Price of Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Telephoto Zoom Lens

gandhi said:
I have been tracking the price of Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Telephoto Zoom Lens for quite some time and it has never gone down $2299.
I want to get it but I am not in any hurry, did any one see the price lesser than $2299. Do you think during Christmas it might go down further?
Not sure where you live but at least in the states slickdeals.net is a good place if you're looking for deals on lenses. I have a tracker setup for Canon and get posts all the time. You obviously get a lot of other random stuff but there's some good deals in there too pretty regularly.
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Upgrading 40d

You can crop in post, but you'll lose a lot of your resolution.

You can crop APS-C photos in post as well, for even tighter framing, so regardless of post-cropping the APS-C sensor still has major advantages for telephoto shots.

Perhaps the one exception is the Nikon D800 with 36mp. Assuming you're using good glass, you can crop 36mp a long way, to the point where it is equivelant to an ~18mp APS-C sensor.
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New HDRs with MacBook Pro with Retina Display

nightbreath said:
So how are the screen colors? :) Are they better than on cinema display?

I previously owned the 27" iMac. To my knowledge, Apple uses the same display in the 27" cinema display. I've found that colors and contrast are more accurately represented on the retina display in the new MacBook Pro than on the iMac. The processing speed difference was also minimal so I sold my iMac.

I use the 5D Mark III. I took this shot with these shots with the 16-35mm f2.8 II Lens

Yes, the retina display is not what makes these photos look the way they do. I processed them with a tone mapping technique similar to Trey Ratcliff. So thanks for mentioning him! He's one of my photography idols :)
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How should I spend my cash?

Hi Thundermonkey.

I've never shot speeches on anything as wide as a 24-70, normally I use my 80-200 and that is perfect. The way I like to work is to have one camera on the speaker on a tripod, while I roam around getting CU's and reaction shots of the crowd with a monopod. I go back to the main camera between each speech to re-frame (for height differences) and to wait and see if they are going to be a 'roamer'. Once I'm moving around I still keep an eye on the speaker and if they look like they're going to move, I'll quickly run back to adjust the main camera. Sometimes (depending on if I have an extra shooter/more than 2 cameras with me) I'll also have a static medium shot of the bride & groom at their table which makes for a perfect back-up angle.

I think I'll probably get the 28mm & 85mm new as there don't seem to be many used ones floating around in Australia. The 70-200 and 17-55 I will probably buy used, but if I get good prices on the stuff I'm selling I might get those brand new as well.
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Help Choosing My Next Lens? :)

samueljay said:
Just for a bit of fun, I thought I'd ask around to see what people would recommend as my next lens. You can see the lenses I currently own below :) I was going to get the 85mm ƒ/1.2L USM II, however I have been thinking lately that the 50mm might have me covered for a while... Any suggestions are welcome! Budget is around $2,500 :) Go nuts! And thank you in advance!

The 85 f1.2L or 135 f2L provide results you just can not get from any zoom contains the same focal length. My preference is the 135, but you should evaluate both.

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135 f2 1/5,000 @ f2

samueljay said:
Also worth noting that 300mm was one of my favourite lengths on film, and I'd love to have that focal length, however I don't think I'll be able to afford the ƒ/2.8 version, is the ƒ/4L still a good lens?

On the 5D3, the 300 f4 is very good, very fast focusing and provides excellent results and better reach than with a 200mm. With your budget, you could get both the 135 and 300 and greatly enhance your kit.

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300 f4 1/3,200 @ f4

I loved the results from the 300 f4, but just last week I picked up a used 300 f2.8L IS and am selling the f4 (on eBay this week). With the new 300 f2.8L IS 2 out there are a lot of good used lens opportunities out there right now.
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Good, inexpensive zoom lens? Beginner here.

@Videoshooter

it was the bit...
@HewhoShoots
I think they're a waste of money if you spend over a couple hundred bucks.

..that got me. I would say the polar opposite is true. They ARE a waste of money if you spend less than at least a few hundred dollars.

Anyway, my opinions on the matter are well versed by now, no point repeating.
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What should I buy? 7D or wait for entry level FF?

maddox said:
marekjoz said:
Grabbing FF means selling at least 15-85.

Hi, why do you say I'll need to get rid of the 15-85. This is a fairly new lens (Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM)?

