Rumoured Canon EOS Rs Specifications [CR1]

[Aussie shooter]

Don’t get caught up in fanboyism. Fanboys exist for all camera companies (plenty of Canon fanboys) and don’t represent the bulk of camera users.They tend to be more vocal online too and you could question how much photography they actually do.

I think we all question the amount of actual photography done by the most vocal.

 

[Quirkz]

Just to be picky; The Good, The Bad & The Ugly was shot last but in the time line of the Trilogy it's the first. We see where Blonde gets his poncho and it's set in the American Civil war when Clint is using a percussion revolver converted to use metallic cartridges. In the other two he's using the Colt SAA introduced in 1873.

Great films and great musical scores.

Yes I got the reference and i don't think it's cause for anyone to get on their high horse with or without a Peacemaker

You just blew my mind. I had no idea.

 

[Bahrd]

[...]
“Alexa, set my aperature to F2.8”
“Alexa, set my shutter speed to 150”

Or I’m switching to SONY!

You'll have to right after mentioning Alexa anyway... Messing around with Alexa and being in a relationship with Eos isn't a smart move!

 

[Quirkz]

A Fistful of Dollars is a knock-off of Yojimbo by the iconic Japanese director Akira Kurosawa, who also directed the Seven Samurai, which was knocked off by the Magnificent Seven. Actually, the westerns are really good and as enjoyable as the original Japanese. But, the original Kurosawa are works of genius.

I own the both on blu ray. Watching them one after another is a revelation. Entire scenes are reproduced. Fortunately, Sergio Leone gave full credit to the originals - he didn’t try hide where the inspiration came from.

Jojimbo is fascinating, as it was inspired by American westerns. Beautiful cycle.

 

[Kit.]

Ah, looking on the wikipedia page, it has a comment how Minolta wasn't able to compete well against the 'Big Two of Canon and Nikon', so I thought the duopoly had been around for some time. It may have just been referring to the change to digital however?

I have no actual data about the causes of Minolta's decline, but Minolta could never establish itself as a camera system for pros, although they had a huge following of enthusiasts. Minolta was also over-investing (or at least so I thought) into the APS film fad.

 

[Del Paso]

I have no actual data about the causes of Minolta's decline, but Minolta could never establish itself as a camera system for pros, although they had a huge following of enthusiasts. Minolta was also over-investing (or at least so I thought) into the APS film fad.

Couldn't it be that subjective (emotional) reasons also played a part in Minolta's decline, just like Miranda's ?
It has often been said that Miranda didn't sound "manly" enough, like Minolta. Canon and Nikon seem to have better names. Of course, the Minolta XM/XK came a little late, and was far from being perfect...and no match for the F 2.
PS: I was for a very long time an enthusiastic Minolta user, until Nikon ads convinced silly me that a serious photographer had to buy a real tool...
And then came Canon...

 

[snoke]

So many MP make sharp picture hard using hands.

Old rule, shutter 1/mm. Film rule.

75MP digital have more detail. Need new rule.

1/3*mm?

 

[dtaylor]

For those who like measurements and are interested in sensor resolution and how it is affected by f-number and AA-filter, here is a graph from https://www.optyczne.pl/324.4-Test_aparatu-Canon_EOS_5Ds_Rozdzielczość.html

And for those who are interested in how numbers map to real world images: one is 5DsR, one is 5Ds, one is 5Ds with very light sharpening. And I would bet good money that multiple scenes printed 48" and shuffled would leave anyone scratching their head as to which was which or if there was even more than one camera involved.

To each his own, but I decided a badge wasn't worth a couple extra hundred dollars.

 

[dtaylor]

So many MP make sharp picture hard using hands.

Old rule, shutter 1/mm. Film rule.

75MP digital have more detail. Need new rule.

1/3*mm?

My gut says 1/2*mm will be enough (absent any form of IS which would improve the situation). Anyone with a 90D or M6.2 could test this since the pixel density would be similar.

 

[Joules]

To each his own, but I decided a badge wasn't worth a couple extra hundred dollars.

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I think your images are very much appreciated, but to make them more meaningful you should share the settings they were taken with. Especially aperture, since if these are taken at a DLA, it might be misleading to use these as demonstration.

Also, an image of something natural with a lot of detail, like a leaf or a bird feather may help more to show the difference, since printed text could also be limited by the printer's ability to produce detail.

 

[Don Haines]

I own the both on blu ray. Watching them one after another is a revelation. Entire scenes are reproduced. Fortunately, Sergio Leone gave full credit to the originals - he didn’t try hide where the inspiration came from.

