it akward since they would re-emburse on the same payment method wihich is the credit card, but by then that card will have been paid - but again, I dont plan on returning this beast unless it is defective...

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Also had the full amount taken of my cc which is fine, but the exchange rate hammered me Banks try and profit from anything they can... Authorisation went through on the 14th but the bank only took the money off 2 days later when the exchange rate was 30c higher. At least I am sure this beast will be worth every penny! ;D

Cheap third party batteries might only give you 70% of the performance of genuine batteries. But with such a big price difference, I've usually succumbed to their allure. I do a similar thing - use the Canon batteries as my preferred option and the third party one's as back-up. Its a system that works well for me.

I have a 5D2 and the 1D MK III was a second body. Mostly used for wildlife, but indoors in low light it did not do well at ISO 3200 and higher.

I think they pair well.

Hi,
I had try the TC 2x III on my EF 400mm F5.6 and it's a lot better than the older version. No Phase detection AF, but still can AF in live view... good for birds that not so active under good lighting.

Anyway, I think an old 300mm F2.8L IS or non IS or even 400mm F2.8L non-IS will be a good choice...

Have a nice day.

I'd go slow. Try your new camera and see what you like about your existing lenses, and what you are missing. Canon is not really good at ultra wide, and, while the 14mm is a good lens, its not fantastic, and it is expensive expensive. The TS-E 17mm is suburb. You might use your existing lenses and give the new Zeiss 15mm a look. I'm sure Lens Rentals will have it for rent after its available, so you will be able to try it out.

denisccote said:

What does the y-axis represent? Many Thanks

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It represents MTF (Modulation Transfer Function), which can be considered as another term for contrast. We often perceive contrast as sharpness, but there is a difference.

This link will help explain it.

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/lens-quality-mtf-resolution.htm

As noted, lenses will continue to outresolve sensors for quite a while. DPP will not supposedly help with diffraction, so that will also help with high mp sensors, at least when they get up to 200mp or so.

Higher resolution sensors do let you see lens flaws better, so, in that respect, better lenses will be in demand.

It won't be a big issue for a few years, and by then we will have a lot of new lenses.

Canon's weakest point is wide lenses, they are the most difficult to design. I've never been entirely happy with any of the Canon ultra wide lenses except my 15mm FE.