Because you are not able to use EF-S lenses on FF cameras. No matter what the construction of the new FF will be, it is physically impossible to make a proper use of an EF-S lens on a Canon FF camera (if the latter is to be compatible with other EF lenses of course :) ).
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Poll: What will be the price of first EOS M?

marekjoz said:
Although the research was not quite scientific :), I've learnt something from this poll: people here can estimate the price of the new Canon gear quite accurate! Maybe it means, that Canon has done it's market research quite good as well :)
or it means we are fast learners from the punishing prices of late
except for the 40mm f2.8 that is that little gem is worth the $200 easy
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5x5 Vignettes

For those of you new to these, '5x5s' or '5 vignettes' are 5 five second clips of similar shots a shared theme. They can also just showcase one particular subject from different angles, like my own example below.
Vimeo challenged people to make these a few months ago for the 'Weekend project' thing they put out every so often.
If you have ever made one, post it here! I think this would make an interesting thread, videos shot with canon bodies only though, obviously.

Cat 5x5 on Vimeo

This was shot with a 7D and the 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 L in low light.

New Lends

Way to go to town on everything I wrote Axilrod. Perhaps one reply/quote, rather than 3, would have been sufficient?

My point is that the OP doesn't know what lens he wants. For well under his budget of $2000, he can test out all the focal lengths he is considering, (35mm, 50mm, and 135mm) and see which focal lengths he enjoys working with. Then if he wants, he can upgrade.

If he knew he wanted a 50mm, or a 35mm, or a 135mm, and he is willing to fork out the cash, then sure, dive right in with an L lens. But I don't see the point in diving in headfirst without trying out the focal lengths first.

Alternatively, he could rent all three of the 50mm 1.2L, 35mm 1.4L and 135mm 2.0L for a few days and see which he prefers before laying down the cash.
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video using the viewfinder instead of live view?

syder said:
wickidwombat said:
been using the 600mm f4.5FD... I've also noticed this video stuff is HARD

These two statements are related... What are you filming with a 600mm lens on an aps-c camera (effectively making a 960mm lens)? Birds?

85mm on aps-c is close to 125mm FF - which is a fairly standard length for close ups. I've been up to 200mm when filming events from the back of a hall, but at 600 you'll need static shots and to be somewhere around f16-22 to get your subject in focus... At 600mm on a 60D at f16, if your subject (a bird maybe?) is 50 feet away from you, depth of field is just over a foot. And given how quickly birds move, maintaining focus will be extremely hard. If the bird is only 20 feet away your down to about 2 and a half inches in focus...

If you're new to video I'd suggest trying some more reasonable focal lengths and subjects first... Wildlife videography is about a tough as it gets - tracking big cats making a kill is about as far away from a controlled studio setup where you can have multiple takes as possible. And this is a place where having shallow depth of field from a DSLR(as opposed to a videocamera with a 1/3 inch sensor) only makes life harder.

shooting archers firing arrows on full frame not crop so its 600mm so dont want to be too close to the angry end :D because i was setup somewhat downrange but well off to the side out of the line of fire

i was shooting with a 5D on the 600 on one tripod with heavy duty gimbal and the 70-200 on another tripod next to it for wider shots

I think is have some decent footage though its not going to be mind blowing good like most of the video stuff all the people that know what they are doing put out but hopefully it will work :)
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What was the last Canon camera without video?

Mt Spokane Photography said:
Since then, every DSLR has video and all are limited to 30 minutes at the most, thanks to the European Union and their tax schemes that heavily penalize any HD Video that is longer.

The Canon T4i will automatically start a new file and continue shooting at the end of the 29:30. I would assume that, going forward, all Canon cameras will have this feature, so that the 30 minute limit isn't much of an issue.

It also has a sensor heat warning, before it gets so hot that it has to shut down.

Michael
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40mm Pancake Malfunctioning?

I've had that too, the AF just stopped responding, switching to MF didn't work, then some combinations of power off-on and un-remounting the lens makes it work again.

But that was on my EOS 3, I just figured there was some bug with that, given that it's a 14 year old camera with a 2 month old lens.
Never had the problem with my 7D, although i've barely used it on my 7D much, it's made for FF/street more than crop. (Meanwhile, I should get my first processed films back some time this week, to see how 'street' it really is)
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Samyang 35 1.4 adds grain?

Kathode-Ray said:
I noticed this as well. I also see it when I have my 70-200 f/4 fully zoomed-in to 200 on my 60D and there's something bright like blue sky in the frame; even at f/4.0 you can see the texture of the focusing screen. The standard Ef-A screen is quite bright, but also a bit grainy indeed.

I now switched from the Ef-A to the Ef-S screen, and it's much better. This screen gives you a bit darker viewfinder, but in return you get much better contrast and it shows the actual bokeh better. It's more easy to manually focus with this screen, which would be an advantage with the Samyang lens. If you use it with a wide aperture lens like 1.4, the viewfinder still has plenty of light.

Ray

How much was the focusing screen and how hard to install/how much was installation. I have thought I might like to add one to my 60d
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