rafaelsynths said:

Hey,

I'm new here at canonrumors but like everyone else i've been reading from the sidelines.

I'm selling my gmc sierra 2006 2500 truck, my dad is giving it to me as a gift for my graduation but i don't need it and he needs some cash so we are fixing it up and splitting the profits of 20,000.

I'm currently shooting film with a canon canonet ql17 giii, i got it since i couldn't afford buying lenses for a cheap camera body.

So my question is if you had 10 grand to spend on photography gear what would it be? Include a camera body.
And no i won't be buying what you exactly want of course but was just curious on what you would purchase.

I'm looking into the canon 5d mark iii myself right now. Not sure though maybe a 1DX or a 7D

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Budget money for:

Lighting - $1000
Software - 200
Computer and / or monitor $2000
Monitor calibrator - $200
Printer Ink, and Paper?? - $1500
Tripod and Head - $1000
Camera Case. - $100
RRS L Bracket and extra QR plates - $300
Camera body - 1500
Lenses - 2200

I think you get the idea, accessories are a huge expense. you can compromise. but don't buy junk that you will throw away. If you don't buy a printer or computer, spend it on a 5D MK II plus lenses

jrista said:

The 5D III resolves THREE TIMES as much information as necessary to produce FULL 1080p output. Three times the information is cross-processed and downsampled, which effectively produces a BETTER output pixel, for the given target resolution, than you would generally have by recording natively.

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The 5d mk3 video is more like 720p, not real 1080p according to some test comparisons, i.e. panasonic gh2 driftwood or canon c300, those are proper 1080p.

So much about sampling and Canon's marketing.

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jrista said:

I guess its worth mentioning if you do astrophotography and intend to have the top LCD on while exposing, you might want to send yours in for repair, or better yet, wait for Canon to release versions that have a fix. Better yet, forgo the 5D III, and pick up a 60Da for better IR/H-a sensitivity and greater magnification for less than half the price.

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Better yet, don't rely on the in-built meter in conditions it wasn't designed for. None of the astrophotogs I know use the on-board meter; it simply won't deliver you what you want for that type of photography at those light levels.

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LOL. Aye...I was making a very stupid joke. I've never used the meter when doing astrophotography either.

Are you pulling focus with the screen on the back? Yeah never do that, you have to have some kind of external monitor or EVF, or at least a Z-finder of some sort.

Wow the footage coming off the C500 looks pretty damn amazing, check out "Man and Beast" here: http://cinemaeos.usa.canon.com/media-gallery.php

As dswatson says you can prioritise shooting or focusing. That does the job. I did set my DoF preview button to change SingleShot-AIservo for rapidly changing situations. I did register AF points in all three positions of the camera (Portrait, left right and landscape) and found that I need just to push buttons to jump AF from one end of the screen to the other or to the middle - it is very fast and metering follows well: eg in landscape I registered one AF point at 1/3 to the left, pushed the active point to 1/3 to the right via multicontroller and if I need middle than just depress the multicontroller straight down. So, push AF-ON goes the the left, and depressing the multicontroller juggles between middle and far right or where I left it before. I quite like this shortcut instead of hitting the multicontroller all the time around.

vWings said:

Updated with no issues leaving the CF in camera while loading the update from the SD card.

Other than some uncertanity over the firmware filesize not exactly matching Canons description of the file, updating was a breese.

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Same here. No issues during upgrade. I left my CF card in the camera and the firmware was loaded in an SD card.

scott72 said:

So how does one update Firmware Version 1.1.2 to their 5D Mark iii ? Thanks in advance, cheers!

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If you download the firmware to your computer it will come with a pdf file showing you step by step how to do it. It's pretty simple, mine is updating now. (mind you I never updated my 5D2 at all - and I had one of the first...)

I use Cokin system

I use a lot of coloured grads and wb for interesting effects

Drizzt321 said:

The 5d3 only makes that easier, especially when it comes to the AF & better noise at high ISO (better being not as bad and nicer to look at than the 5d2). One thing I have noticed while going through all of the photos, the 5d3 seems to have pretty improved lack/nicer noise in solid black/way underexposed areas. I can pretty much tell which shots are from the 5d2@3200 vs 5d3@6400. The 5d3 looks so much nicer in the dark/black areas!

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That is really good that you are enjoying it. I have found that the better the camera the less you have to worry about the technical side which gives you the time to focus on the composition

Canon Support just informed me of this - note the line on the serial numbers of your cameras that are affected

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_5d_mark_iii?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e02480538fc7

It seems all this concern may have been for nothing and the delays it caused were fruitless based on this advisory..uggh.

Mine finally arrived, charging the batt now ;D

Couple of question I have from that review... which overall seems very well written and fair...

1) Wouldn't interpolating re-sizing the canon image from 22MP to 36MP potentially destroy some of the original data and increase the SNR in an unfavorable direction when trying to recover data from the shadows? Could any additional color noise or banding been introduced as a result of the resize?

2) Would shooting with a Canon Mount Zeiss have made any difference over using the Nikon Mount version with the EOS adapter? Could this have introduced any unwanted characteristics?

While I don't believe he should have reduced the D800 file, as I don't think that would be a fair comparison either, I would like to have seen a recovery performed on the original image, not interpolated. Just for comparison.

It appears normalization is the bane of any comparison between these two bodies because the MP gap is just so large.

I'm asking these questions, because I honestly don't know the answers. I'm making an assumption based only on my experience with reworking images.

ChrisJ_SLH said:

I'm not even going to check mine. Life is too short.

It's hardly a drama that a launch version of camera firmware has one or two issues. Not really the end of the world is it?

Anyway, I have pictures of lens caps to take....

