@wrack_of_lamb: thanks a lot for that! 12800 would be quite something. Looking forward to it then! Three days and counting...

Actionpix said:

And little off topic, but often seen wrong stated, crop compared to FF has a factor 2.6 and not 1.6 as you get 1.6 times more pixels in width and height as well. (crop pixel count x 1.6 x 1.6= 2.56 x crop pixel count for FF) 36MP FF thus translates to 14MP crop.

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In digital photography, a crop factor is related to the ratio of the dimensions of a camera's imaging area compared to a reference format; most often, this term is applied to digital cameras, relative to 35 mm film format as a reference. In the case of digital cameras, the imaging device would be a digital sensor. The most commonly used definition of crop factor is the ratio of a 35 mm frame's diagonal (43.3 mm) to the diagonal of the image sensor in question; that is, CF=diag35mm / diagsensor. Given the same 3:2 aspect ratio as 35mm's 36mm x 24mm area, this is equivalent to the ratio of heights or ratio of widths; the ratio of sensor areas is the square of the crop factor.

kingofsnake said:

Let's hope so, i am tired of waiting. Hope it will beat the Nikon D 7000. Or is that too much to ask?

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Not likely. The D5100 would be the closest Nikon competitor. It would be more reasonable to hope that the 60D replacement will be better than the D7000.

Another option is missing:
I dont have FF yet and want one but now it's clear that I'll be neither getting the Mk2 (ancient tech) nor the Mk3 (overpriced/feature lacking). No idea what to do now...

There's always something bigger and better coming down the road. Doesn't mean that we'll wind up using it though.
Cinerama was pretty cool... three 35mm cameras lined up to shoot simultaneously. There's still a theater in Seattle that can show those movies and it's pretty intense to see. BTW, this was created in the 1950's.

weird... this post says otherwise "Best HD video quality of any EOS camera": http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/02/5d-split-5d-x-5d-mark-iii-cr1/

decltype said:

I got a chance to play with one back in November (img). As others have pointed out, the vertical grip is integrated in the body.

I didn't check, but I assume the memory card slot was glued or otherwise made unusable. I took a picture at ISO 6400 and it looked very nice from what I could tell.

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Ditto and also had chance to play with any of the 60 odd canon lenses available from 8-15 fisheye to the supertele 600 /800mm lenses

Mt Spokane Photography said:

I've seen rumors saying their are two things:

1. the 10th generation of the EOS System. (How they count generations is beyond me, there are lots of theories)

2. The metger of the 7D and the 5D line into one body.

I expect we might see some more X's in the other categories if this is true. 10X, 100X, 1000X ??

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I think the first is referring to the 1D X. That was language Canon used in its announcement.

My thanks to all of you who have responded. Exactly the information I was looking for!

briansquibb said:

It would be interesting to see the ratio of 580EX/EXII's that have this problem

We start with 2 - failed
My EXII, 4 EX - no failure

So far

2 failed
5 no failure

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Not sure if you mean this has turned into an impromptu poll but I'll bite:

My two 580EXII's are both fine and I bought them in 2008.
In my little Strobist community here in Toronto I have not heard of any failures related to Canon flash either.

You can look at canonpricewatch.com for price graphs across all major retailers.

e.g., 5D Mark II

I think Eugene just has the "itch" to buy a new body. The logic behind rentals, waiting and lens upgrades aren't cooling the itch. Hey, that's ok too.

Pull...the...trigger..... You...know...you...want...to...

heres a link to the thread
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,2963.0.html

have fun going through all 28 pages or whatever it got up to
some pics at the front and some more at the end i think

If you don't use the 70-300 much, I'd suggest getting the 85L II. You could sell the 85mm f/1.8 (because it is redundant) for the 1.4x TC, which will mostly get you back to the 200mm at f/2.8 if you want to maintain some reach. The 70-200 f/2.8 II is a great lens, but with the 50L, 85L II and 135L, you'd have most of the 70-200's range covered. The 70-200 is more convenient, but if you're a prime guy (and it looks like you are) and don't mind swapping lenses, then the 85L II is a better choice.

I'm actually of the mind that for 7k i shouldn't have to tweak alot of settings to get the best performance out of an AF system. Perhaps i'm just silly. For some reason this makes me think of my friends and there love of Macs. They love how things just go, they don't have to figure anything out. While i'm a PC guy, I do see their point. But thats a road i don't want to go down. Anyway, that was my first post. been lurking, and have been presently surprised by the good natured attitude here. most places are filled with angry know it alls.

the one in the original post doesnt have anything in common with a steadicam merlin. its based around a 3 axis gimbal, the same as a high end steadicam.

the second one is a merlin clone, but im not sure where the "incredibly expensive" comment comes in. its only a few dollars more than the ez steady was, and less than half the price of the merlin, neither of which come close in performance to a traditional properly balanced gimbal setup.

the modular beam doesnt make it complicates. when you buy a system, generally youll just have the one. the extra beam is only to make it easy to change from a very light camera - like a goPro - to a very heavy one, such as a 5D. its not something youd be changing out often (though you could if you felt the need).

for reference, i designed the microsteady, so if you have any questions or critiques, feel free to ask.

Gimbal

oh, heres a teaser of the early prototype, which hasnt been posted yet on kickstarter:
http://microsteady.com/images/IMG_7020.JPG

this little guy (with a canon 5d moutned) had the DP of "House" drooling.

Its pretty hard to explain all I can say is go to a camera shop that sells 1D series cameras and look throught the view finder and you will understand. its a massive difference. even over the 5D2 the 1D VF is soooo much better.

