FWIW, I ended up getting a used (20,000 exposures) 5DsR for only a little more than a new 6DII. Very happy with the decision. Dramatically better camera than the 6D (and my 5DII). Love the shutter. Quieter than the quiet mode of my 6D and faster. Dynamic range is about the same as my 6D. Focusing is waaay better. Main gripe is the very poor conversion of mRaw files by Lightroom. And a flippy screen would be nice.
Keeping my 6D is backup camera for events.

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Photorex said:

Thank you Talys, PCM-madison and ahsanford so far.

I already suspected that the lens will be too front heavy on the M5.
As I will often be aboard a cruise ship a long lens for landscape (espacially icebergs) can be of good value. Then the APS-C cropfactor will help.

On the onshore trips I will then have the M5 (22 [or the 11-22] and 40 pancake) and the 5DMarkII (with 100-400 attached) with me. Don't want to bring too much gear when sitting on the Zodiac for the shoreleave.

regards
Frank

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So long as you have the 5D2 with you, feel free to blast away with the M5. You can always switch the 100-400 to the 5D2 if your wrist cries out in pain.

- A

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It’s still mind boggling that people can go their entire lives trying to support large lenses with the grip on the camera body when it was perfectly logical from the first moment that I touched a 400mm lens that you would never even try to hold the weight of the lens with the camera body.

Small bodies are ergonomically superior when used with large lenses.
At 400mm the lens is the center of balance no matter what body you use. Using a large camera body just makes the entire system less maneuverable, it’s just dead weight no matter how you hold it.

If the M5 doesn’t focus quickly that might be reason enough to leave it behind, but as far as I’m concerned an SL2 would be far preferable to the 5D2. The center point on my 1100D tracks birds in flight with a 400f5.6 well enough (though when I did have a 5D2 it did focus noticeably faster, and the larger viewfinder is nice).
The ultimate wildlife camera would be a 5DS crammed into the SL2 body.

The next problem is that the 5D2 has really low pixel density, if you’re not going to get close enough to fill a 35mm frame then the M5 would get better pictures.

I wish Sigma had a FW fix for their 35mm Art underexposing by a good two stops in LV mode on the 6D2. I don't use it often, but it is another useful tool to have available.

I too have been surprised that it hasn't been seen on another lens since. Maybe the cost really is an issue - I think almost every review of the 35 L II said the same sort of thing: "the best AF 35mm lens money can buy but the old one is so good that it's hard to justify spending so much..."

I did get one and love it! 35mm is my preferred focal length for so many different types of photography.

One thing that did surprise me is that when you examine the lens under light and tilt it you can see the blue element near the front, it lost looks like a blue coloured haze on an element really- it's curious to me that that doesn't have some negative impact on the colours going through and suggests it really is something unusual and special and not just marketing hype.

Re: Isn't That Cute? The EOS Rebel SL2 in White & Silver

Maybe Disney edition SL2 next?

Maybe there is no mush but there are also no legs. Presumably the bird was so close it more than filled the frame, which is hardly testing a lens (there are no size or exif data on Flickr to give the information). Even the Tamron 18-400mm would appear tack sharp if the bird was really that close. So, it would be useful to know how far the bird was away so we could judge.

As a matter of interest, I have read that the Nikon 200-500mm is optimised for closer distances, where it is sharper than the Tamron, but the Tamron is sharper for longer distances.

Lowepro has launched gear pouches(Thinktank and Tenba had been offering these for quite sometime now).
https://www.lowepro.com/gearup

woodman411 said:

DPR gave the Canon M100 a positive review only because it's on the lower end - that's how they view Canon, only good for the "cheap stuff".

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Agreed.

I did a search before posting, but have just found this thread:
https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=26798.0

This didn't offer any solutions. Problems experienced with Lightroom, but no one tried DPP in that thread.

My card was charged this morning by Adorama in the amount of the pre-order for the 85mm lens, so I gave them a call. They confirmed that my lens was indeed at the warehouse and shipping out today. That puts the lens in my hands by next Tuesday or Wednesday.

