I Ordered from Amazon on July 10th. They now show a delivery date of October 2nd.

CanonFanBoy said:

Is that a hood/filter holder on the front of the lens? Nice rig!

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It's a Matte box, they normally mount to the rails so you can change lenses and maintain the same filtration and shading. It's one of the reasons cine lenses are so specialized, normally in a set they are all the same external size so changing lenses is comparatively easy.

I did a model shoot last Wednesday and am attaching two images to illustrate how well the R5 can focus on the eye. One shot is the full frame image and the second is a Lightroom crop of the girl's left eye. I was blown away by the sharpness of her eye lashes! I have to downsize the images so they will post her but you can see the higher resolution shots on my Flickr page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lylemariam/albums/72157715917201663/with/50331097192/

Shot with available light at ISO 400, f8, and 250th of a second. I normally shoot at ISO 100 but we were losing the light.

KenG said:

I think you might be right, we will never know until someone who has access to both models and does some serious testing

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Or does some vig(g)orous testing

Kit Lens Jockey said:

Playing around with the IBIS a little more. I'm finding that maybe it works a little better to try to stay a little more loose when shooting. I'm actually getting a little better results not holding my breath and trying to stay unnaturally still.

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Breathing is an issue in any sort of shooting. Holding a deep breath is counterproductive, and holding your breath too much makes your heart rate go up. Relaxation is important.

What works for some people is to take a moderately deep breath and let about half of it out and then hold it briefly.

unfocused said:

@VICYASA, funny timing here. Today Canon Price Watch announced a street price special on the R and 24-105 L lens for $2,300. The lens retails for around $1,000 so that's a great price for the pair.

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That's a great deal. I paid $2,799 without the adapter in July 2019. Paid $100 for the basic adapter.

Great shot, Glenn. Beautiful bird.

Thanks for the suggestion. That might clear up some of my issues with AF!

Thanks for sharing.

Ramage said:

I will take that bet, the grip gets warm shooting bursts. Nothing crazy but I sure do feel it more on my R5 then my R and RP. The CFexpress card, Processor and VRAM are all in the grip and it adds up quick to be a warm camera.

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Ha...sounds like you have one in hand. How warm would you say it gets compared to ~20 min of 8k video?

Joules - I'm aware of the budget FF announcement, but I feel that's a little too much in the other direction price, and likely feature-wise. As for the alternative upgrade options you suggested, I feel like they all have their limitations, except maybe the 90D... Alongside the things you mention, the 5d4 has a gimped rear screen (no touch, no swivel), the R reviews I'm reading say that it detaches from the SLR user experience when it comes to controls.

Czardoom - I'll miss the extended reach for now, especially as I'll only have the 24-105 to start out with, but I do like night, and have been very limited by not being able to get many keepers above ISO 400. I also like to shoot sunsets, so the extra shadow detail would be useful.

It try not to crop too much, as I like to try and get the composition right in camera. However, cropping would be useful when shooting moving subjects.

I'm not considering the M6 due to it's size and tiny grip. I actually find my Rebel a little small for long shooting sessions, as my pinky hangs off the bottom, and ends up cramping because I'm squeezing my hand.

How do you find the EOS R user experience?

Your 45MP Eos R5 just got 0wned for astrophotography.

KKCFamilyman said:

How do you like the 600mm?

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Took it to the zoo for a visit and was pleasantly surprised and happy with the results...does have it's limitations..but still great bang for the buck!

The bit depth changes are unrelated to the compression settings, you'll only get 12-bit files when using e-shutter.

usern4cr said:

Yes, it would make a fun project. But what would interest me is if they came out with a astronomy specific version of the camera (R5 or R6) - with different sensor filter and an add-on ability (by Canon or others) for a Peltier cooler through the tripod socket or additional bottom electrical interface, with 120/240V wall cord, or else DC cables to a big car or lithium battery(s).

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IBIS would need to be removed to enable any cooling of the sensor itself and I guess a heatpipe directly connected to the back of it to conduct heat somewhere external. The heat spreader to the tripod is at the back of the circuit boards if I follow Brian's teardown correctly. It isn't connected to the front spreader which is closest to the sensor, processors and card slots.
Using the R mount drop in adaptor with specific spectrum filters would be an interesting touch.

Kudos to you for not blaming it on the mythic "cripple hammer".

" So we have the regular overhang and foam sealing on top that gives rain protection, but the bottom, the part you might set in a puddle, is tightly sealed. It makes sense unless we missed a leaking point on the bottom. "

At least my impression is that the lower 2/3rds has something new and better, the top 1/3 has the same weather sealing as previous "5" cameras. Overall, I consider this very good. But, yes, I can see how carrying the camera upside down in the rain might be an issue. You'd be counting on the foam sealing.

Nevermind. I figured it out. My own fault. You cannot perform a frame grab if the video was recorded in CLog and that's what I was trying to do.