Maybe a better question is "Do you need 4K resolution?" or "Are you willing to pay 2x or 4x for 4K?"
If Canon is just handing out 4k cameras than sure! Why not? But the reality is that we're going to have to pay for them and most of us don't really need them right now. What we do need is a better image at 1080p and a few more conveniences. I'd personally also like it to be affordable. The C300 sure looks nice, but it's out of the budget for most of what I shoot.

You could certainly buy a new one (grey market) in Hong Kong for slightly below 2K.

JerryFish said:

From the start, I must say that some heavy assumptions are being made in this analysis, and I do understand these shortcoming of my analysis, this must state that this is for speculation and fun ONLY.

Taking the price of the historical "big brother" of the 5D line, the 1Ds (due to FF) and determining the price index between them over three generations of cameras, one can estimate an index based price of the 5D. Due to the fact that the 1DX has an MSRP of $6800, and staying true to its historical index, the next gen 5D would be priced at $2714. This is assuming that no other factors are involved in pricing (features, tech, inflation, exchange rate, etc.).

If we strictly take into consideration the current price of the YEN vs. USD over time (as some on this forum are prognosticating), we can expect the price of the 5D3 to properly reflect the historical prices of the 5D (with respect to the 1Ds prices) at $4064 adjusting for ERs. This would be the MSRP IF Canon wanted to continue the exact margins/index as the last generation of 5D/1Ds.

HOWEVER, I repeatedly hear justifications for price increases of the 5DmkIII base on solely exchange rates. I believe that this is a misnomer and not the driving MSRP factor for canon due to the fact that the MSRP of the 1DX was set at $6800! The price of that camera went DOWN compared to its last generation even with a YEN increasing in value by 50%. I do understand that the 1DX is not a true offspring of the 1DsmkIII, but with the combination of the two lines and addition of new features to boot, I believe my point to still be valid.

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Almost the same comes from sth I wrote before:
"On US Canon website price of an old 24-70 I is set to 1399$ and price of 24-70 II - 2299$, 5dmk2 - 2499$. Is it expectable to see 5d3 for less than 3.5-4k$?"
My simpler calculations estimate price at 4106$, so 3999$.

kapanak said:

While we wait to get a sensor equivalent of that of the human eye,
shall we beg Canon for something like this in the meantime?

http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/23/2818815/nhk-ultra-hd-image-sensor

Why do we need photography again? Just turn it on, and choose your shots later ...

8192 × 4320 pixels at 120 frames per second ... Imagine this will be mainstream in 20 years ... O_O ...

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They didn't publish RAW from that so it doesn't count

I've owned both, and the mark I is well, OK. It is not real sharp in the corners, and the more you shift away from center, the more the corner shifts towards the center. Tilting was something I did not use much. If I was shooting a landscape and wanted the bushes and mountain in focus, I stopped down... I did shoot some cool tilt videos for that "miniature" effect.

On a crop camera this might be fine. on FF, i thought the results from my 24-105 shot at 24 (or 35, or...) then "fixed" in Photoshop to have straight lines, were just as sharp. If I was going to do that, why carry it?

The VII is decidedly better.

MTL-CPS_shooter said:

The 1Dx would apparently only be shipping as far as JULY!!!???

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Man I hope not... More than 1/2 a year after being announced... :S

Many of users here are wedding or other small photography business owners ( easy to understand why) but success of the 5D in my mind was due to all advanced amateurs on steroids of Flickr like sites and instant "fame" coming out of it, brave enough to invest $2500 in the new camera body.
If Canon is listening only to this type of forums it may just miss the real target, with its cheated high ISO JPEG performance.
Constant rising prices, especially being greedy in basic features, (trust me, they will soon appear in other product for huge premium that Canon is making space for) may be short sighted, and next 5D can end up as just another elitist toy in the hands of professionals only.
I am very advanced amateur with gallery exhibitions in the past and able to function as professional in pretty broad range of photography.
For me plan for the next 5D was to only use for landscape photography with super wide angle lens, no system required at all, and just like my daily landscape walk around Rebel will be replaced with Nex 7 camera as soon as super wide lens will be available, 5D can be replaced as easy for anything else that is more appealing.
For every other needs with other lenses in my cabinet there will always be something like 7D (I hope)
Anyway, I am in a niche of course but, I have spent many thousands of dollars in the past with Canon! One would wonder if we in the small niches are important enough for business.
Something tells me that we better be important, because in the end every single photographer represents some very particular small niche, and all those single lost niches can and will add up in to something potentially serious.

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BlueMixWhite said:

Even if it's a let down, i would say canon still have its advantages from their lens system. Try and compare with Nikon lenses, you will find that varities is low and the pricing it much higher. I guess if the spec od the new 5Dx is lower as compared to D800, you may also find it hard to switch if you look at the whole big picture.

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Agree that canon still has a few more unique lenses. None I consider essential for me though. I think Nikon's system is well stocked, and more importantly, continue to fill in gaps specially before the thai flood wrecked everybody's roadmap. Newer canon lenses such as the 24-70 and 70-200 have all been more expensive than their nikon twins. For me, they got all I'd need and a few lenses I wish I had in canon version so I don't feel held back at all by their lineup. The real reason I don't switch is because of the hassle and because I don't honestly care for what brand I advertise for free on my camera gear

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kapanak said:

I am partially disappointed in the lack of rumours regarding a 24-105 replacement.

I was hoping Canon would put their newest IS and improve the optics for a new 24-105 that would replace the older version.

I use my 24-105 ALL the time, except when I am using my 70-200 II. It is the most convenient zoom lens, and also great for video (prepares to get bricked).

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There's been nearly no news or rumors regarding the new 24/105mm II so I doubt we'll be seeing that soon.