I currently own the Sigma 85mm Art lens and didn't manage to sell it before the new Canon was released, so I plan to test these lenses head-to-head. I have 2 portrait sessions next week and one of them is with a friend, so I think I should be able to try out a lot of stuff.

I'll be testing chromatic aberration, flare, sharpness, and image rendering from 1.4-2.0. Nothing too scientific, but should be a fun time.

Even if I confirm the Canon isn't as sharp and has worse CA, I still plan to sell the Sigma...unless the new Canon really sucks - which I don't see being the case. LOL

- Kevin

ahsanford said:

it would be promptly snapped up by EOS M owners.

- A

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i'd buy almost their entire DN line as soon as it became available for the M

My 5D IV does have a looser fit, I could not initially find the flap on my SL2, it was nicely done.

You can't really use the same optical design for IS and non-IS because you need the IS group... Can't just take a non-IS lens and add IS to one of the groups. Not in general anyway.

Canon Rumors said:

* Dual Pixel Focus Guide function.
* Retrieval of Lens metadata, such as the model name and the focal distance will display on the camera.

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Feature come to DSLR too?

the 7D2 can do it by setting up the ISO to auto and
for me I customize the "SET" button as Exposure Compensation functionality.

So in Manual mode, I would set the aperture and shutter values and compensate the exposure after chimping the 1st test shot

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AJ said:

For this lens, 400 mm / 67 mm front element size yields f/6.3. This is irrespective of the imaging circle.
An f/5.6 lens will have a front element of 400 mm / 5.6 = 72 mm minimum front element size.
This is why telephoto lenses typically have the larger imaging circle covering 35 mm. There's no advantage to only cover APSC.

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Do you have a good source where I can go read on these relationships? There's a non-intuitive thing going on if that's the whole answer. Is there a focal length range where lenses are f-stop limited, and a shorter focal range where they're coverage circle limited?

I see a lot on f-number ratio, but I don't see a lot on the actual aperture position. Is it a theoretical aperture size at the front element?

Most of the articles I find are piece-meal, with few or no illustrations to clarify what's happening.

double gauss

a) 50mm f/1,2L mark II
b) 85mm f/1,2L mark III

retrofocus
a) 50mm f/1,4L IS
b) 135mm f/2 IS
c) 105mm f/1,4L IS

Nikon exits Brazil as digital camera cutbacks continue

Japanese company misread prospect of growth in South American country

TOKYO -- Nikon is restructuring its sales networks for digital cameras in overseas markets, taking steps including withdrawing from Brazil and shifting focus to factory equipment in Indonesia.

The Japanese manufacturer expects to sell only 4.8 million digital cameras in the year to March 2018, down roughly a quarter from the previous year.

Nikon set up a sales company in the Brazilian city of Sao Paulo back in 2011 when the local economy was booming and the digital camera market seemed poised to grow. The opposite proved true, with a particularly sharp contraction in cheaper, compact models -- the kind most threatened by smartphones. Competition among traditional camera makers intensified, making it a struggle to go on in Brazil, given the high tariffs, once consumer spending cooled.

Nikon is expected to continue to provide repair services for existing customers, but it has decided to close its online sales site, effectively ending its direct sales activity in Brazil for digital cameras.

Nikon is also changing tack in Indonesia. When the company set up a sales company there in 2013, the main focus was on digital cameras. But it ended direct sales of cameras this past spring and now just provides support for sales agents. The emphasis is now on is industrial equipment like x-ray inspection systems and contactless 3D measurement systems to meet growing demand in the auto sector.

Cameras and other precision optical equipment represent one of the few industries where Japanese names -- Nikon's peers include Canon and Olympus -- retain a technical edge on international rivals.

But faced with a shrinking market for digital cameras and slumping sales of its core business of semiconductor manufacturing equipment, Nikon is retrenching. It scrapped its original medium-term plan last November and announced a sweeping overhaul of its global development, production, and sales operations.

