My biggest concern was shutter lag in R5 like the EOS R. I have been told the R5 is lag free in viewfinder similar to a DSLR. He says he would have no concerns

Guess now is a good time to upgrade my computer as well, doubt I will do much 8K editing but it is already slow with 4K and stills

I think the size of the files would be a lot better. Its starting to look like we may not see a 7d ii but I would be happy with 26mp for stuff that moves. I have got to the point where I don't take out the 7d ii unless things are far away and also moving. If they are far away and not fast I just use one of the crop modes on the 5ds. I also don't have any ef-s lens now. Not sure I want anything more than 50mp either because the files could be too big for even a new computer. I have an i9 10900k and notice some slow down with 50mp some times. The 45mp of the r5 is what I would use for landscape etc.

dtaylor said:

Of course people buy high resolution systems specifically so that they can enlarge more. But nobody is expecting to make large prints from very high ISOs.

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I think we're talking about the same thing but using different semantics.
What I meant was, if you have technical differences between sensors such as noise, you can't equalise them. As in my example, if sensor A is noisier than sensor B, you can't just apply noise reduction to A and tell 'now the sensors are the same'. They're not the same because postprocessing makes comparison meaningless: you can apply the same noise reduction to B and make it better again, or apply even more NR to A and make it even 'better' than B.

The same applies to downsampling (no matter from high ISO or low ISO images). Trading off resolution for NR doesn't actually make sensors 'equal'.

But in the narrow practical sense, when you need files/prints of the same size - absolutely. Yes, within some limits and by using digital manipulation, you can produce images of the same resolution and IQ from different sensors.
But equalisation will always come at a cost of information loss (from one sensor or both). If you consider information loss, it's evident that digital manipulation can't really make one poor sensor on par with a better sensor.

The more I think of it, the more I like this lens vs the DO's (if I had to choose between them).

This by itself gets you to 'close' to the 600mm DO at a much better fstop.
This with a 1.4 TC gets you past the 600mm DO and 'close' to the 800mm DO at a better fstop.
This with the 2.0 TC gets you past the 800mm at a slightly worse fstop but it would cover the range of the DO's (w/o TC of course) w/ less bag room.
This plus an R5 with just running in crop mode for 160-800 w/o the fstop penalty... but at a resolution just under the R (but over a R6).

I could see carrying the 100-500 for the versatility paired with a 2x TC for the optional 600-1000mm reach... and foregoing the DO's... and if running crop could get you up to 1600.

Guess it all depends on the TC IQ.

biznatch said:

Wow.

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$2,699.00

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Thanks for reminding me!
Apparently my guess wasn't that far off ($1), after all.
Now, what do I win?

I do remember so many thinking it would be more like half that!

Wait out this year/lockdown first and read reviews from first adopters of the R5 and R6 cameras.

Once we emerge out the other side, then that'll be the point of re-evaluation. The R and EF roadmap (and therefore, the probability of a 5D5) should be clearer by then as well.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

There are many things I like about the R6, but, I'm concerned that just like my R, I'd keep touching the lcd screen with my thumb while holding it, and moving the AF point. I've messed up a lot of images that way. The R5 has a space for my thumb well away from the lcd.

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I reverse the screen and fold it into the body to protect it. I cracked my 5DsR screen first time in the field.
I have set the middle button on the 4 way controller to centre the AF point. This makes it much quicker to recover the AF point if accidentally shifted. COmbined with excellent face/eye tracking I don't use the drag AF point function anymore.

SteveC said:

...which is why, when the NON control ring adapter is in a kit (and the price is basically such that it is free with the camera and lens), I'd love to have the option to pay another hundred bucks and upgrade, but no, I must pay full boat for it. Or, likewise pay 200 or 300 to get the drop-in filter adapters.

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That would be so nice indeed. :|

Thanks for posting this link.

The guys from DPReview just have finished their review of the Eos R6!

Here you go: https://m.dpreview.com/videos/2834730544/dpreview-tv-canon-eos-r6-review

Cheers

I had three copies of the RF 24-105 I tested them on a tripod and one copy had better corner resolution with less play at the barrel then others.
What was most interesting is that one lens (not the best one) was ever so slightly wider than the rest (at all focal markings).

I think my best copy was very good an all fronts, it's an L lens but also a kit lens produced in big numbers, so I don't expect quality control at the level of the RF 28-70.