Antono Refa said:

Which companies have delivered a...

A) 11-24mm f/4 zoom lens
B) 17mm f/4 tilt shift lens
C) 8-15mm f/4 fisheye zoom lens
D) 24-70mm f/2 zoom lens

On the way, could you also check how often do other companies' patents actually come out, and after how long? IIRC, it took Nikon ~7 years to come out with an ultra wide perspective control lens, and it isn't as wide as Canon's.

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I totally agree, the days of not so great wide lenses from Canon is a mantra from over 10 years ago and completely dispelled from the launch of the TS-e 17mm onwards. Going back the the EF lens history...Just to add to your innovation list here....Canon were in fact the first manufacturer to deliver a constant aperture 28-70 f2.8 (1993) then later a 24-70 f2.8 (2002 - pre digital). They also produced the first 80-200 f2.8 aka the magic drain pipe in 1989. it was the first constant f2.8 design. The more familiar 70-200 f2.8 (1995) and a 70-200 f2.8 LIS (2001). Both the original 24-70 f2.8 L and 70-200 f2.8 L were so revolutionary and so far ahead of the competition it look a long time for anyone else to even come close. When Nikon finally made their fantastic 24-70 f2.8 variant...it was a total rip off of Canon's novel design, although newer and sharper..but some 10 years later...what does one expect? In fact these two Canon lenses stayed in Canon's front line lens catalogue for a lot longer than any of the competition's...which point to how Canon innovates. They get it SO right...the first time.
The four lenses that you listed are still without equal. I personally own and regularly use a TSe 17mm and a 8-15mm fish and there is nothing vaguely simular from any other marque. Some of these lenses have been around for a long time now. My 8-15mm fish was bought from the first uk batch (and it cost me a lot). That was nearly 10 years ago. My TSe 17, I've owned for over 11 years.

VictraBarca said:

I'm confused by this thread. Universally the freeze frame/stutter of the R was universally panned. But a lot of people jumping in here to say that the blackout that replaced it is worse? I'm trying to understand that and just can't since blackout is more akin to a DSLR experience.

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I posted some months ago that the viewfinder stutter was the biggest issue I had with the R and how I couldn't believe/understand how RF lenses would help compared to EF lenses. Well I now replaced my EF 24-105/4L with the RF version. Switching on high speed display with the RF lens now makes a big difference and I no longer consider this a major issue with this lens/camera combo.

New firmware up on Canon Malaysia

Antono Refa said:

I assume the stepless aperture is for videographers, and the shift function is for architecture photographers. I do not presume to speak for either audiences, so I'll pass on any further comments.

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This is what someone would assume if reading only the specs.
In practice it is different: the range of the aperture control is very small and difficult to adjust. The scale is also very small less then 4mm from f/11 to f/32.
The shift function could only be used with APS-C Cameras (mentioned in the manual). You could only shift vertical and only +/- 6mm. Nothing in between. No scale. No possibility to fix. The disadvantage of the additional moving parts and the possibility dust and humidity getting inside overweights the advantage.
With the Eos R i cannot use it at all, with my former 80d i tried to use the shift but the effect was always to strong.

Antono Refa said:

the reviews you can read just as well as I do?

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The reviews of the 15mm Laowa are good examples why i prefer the experience of owners:

"The shift is said to work best on APS-C. It can be used on 35mm frame, but there is likely to be vignetting. "

I tried it again yesterday and the shift turned a straight line into a S-shaped curve. The quoted statement is simply wrong.

Looks like Canon is fixing some IS issues with the 100-500

Mt Spokane Photography said:

If a person is asking the question, I'd go elsewhere because they don't know how MTF works. Every component in a photography system can be assigned a MTF. Even film had a MTF. The electronics processing a digital signal can have a MTF.

The final result is always lower than the MTF of the weakest link, be it the lens, sensor, Monitor, printer or whatever is part of the system The final MTF is equal to the product of the individual MTF values.

So, given a lens MTF of 0.8 and a sensor MTF of 0.7, the system MTF is 0.56. Without changing the lens, increasing the resolution of the sensor to say 0.8 will increase the system MTF to 0.64 all using the same lens. Improving the sensor always improves the system MTF as does improving the lens, but a lens does not out resolve a sensor, thats nonsense.

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If you are refering to my click-baity title, it is just that. I have seen posts recently that had doubts about Canon's choice to put a 32 MP sensor in upcoming EF-M cameras. Of course more pixels will yield an improvement, but images are more convincing than words. And they also show the degree of improvement, which is dependend on the lens. So when I wanted to show how even a lowly EF-M prime can make great use of such a sensor, I discovered that TDP lens comparison tool doesn't feature the M6 II for the primes. So I thought this video was worth sharing for the skeptics, as it is the first such test I have seen with this lens and sensor.

If the M system isn't doomed, we may well see more such excellent performing lenses released to add further justification to using this high res sensor in upcoming models. Although that's just speculation on my part.