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Lol awesome. I need to develop all of my lens cap on pictures. A did a bunch of hdr and time lapse ones and they look amazing!

Ming-Tzu said:

After some thought, I am going to keep both the t2i and the 5dm3 for my low-light events. On the crop, I'll use the 17-55. On the FF, I'll use one of my primes.

An alternative for me might be to get the 16-35L II for my FF and use one of my primes with the crop.

Who knows.

Thanks!

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If you get an ultrawide, it's cheaper to get it for the crop camera (i.e. Tokina 11-16 or Canon 10-22). Use the primes and faster lenses on the FF.

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elflord said:

But I really don't see the relevance of this. Again, I believe this is just a data dredging exercise that Canon fans have undertaken because they are unhappy with the 5DIII test scores. The complaint is misdirected -- they should be complaining to Canon.

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As far as I can see this here is about DXO and how they do their tests (number ratings) and not limited to the academic poor sensor quality of the 5d MKIII... I guess there are 3-4 other threads in this forum here parallel to this one where people who never used the MK III on their own are doing this... Btw I own both the MKII and MK III so I can at least tell that the MKIII is much better IQ wise... and I have also tested most of lenses myself so I know that the 300mm f2.8 II is the about the highest resolving lens I have ever seen.

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I absolutely agree with you here on the 5D2 vs. 5D3. What I find funny/sad is how many people there are who prefer to trust a number vs. reviews from people who have actually used both cameras. DXO is a joke. They are like that computer in Hitchhiker's Galaxy that spits out the number 42.

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many people have tested both and surprise, surprise, they get the same dynamic range findings as DxO did, so no, DxO sensor tests are not a joke (maybe their lens tests though ;D)

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Really? Where are these people? Are they Oompa Loompas or real people?

Of the folks here who owned a 5D2 and now have a 5D3, how many agree with DXO that the 5D3 is only marginally better for high ISO? Of those who have a 1D4 and a 5D2, how many agree with DXO that the 5D2 has better high ISO (admittedly I do not own a 1D4 but everyone I know who owns both cameras believes the 1D4 is a bit better).

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Who was talking high ISO? It's low ISO where DxO shows the D800 spanking the 5D3.

The 5D3 is around 1/2-2/3rds stop better SNR than the 5D2, more toward the 2/3rds side. Not huge but enough to notice, especially at ISO6400+ or in scenes with tons of near black where the nicer high iso banding helps.

You don't have to own the cameras to take a white and black frame (I've shot Canon since the EOS 650, BTW, and do own the 5D2 and since I just found a special $3100 deal on the 5D3 I might even get tempted to just stick one more round rather than $ hassle to switch now, but even if I do stay, I will switch if the 5D4 also has left-in-the-dust 2007 levels of dynamic range).

I matched DxO's results exactly for ISO100 DR in my tests and so have a number of others, all independently, on DPR and elsewhere. A well respected landscape photographer and long time Canon user posted a D800/5D3 review and notice behavior that exactly matched the DxO measurements, as have some others.

Just deal with the fact that they have done a single thing since 2007 to improve low ISO photography.

If you don't all try to hide that fact away then maybe the 5D4 won't have the same problem, if you do then maybe it will and I'd rather not have to switch over to Nikon, but if the next gen after the 2012 release don't show improvements here, sadly, I finally will. I seriously thought about it for the first time, this time, and I suppose still could.

All I see there is a nice sweater!

Seriously, nice picture.

briansquibb said:

A picture from yesterday with the 7D + 24-105. This is an old but much loved, angora goat. The brief was, as is mostly, to capture the character of the animal rather than all washed and brushed which it never was. Most of the owners want images that reflect the animal as they saw it day to day - hence it is covered in hay ...

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Thanks bought it from here
http://www.digitalwonderworld.de/index.php/cPath/85/language/en

NormanBates said:

it's insanely great, and amazingly priced

here you can get a glance of the reaction from the grassroots filmmaker community:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?280186-BlackMagic-Cinema-camera!!!!-2-5k-for-3k

bye bye Canon, glad to have met you

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From what people are saying, built in battery - that would suck because your recording time is limited to the how long the charge will last and how long it would take to recharge...unless there is a AC cord that which allows you to plug into an external power source. Smaller sensor equals less depth of field which would put it on par with a camcorder. JVC's upcoming camcorder does 4K video, but so what. It's still looks like video.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

I wonder how large D800 files will be at the high ISO's?

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From what I've heard, the wrong side of 50Mb :S

Ya definitely avoid getting it wet at all times... While you can get lucky, and it might surivive, it's a much different animal than a 60D which has something like a 9V maximum current running through it at any particular time. Flashes need much more power.

Working at a rental house in Vancouver, BC (A very wet part of the world in winter especially), this is always a matter of contention with our more professional equipment. Unfortunately most of our stuff has fans and therefore can't be bagged terribly well...

And the D800 is the best sensor out so far... ;D

1) Reach, reach, reach for birds and you can never have enough.
2) 300mm 2.8L IS with 1.4x extender is great for large birds that are stationary in a tree or nest and you are somewhat stationary with mono or tripod help and a gimbal head. I use glass taxi as permanent storage, space for extenders, flash, pro body and easy travel. Great for field sports. I will never let it go!
3) 100-400mm is great and serves a separate purpose with much more flexibility, works well in tight quarters no mono or tripod, and travels well. Everytime I think about getting rid of it I use it one last time and change my mind!
4) 600mm 4.0L IS, used and I think that I have arrived at my final destination. With extenders, gimbal head on tripod and very heavy but I knew that getting into it!
5) All used on 50D, 5DII and 1D Mark IV (purchased used)

I use them all for different purposes and bought them over time but wonder if expectations can ever be met.

I think Canon have released enough with the 5d3 for now