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Area256 · Dec 5, 2012

The Waterloo Henry's has one on hold for me (I'm picking it up on Friday). I'm not sure if they have any stock beyond the holds or not though. If you want to get one from Henry's, call and ask them to put one on hold for you when it comes in. They won't charge you anything, or obligate you to buy it, but it'll mean you are one of the first people to get access the local stock.

RustyTheGeek · Dec 5, 2012

robbymack said:
Kingnog said:

robbymack said:

funny you ask this as I have been walking around a lot with my 70-200 and not bothering to take any other lens with me and using my iphone as my wide angle camera. Seems to work for me, IQ is on par with just about any other mid range PS out there plus it has the advantage of being very light and something Id take with me anyway. It also is the best PS on the market for taking the photograph, doing some quick pp through snapseed and off to my facebook or flickr accounts. But if that doesn't work for you I'd invest in the 17-55 f2.8 IS over any of the wide to normal primes especially on APS C. Its way more flexible and you don't lose much if anything in the IQ department. My 17-55 was glued to my 7d.

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Now that's just crazy talk right there! Kudos to you sir for keeping things in proper perspective!

If you're taking photos with facebook or flickr as the only location of the end-product, you don't need a DSLR.

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...you see I was simply comparing an iphone to a mid range PS and noting the benefits that you can fire it off to facebook or flickr with the swipe of a finger. Different strokes for different folks, I enjoy the portability of the iphone and not carrying around a bag full of lenses. I know this may be sacrilegious to some but sometimes I don't even bring a camera on an outing as I enjoy the company of my wife and kids a lot more than taking photos

bvukich · Dec 5, 2012

Final version. Rolling set of 60, and in 4k resolution for more stary goodness...
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Chuck Alaimo · Dec 5, 2012

kyle77 said:
Nice shots Chuck Alaimo, the 85 1.8 does appear to be a beastly little lens, but ever since I tried out an 85 one point oh-my-gosh-that's-a-sexy-lens two at a camera store, I've had severe lens acquisition syndrome. But I'll definitely give the 1.8 a look before I sell a kidney.

The new sigma 35mm 1.4 was also mentioned here. My first thought when I saw that lens was that it looks like a Zeiss and at $899 it isn't too bad, but I've read reports saying it blows the Canon away in terms of sharpness but it's lacking in the bokeh department.

if you want it...lol..won't stop ya... in fact... snag this used one!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/800909022-USE/Canon_1056b002_EF_85mm_f_1_2L_II.html

That'll save ya a pretty penny!

killswitch · Dec 5, 2012

neuroanatomist said:
When you read some things on the Internet, it's best to take them with a grain of salt. When reading KR, you just need a few more grains.

+1 HAHAHAHA....I literally roared in laughter. Good one neuro.

xps · Dec 5, 2012

pwp said:
Another strong vote for the Canon G15. It's my next purchase. There's a very recent review on the G15 at DP Review that you should read. The Canon S110 is worth throwing into the mix. Its lens is not as bright and it doesn't go as wide as the G15, but it does have distinct advantage of being smaller than many smartphones. If you feel you wife would be more likely to take it with her all the time if it was purse size, then maybe the excellent S110 is the one to go for.

Remember you're buying for HER...this is not a toy for you. Think about the way she is likely to use it and locate the camera that ticks the most boxes for HER. Is she a novice? What will she do with her images? Make large prints? Put them on Facebook or Flickr galleries? Store and view them on her iPad? And so on...

Be honest in this appraisal, buy accordingly and she'll love you for it.

For your weekends away I guess there is a good chance you'll have your DSLR with you if something totally awesome comes up.

-PW

+1. Works fine.

Eos M: For this price the AF is toooooooo slooooooooow. Sorry, but for 1000€ (22mm), I want to have more AF performance. IQ was really good

pwp · Dec 5, 2012

kubelik said:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-powershot-g15/5

if you go to mid-page-ish, there's a section on it. it's not entirely clear, they say it can shoot 1.1 fps RAW+JPG until the card is full, but the shooting speed depends on zoom length and "other settings", which is pretty vague. in high speed mode, they say for every 10 shots it takes 5 seconds for the buffer to clear.

Thanks, yes I saw the DP Review piece...it's not that clear is it? Though that suggests the G15 has reasonable processing power for a P&S.
I'm not expecting the same speed as my 1D MkIV! Just enough to be useful.