Jojimbo is fascinating, as it was inspired by American westerns. Beautiful cycle.

Now you need to watch “the great escape”, followed by “chicken run”

 

[Quarkcharmed]

My gut says 1/2*mm will be enough (absent any form of IS which would improve the situation). Anyone with a 90D or M6.2 could test this since the pixel density would be similar.

I can only use my phone atm but the first image seems to be the least sharp. #2 and #3 are almost the same in terms of the apparent sharpness, but this comparison is meaningless. Why wouldn't you also sharpen the 5DSr one? It would appear even sharper. If you're trying to prove that 5DS can catch up 5DSr by applying sharpening - no, the proof doesn't hold, because we can also apply the same amount of sharpening to 5DSr. You'll never catch up by using digital sharpening.

 

[Ozarker]

Don’t get caught up in fanboyism. Fanboys exist for all camera companies (plenty of Canon fanboys) and don’t represent the bulk of camera users.They tend to be more vocal online too and you could question how much photography they actually do.

I'm a fanboy, and I do plenty of shooting.

 

[Sporgon]

I can only use my phone atm but the first image seems to be the least sharp. #2 and #3 are almost the same in terms of the apparent sharpness, but this comparison is meaningless. Why wouldn't you also sharpen the 5DSr one? It would appear even sharper. If you're trying to prove that 5DS can catch up 5DSr by applying sharpening - no, the proof doesn't hold, because we can also apply the same amount of sharpening to 5DSr. You'll never catch up by using digital sharpening.

I guess dtaylor is demonstrating resolution, not sharpness.

 

[Sporgon]

You are equating contrast and sharpening with resolution, but they are different

No I'm not. I have found there is no difference in what is resolved, only contrast and sharpness when comparing the un-sharpened 5Ds against the 5Dsr. In fact I think somewhere in Canon's original advertising of the 5Dsr it specifically states sharper images. Which is true - until you sharpen the 5Ds.

 

[AlanF]

No I'm not. I have found there is no difference in what is resolved, only contrast and sharpness when comparing the un-sharpened 5Ds against the 5Dsr. In fact I think somewhere in Canon's original advertising of the 5Dsr it specifically states sharper images. Which is true - until you sharpen the 5Ds.

This is what Canon actually wrote for the 5DS vs 5DSR:

Canon Product Showcases | Canon U.S.A., Inc.

The Product Showcases from Canon U.S.A., Inc. Explore the Canon products further and discover why these are worthy of your attention.

www.usa.canon.com

"The EOS 5DS R camera's LPF cancellation effect delivers greater sharpness and finer detail, useful in specialized situations" ..... "The EOS 5DS R is a specialized version that is intended for photographers looking to capture the maximum amount of detail possible"
So Canon claims and illustrates that the 5DSR has better sharpness and detail (= resolution), in contrast to what you find.

 

[Sporgon]

This is what Canon actually wrote for the 5DS vs 5DSR:

"The EOS 5DS R camera's LPF cancellation effect delivers greater sharpness and finer detail, useful in specialized situations" ..... "The EOS 5DS R is a specialized version that is intended for photographers looking to capture the maximum amount of detail possible"

Spot on - assuming both files are processed the same.

 

[stevelee]

well... I spent 4 grand on imac and same on laptop and I wish they were quicker... once you have such big files opened, not only ram plays part but the graphic card. switching between couple of pictures is a lot of juggling in terms of computer memory, it slows everything down. if you buy a new mac, do not save on the graphic card, go for the quickest that's available. those are the real problems if you want to have some life after a busy work

My 5K iMac is over four years old. I ordered it with the best graphics card and processor at the time, and I maxed out memory and the SSD. Nothing I’ve tried slows it down, including editing 4K video in FCP X. The only thing I wait for is when Compressor renders a batch of video.

 

[MadScotsman]

My 5K iMac is over four years old. I ordered it with the best graphics card and processor at the time, and I maxed out memory and the SSD. Nothing I’ve tried slows it down, including editing 4K video in FCP X. The only thing I wait for is when Compressor renders a batch of video.

True. Mine is 4 years old, and isn’t struggling one bit.

I’m really bad about having G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition System). And I keep looking at the new iMacs and specs then I feel silly because... well... mine is just fine. Absolutely NO way I can justify the expense.

 

[Quarkcharmed]

I guess dtaylor is demonstrating resolution, not sharpness.

He's demonstrating resolution by tweaking the sharpness slider on 5DS and not tweaking it on 5DSr?