CR usually posts a link as soon as it’s out. Usually we get a white paper, too. I’ve been checking canons site basically daily.

chik0240 said:

highly likely will be the case, but I for one is always preferring the OVF for non fatigue usage and that during vacation I don't need to even charge my 2 batteries in the grip more than once, with my vacation usage likely with a R camera I need to charge batteries every night which is tiring... and in fact back a few years when I went to yellow knife for aurora photography, the -30 degrees C temperature did froze up the top 5D III LCD as well as some sony A7 EVF making it barely work after an hour, I do think OVF have it advantage on that

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Well, I don't know what to say about that.
Last winter I went to take some photos at Elbow Falls, in Kananaskis, with a friend.
I had my 5D Mark IV with me and he had his Sony A7R3. We were there for the sunrise and it was a very cold day, about -34C at 7:00AM.

In about half an hour my camera's back screen froze. I could still take photos but I wasn't able to see them. Also, some of the buttons war not working properly.
My friend's Sony was fine, to my surprise!

I never had such problems with my 1DX though, no matter how cold it was. Ever!

Just posted the DPreview Review i the 'Reviews' thread. That's a lot of Reviews.

Tugela said:

That would explain it then. Americans tend to get confused about geography sometimes

You said the factory owner was in China and could not freely communicate because "big brother" was watching. Then you went on to say he is near Singapore. Singapore is a city state in Malaysia, nowhere near China. Granted, most people there are of Chinese descent, but they are not part of China.

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I missed that, he is near Shanghai, I just typed the wrong city.

Funny. Today on CR, two stories published of both an M50 and a 7DMII successor!
It's unclear if the camera mounts will be EF-M or RF, or one each.

There is only ONE lens mount capable of mounting to an APS-C camera in either EF-M or RF camera mounts and fully illuminating an APS-C sensor without the waste of EF lenses - EF-S (with adapter)! Come on guys and girls, you know it. The EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 USM IS II needs to happen

And I'll sweeten the pot, just to grow continued EF-S lens support... Canon should release a 7DMIII in DSLR. All you sports and wildlife shooters are out there for hours, looking through your viewfinders, waiting for the right moment to spray and pray. So, either you'll be looking at a crappy digital LCD with low resolution and contrast, or a gorgeous LCD that saps battery life without mercy. A 7DMIII DSLR with a high pixel count APS-C sensor just makes sense. And that means an EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 USM IS II needs to happen!

BeenThere said:

+$1000.

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Terrifying but correct I guess!

I already have the the 28-70 F2 , so this lens would compliment that and my R5 when it comes , what an expensive year this is turning into lol

Running https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1264060.html through google translate provides some more info, including a table listing IS+IBIS functionality for both EF and RF.

Hi Kit,
I think I have a similar setup to you.
I have the eyepiece set so it doesn't switch the screen off. When I close the rear screen (which is most of the time), it turns off. The EVF switches on automatically when I bring my eye to the viewfinder. At first I used the touchscreen to direct the autofocus points, but now I rely firstly on eye or head tracking and secondly with the 5 controls of the "set" pad: up, down, left, right and the "set" button for centre. Although the delete button centres the AF point, using the "set" button is much more convenient.
I'm okay with this, but the ability to have a button to turn on the screen would be helpful.

I know the OP posted about flash exposure, but I'd like to have a quick rave about EOS R ambient metering. A night ago I shot the dress rehearsal for a play. Very low light (ISO 3200 and 6400 much of the time) and awful red/blue LEDs for much of the time and black walls. I used evaluative metering and facetracking (which worked remarkably well in the low light) so the focus point stayed on the subject and the exposures were on the button - the images obviously needed work in Lightroom, but the in-camera exposures were an excellent place to start. In contrast the exposures with my 5DsR taken at the same time needed considerable under exposure to stop the highlights blowing out and then had noisy shadows.
I continue to find the R an excellent event camera (apart from the single card slot, but I have a couple of work-arounds in place and planned).

Thanks for posting evidence that this camera is capable of stills photography. It's the first we've seen yet!

I hope it holds itself together w/ the EF adapter.

I just hope I have somewhere to go to use it.

SecureGSM said:

++++ This is a lens that will be free with an RP. It's a giveaway lens...
++++ This lens will meet all those needs at the lowest possible price of FREE.

A.M. : no, it won’t be given away for free. Let’s be realistic here . It will be offered at the full RRP included in kit or with a very minor discount of $50 -ish.

The RRP of the lens however:

The Canon RF 24-105mm F4-7.1 IS STM is officially priced at £459.99 / €549.99 / $399.99 in the UK, Europe and the USA respectively.

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Turns out I was right, they had a sale and gave the lens away for free with the RP... I didn't say *always* I meant during sale periods. LOL

A number of you were asking about this, so here you go:


Depending on whether you use 1/2 or 1/3 stop increments, there are two different answers. But it can be f/5.6 @ 400mm if you want it to be.

- A