Suggestions on new Canon DSLR -- thinking 60D

Pix8ion said:
Now, here's my dilemma....as is usually the case....I'm on the brink of buyer's remorse as I read about the Nikon D3200 camera (yet again) -- mainly due to the 24MP sensor. I've begun to appreciate the articulating screen and "pinch to zoom" feature (which really is helpful for quick reviews of pics) on the T4i, but just wondering if the 18MP sensor on the T4i will give solid IQ compared to the D3200.

Can anyone help pull me away from the edge, so to speak, and alleviate my concerns?? I just don't want to be worrying that I should've gone over to Nikon.

Two things that should help

(1) megapixels don't matter that much.

The Nikon D700 is a 12 megapixel camera. Until recently (the release of the D800), it was a current model. By the way, it blows away any APS-C camera (despite the low megapixels)

(2) Sensors haven't improved substantially in the last 10 years or so (let alone in the few months since the T4i was available). Take a look at DxOMark measurements for different cameras and it quickly becomes apparent that sensor size more than anything else determines sensor performance. full frame > APS-C > micro 4/3 > 2/3 > 1/1.7" > 1/2.5". Sony might be able to produce a 24 megapixel 1/2.5" sensor but it's no match for a 12 megapixel Nikon D700 or even a 10 megapixel Canon 5DC.

That's why professional grade cameras are on 4 year release cycles. Until this year, Canon's 5DII and Nikon's D700, both 2008 cameras, were current models.
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Do you know any stores Canon 1dx in stock in US?

got my camera today and it is awesome, thanks again to Pearl. my pervious post was edited to remove the "spam" but it was just to let everyone interested to know where they could find one. I most likely would not have gotten mine for quite some time from BH, a shame since most of my gear is from them, but I am happy to have the camera now and it will be a small learning curve. this camera has a lot of goodies in it!!!
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5DM3 is not doing all I hoped...wanting to upgrade to 1DX

ideaworx said:
trentchau said:
I'm curious, why would you think B&H would take it back?

None the less what I'm curious about is what you were using before to do this type of photography.

I did not expect them too, I was just curious if there was anything that can be done :)

I was not doing this type of photography, I shot alot on the water, but it was during the day, and not fish, I used to shoot babes in bikinis (or less) and am just trying to settle into what I really enjoy (and what my wife approves, lol).

Thanks everyone so far for the feedback, really informative and helpful for sure.

Cheers,

Shane

Heh sounds like you need a specialized camera than. Orsome hot lights for auto focus assist :)
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Which Phottix RF trigger?

JerryKnight said:
According to the Pixel King specs, it is a full E-TTL II radio trigger system. If they work as advertised, it seems like a good system. Anyone own a set that can comment on their reliability/compatibility?

Edit: There are a few disturbing caveats on the bottom of that page....

17 Do not support flashes using mixed modes, such as E-TTL and M together
23 Transmitter‘s hot shoe is NOT used for flashgun

The other limitations on that list aren't a big deal (in my mind) but these are fairly limiting. #17 could be troublesome for studio settings, where you might want one or two flashes on manual power. I don't really understand #23. Why would the transmitter have a hot shoe if it cannot fire a flash? Could it mean something else? The page is clearly a bad English translation..

I like the Pixel systems. They have some limitations but work as advertised. For a cheap system, they do thier job well. The Knights could not be adjusted individually so you couldnt set different groups. The Kings see to have resolved that limitation. Not being able to do manual and ettl together is not unique to the Kings. I believe this is also true for the PocketWizards but I could be wrong.

It is odd that they put a hot shoe on the transmitter but it doesnt work. Maybe it was to keep manufacturing costs down since the reciever and transmitter use the same housing. Note that the Pixel systems are not yet compatible for TTL with the Canon 5DIII. The Kings are upgradable so they may be at some point. The Knights are not upgradable and not compatible. They work great with the 5DII however!
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Viewfinder vs LiveView on Manual Focus Lenses

Thanks Neuro! I understand that and have moved the AF point during LV. That is what I did in my 'test' and then x10 the LV to fine tune the focus.

The only thing that could be causing the soft image is that both my 'model' (yeah, she's hot) and I were on carpet and not a hard surface. I did use a wireless trigger but still... I'll try again and I'll also show the slight difference between the Zeiss lenses and Canon 85L on my next test.

Thanks guys.
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WHO NEED MIRRORLESS BODY - when you can pack 5D III + 16-35 II like this :))

EchoLocation said:
did you use the body? or just carry your gear around in pieces? if you did this where I lived(Chongqing, China), the camera would be filled with construction dust in about 15 minutes.

I used both body & lens while I was there. No dust, just rain rain and more rain :(

Dylan
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upgrading from XSi.. what to choose?