-PW

thelebaron · Dec 5, 2012

Ray2021 said:
Ok but all things considered, 6d is a slapdash quickie response from canon to nikon's latest lower cost FF entry. At best, a staving move, not a full fledged defense on canon's part.

As more reviews come in, expect an equally mad dash race among retailers to 6D's final price resting point -I will spare repeating the number here . In months, not a year.

At that price point it will be a good value and competent performer. But by no means is it a 5D3 competition.

How do you get this at all? I dont think canon does anything slapdash, it took them a good while to release the eos m. The cameras are similar, its not like the 6d is falling apart due to being rushed out the factory(at least no bad reports just yet). If you think its slap dash due to the DR, I think that nikon has just won this round fair and square. Or due to things like less af points, less mp, only 1 sd slot etc, Id say those are conscious decisions, not that they ran out of time designing it..

jonathan7007 · Dec 5, 2012

Lumiquest made a 5"x7" speedlite softbox for direct attachment whose shape at the bottom allowed the Canon sensor to measure the scene. Velcro on the head needed as with so many other modifiers. I have one. It folds into a very compact 5x7x0.5. Easy to throw in my bag.

The rectangle seen in the attached photo embedded in the white front panel is designed to better diffuse the light coming out of the head. I have opened panels on this ti allow light out the side or top, but rarely.

I do not know if this is still sold.

jonathan7007

AdrianAllen · Dec 5, 2012

Axilrod said:
Can you not get in on the B&H 60D deal ($899 for 60D+18-135 and a few other things)?

I would if only I could, but I live in Europe. So it's a no go. ATM that said set costs around 1000euro + 50euro rebate, that's good enough for me.

Marsu42 said:
Thus dust sealing is more important to me, and in this category even the 60d should do ok (unless non-sealed lenses, esp. zooms which will attract dust and sand like a magnet).

Dust sealing is more than enough for me too. And I wouldn't also be afraid if I would be caught out even for a while under a slight drizzle.*according to the reviews, that is*

RustyTheGeek · Dec 5, 2012

Mt Spokane Photography said:
Appropriate post, but why in the lighting forum?

My thought was because Joe McNally is such a lighting guru as of late.

dexstrose · Dec 5, 2012

Here is a noise comparison from The Digital Picture:
http://www.The-Digital-Picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-6D-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx

TommyLee · Dec 5, 2012

I looked at SLR gear site....where they tested the 24-70 II ...
http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1494/cat/11

I collected the graphs and compared with ....
the 24L, 35L 50L ...and for lack of something better ...the 70mm position of the 70-200 II.

looking at chromatics also....

seems to do fairly well....
(MAYBE the 35L is ready for a replacement ....with these chromatics and with Sigma release - IMO
But I do love my 35L)

would liked to have seen better performance at 70mm.. and especially I.S. ....
(I guess we are spoiled by the recent Canon lens releases)

but for this difficult range...it compares pretty well......to the overall quality of the 70-200 II
(well ...really..... very little compares to the 70-200 II)

thought it would be of interest to know that this test is up....

TOM

UPDATE note:

the 24mm L prime and 35mm L prime sharpness graphs are swapped ... (24mm is under the 35mm zoom column)

Dylan777 · Dec 5, 2012

MichaelTheMaven said:
Hey Everyone- To answer your questions:

1. These are all SOOC. To really appreciate what you are seeing you really need to see the full size images on the blog. I own a 5Diii, the 6D's high ISO noise is cleaner. Ill be doing some side by side tests tomorrow.

Did some head-to-head high ISO portrait tests vs the D600, and the 6D wins, but I did notice something: The higher the ISO, the softer the image appears. Will be posting samples probably tomorrow on the blog: http://www.michaelthemaven.com

2. The Wifi feature is really awesome, I will go as far to say a game changer. There are a lot of creative things you can do with this, street shooting for example, wear your 6D around your neck, play with your iphone, and no one would know you are taking pictures. Self Portraits? Family pics? No problem. Tethering and most remotes are officially obsolete. One thing I dont like is there is no timer! Im sure it is coming.

The lag is about maybe a half second or so, pretty quick. The EOS Remote App that operates it seems a little bare, but you can preview exposure as well as change you Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO, and even touch focus from your iphone. Very nice.

More to come

MM

I hope so

I'm looking for 2nd body.