The company has already begun consolidating production of optical components and closing factories in China. It is working to reduce fixed costs in its foreign operations and allocate resources to priority areas.

(Nikkei)

Source: https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Nikon-exits-Brazil-as-digital-camera-cutbacks-continue

Lenscracker said:

I have been with Canon since the original F1N. I have begun to defect a little at a time over the last few years because I am tired of waiting for them to catch up with consumer desires and current technology. It is my opinion that when and if this new screen technology is ever implemented it will have absolutely nothing to do with what the consumer wants. Their line of lenses keep us tied to their line of cameras and they know it. Advances in their camera technology seems to embrace the idea that we will take whatever they decide to give us and we will like it.

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It's not solely their lenses/lens-lineup. It's their ergonomics, how they render colors, printing systems, Service, etc. etc.

However, it would be nice if they would come out with a FF and APS-C (or H) that has in-body stabilisation, more DR, etc. etc. Pixel shift tech...

The bottom line is this though, for any of us, can we take the pictures we need/want to take for our business/clientele and/or hobbies? What system will best enable us to capture our vision - in the most effective, efficient, easiest/enjoyable, and repeatable fashion? And a similar question - that we each must answer when deciding on equipment/gear - is what is the bulk of my shooting entail? What are those needs in particular? Because the outlier situations, one can rent equipment for...

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Final thoughts -- well, at this moment, even if I really wanted one, after seeing the preproduction unit, I sure wouldn't buy one, until it came out and I was sure the bugs were all ironed out. Boy, were there a lot, for a unit that they were demonstrating to the general public. Maybe I'm being unfair, but it feels like it's rushed to make Christmas.

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candc said:

Those 3 sigma modes don't have a clear explanation of what they actually do or what they should be used for. I think canon lens "is" functionality is the best.

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Quite correct. When you are a using a telephoto to pinpoint a small bird in a tree you need the viewfinder to focus on the bird and not wander off onto a branch and ruin the AF.

What got me going about this thread was testing a used 100-400mm II. It was brilliant optically on a tripod in live view and had good IS handheld for overall blurring by shake. But, there was blurring at the pixel level handheld at 1/200 - 1/400s. The pixel level blurring was not random, always in the same direction, and didn't happen with another copy of the lens. Either the IS couldn't react quick enough to fast twitching or it was vibrating.

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It is a call for 120MP APS-H, that’s the most logical format to use, but the sensor format is not the main focus of the petition, resolution and pixel density are mentioned more than twice as much as APS-H.
This just happens to be the only format Canon has demonstrated for this type of product, and given that it does have many advantages it only benefits the idea to keep the APS-H sensor in the concept.
The next best thing to ask for would probably be a 50MP APS-C “Mini 5DS” but that’s underperforming compared to what the APS-H concept accomplishes.

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Well, your call for APS-H may be why you had such a poor response. Either that or people are not clamouring for 180MP FF sensor (or equivalent).
My guess is the latter.

Note to self: When raising a petition, make sure the title and main thrust of the petition text actually describes what I am after.

As always, great review Dustin!!
6DII was really disappointing imo

As one can see from examples in this thread, sometimes the iPhone panorama feature produces some good results. Sometimes I need to open them in Photoshop and straighten out distortions and crop to get the effect I wanted.

If I am somewhere without a camera (but of course with the phone, as always), I will try the phone's panorama and take a series of shots to stitch together as well. Then later, I can choose between them. There have been a few occasions where I did the phone pano even when I had a camera along, and then I'd use the camera to take the individual frames for the alternate version. Sometimes the iPhone version has less distortion than the stitched versions. I've not perceived any consistent pattern.

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It's finally a real problem only now that they have a solution. In the past, they just ignored it OR when pressed on the issue, say that super high resolution eliminates it (for the most part), which we all know is completely false.

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Can you explain how it is 'completely false'? Any examples? Compared low resolution sensors vs modern sensors?
It is like many things - when one problem is solved, the critics move the goalposts so they have something to complain about.