The t4i also features the full time video focusing like the "M", but I have heard it is still nothing great. If you really get into the video itch you will just focus manually. I was able to keep up with a snomobile water skipping at dusk with live view on my 60D with a 50mm F/1.8, so the depth of field was reletively thin. It becomes second nature pretty quick :-)
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Upgrading from 40D, advice

Drizzt321 said:
PacWest09 said:
Drizzt321 said:
The 5d2 has a lower FPS than the 40D, just something to watch out for for sports. As well, you'll have to use the center AF point for pretty much anything, especially AI Servo. Otherwise, I think the 5d2 would suite quite well, leaving aside the sporting events. If you can wait, it might make sense to wait until we get some of the other announcements rumored to be coming down the pipeline.

These are my thoughts exactly, Center AF in AI Servo is how I usually shoot anyways. 40D-MK2 is a drop in FPS and I do worry, but I shoot a lot less sports for work than I used to and it isn't what I ever do for my own really. I often find my most meaningful sports photos come from picking the shot instead of bursts anyways. (never hurts to have the full sequence of an athletes actions though)

How noticeable is a 2.1 second drop in frame rate? probably a lot when we are talking 4 or 6, it is 1/3 the amount..

*edit (I will enjoy being able to bump up my ISO for that shitty outdoor stadium lighting though)

True, you can probably go up to ISO3200, maybe a bit higher. That definitely will help shutter speeds. One other thing to consider is the crop-factor, you'll lose some 'length' from your 70-200.

And you probably will notice the difference in fps. I know I did when I got my 5d3 and put it on full H-burst mode. Not sure about the responsiveness in the shutter (time between button press and shutter opens) between 5d2 & 40D. I know it definitely got quite a bit better on the 5d3 though.
I was waiting for the 7D2 for a long time and then finally in April I got the 5D3. My previous was 300D so it was a BIG jump. I love it. However just as Drizzt321 says, you will miss the 1.6 multiplier. However, arithmetic ally when you crop the image by a factor of 1.6, you get a 13.75 mega pix image so you will be a bit ahead of your 40D... It may not look like that when you are framing though. At 6 fps I guess you should not miss too much. Everything else is gravy. There is high ISO, 61 AF points etc. etc. etc.

I would wait for the new FF announcement though.
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My 7D vs 40D test

I know its been awhile but Im going to post both Large jpegs from the 7d and 40d both shot same settings with 17-55 2.8 IS and at 2.8 wide open in case you are wondering. I dont know what I am doing when testing but heres to crops of the label. In the 7d you can actually see definition from the printer where as the 40d is smooth and doesnt show it.

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Packing list for trip of a lifetime

If I were going - I'd bring the longest glass I owned, for the birds and wildlife. I'd bring a 24-105 or similar, and I'd bring my 28/1.8 for whatever night time fast lens and/or wide use. And I'd bring one of my M4Ps, with a 35/2.0 and some film, as backup.

I travel much, hate to be burdened with gear.

Instead of trying to immerse my technology into my environment, with me behind it, I'd rather immerse myself into my environment, and use whatever I've got. Based on images I've got from the early 70's, when all I had was a match needle Nikkormat and a 50/2.0 lens... I can say - less is more, for me.
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Soccer

Actually, my previous camera was the 7D as well, and I must say, 8fps was missed! Certainly, 5D2 images are great...just a bit more elusive in fast action!

I switched to nature and landscape, hence the gear change from sports, and this was the first time I really noticed the difference. Even so, I was pleasantly surprised with the results from the shoot.
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1DX, 1D4, 5D3 outdoor church shots

Finally, very basic post-processing with spot-metering off the shadow side of the church. The 1D4 did a better job than the 3 in metering here, IMO. Again, very basic processing and if you are interested in the RAW files, please ask. I definitely, if I were shooting for real, would have chosen a different time of the day looking at the glare and purple fringing from the highlights. Maybe upwards of 2 hours later.

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Upgrade from my T3i Need Advice!!

I see you have the Sigma 18-50/2.8 in your equipment list, I've thought about that over the double-the-price Canon for my 40D + 60D. You happy with the Sigma's performance? I'm strictly a hobbyist, need a fast lens in that range - astrophotos, granddaughters and general mucking about.

Optically I really can't complain at all, really nice, good centre resolution throughout even wide open, I have the older non OS version without HSM which isn't all that fast or all that quiet (the EX DC Macro - the plain EX DC wasn't quite as nice) the macro is immensely usable, but because of the short length forces a closer working perspective.

I bought this particular lens for video, so AF speed didn't enter into the equation at all. I wouldn't be all that happy using this specific lens for sports, though it's no worse than the kit 18-55 IS I used before. My old 17-40 may have been a bit zippier, but I suspect it was actually just a bit quieter.

Heres the review from photozone (usually pretty reliable) on the successor lens, with HSM (though not FTM) and OS.

http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/531-sigma1750f28os?start=2
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