Dec 5, 2012

kubelik said:
the other general lesson learned here, is to not post huge statements about equipment that is unowned / unused. I can't even guess at how many times inflammatory stuff has been posted, and then a few pages in we all find out the OP has never even seen the piece of equipment in person, but they "heard" or they "read" about it.

not trying to jump on you, just hoping everyone learns from this. I sincerely hope you have a better day! sometimes bad mornings are good for lowering expectations

You are absolutely right here, I should have asked a question instead of making a statement. Never comment about something you do not know. I know the rule, but obviously forgot it this morning. At least I hope some will see my efforts to apologize and recognize my ability to admit my mistakes.

Thanks Neuro for the further explanation.

tron · Dec 5, 2012

2 days ago while I was taking test photos with my 5D3 to check AFMA I noticed that the battery was well below 50%. I remembered this thread and switched to continuous high. The sound was like 5 to 6 frames per second. This has been confirmed when I used the info button to check which pictures had been taken the same second. I counted 5 but this is an approximation (there is no tenth's of a second granularity). I repeated the test when the battery indicator was a little more than 10% and the sound seemed the same. So I believe that my camera behaves OK.

sagittariansrock · Dec 5, 2012

Marsu42 said:
You gave good reasons for the 17-55, other reasons favor other lenses (zoom range, size, weight, last not least price), so it's often a matter of preference esp. if the af and iq are decent on all possible choices.

Excellent point. In this case the OP is specifically asking for f/2.8, so 17-55 is the most obvious recommendation, but I have used and do recommend the 15-85 as well (http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11355.msg202863#msg202863) in other situations. Like you said, the price and build quality are points in favor, while the IQ is comparable at smaller apertures.

I agree fast prime or FF is the way to go for low light, and I intend to go that route (in that order) over the next few months.

dlleno · Dec 5, 2012

yes. background reading here

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11224.0

mw · Dec 4, 2012

Thank you. I'll leave it alone.

Dec 4, 2012

You want abstract? Next time you send your tiff files to the lab send them 16 bit instead of 8. Acid flashback!

verysimplejason · Dec 4, 2012

5D2 comprised 30-35%. Who's complaining about AF? 6D's AF is more than enough to get you there.

wickidwombat · Dec 4, 2012

24-105 doesnt need slim filters

verysimplejason · Dec 4, 2012

neuroanatomist said:
verysimplejason said:

I can see more than half of those pictures taken by 5D mark II.

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Not half, more like a quarter. A link to a metadata analysis of those image was posted in this thread.

I wonder... All those people posting that Canon is behind, that they have to catch up, whatever...what do they think about Canon being behind when a collection of Reuters' 'best images' of the year was shot with the camera distribution in that collection? I realize that there are many categories of photographer besides photojournalists, but eyeballing the pie chart, Nikon has 9-10%, Sony 1%, and Canon around 90% of the images in the collection. When seeing a piece of data like that, it helps put some of Canon's design choices (e.g. the 1D X) into perspective.

Sorry, I'm wrong but I think it's more than a third.

KyleSTL · Dec 4, 2012

OK, that does it, I'm selling all my gear and carrying around a Panasonic FZ200 from now on since there is no 25-600mm f/2.8 lens for DSLRs. Not even the Siglauncher can hold a candle to that FL/aperture combination. /sarcasm

To be fair, though, in perfect light that would be a pretty good package for birding. Although the tripod and gimbal would weigh considerably more than the camera. IQ would not even be in the ballpark of a 1Dx / 600 II rig, but the size, weight, and cost ($600 vs. $20K+) difference is night and day. Likely any crop DSLR and 400mm f/5.6 would result in image quality much greater with fewer pixels and would not be an order of magnitude more expensive.

EDIT: Actually, I'd like to see this shootout:

FZ200 @ 600mm f/2.8 ISO 100
vs.
10D/300D/Digital Rebel @ 400mm f/5.6 ISO 400 (640mm equ with 400mm f/5.6L USM)
vs.
10D/300D/Digital Rebel @ 200mm f/4 ISO 200 (cropped to 1.7MP with 70-200mm f/4L USM)
vs.
10D/300D/Digital Rebel @ 300mm f/5.6 ISO 400 (cropped to 3.8MP with 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM)
vs.
10D/300D/Digital Rebel @ 300mm f/5.6 ISO 400 (cropped to 3.8MP with 75-300mm f/4-5.6)

Axilrod · Dec 4, 2012

That's definitely not normal, 135L is pretty quiet and the only noises I just heard on mine were subtle clunks (for lack of a better term), but definitely not high pitched at all. Should be much quieter than the other lenses you mentioned.

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