Rumoured Canon EOS Rs Specifications [CR1]

[StoicalEtcher]

I played with the specs and got to around $7100

However, I"m held up from buying due to the lack of the Radeon Pro W5700X with 16GB of GDDR6 memory as an option.

They say it is coming soon....not sure what the hold up was, they've touted this as a choice from the beginning.

I was counting on this option being powerful enough for me to start with and likely about $1K above the base GPU offering.


I was prepared to pull the trigger on about an $8K MP.....and was hoping to buy before end of year so as to write it all off on taxes.

I'll keep looking to see if they put that up as a choice before Dec 31st.

Going with that next higher video card pushes my configuration to just over $9K which is more than I had planned to spend initially.

I did notice that they have a special till end of the year that if you use the Apple Card you get 6% off, which would cut the expense with the higher graphics card to about $8550.

I might can go for that.

I discovered about $400 cash back on a card the other day, that I used to offset my new film camera purchase recently, I need to dig around and see how much cash back is sitting on my Apple card and other CC's...that might help justify going a little higher than planned.

But overall, my guess on price was about right.

And my old Macbook Pro is really needing replacement, I just bog it down WAY too often lately with video and images I'm working on.


I'm looking to go for:

12 core CPU

32G RAM

One of the Graphics cards

1 TB SSD storage

And although I already have FCPX, I'm going to get the extra $199 bundle for education so I can get a copy of Logic Pro X, and the other tools to play with too.

Cayenne,

I seem to be in a similar boat to you - other than sticking with 8 core and instead going for the 48gb ram (probably going to go 2TB for storage).

Having said that, I'm a photographer rather than a IT specialist, so I'm interested in whether you reckon swapping ram for number of cores is a better option or not? What is driving your thoughts here? (I don't do video, other than some personal family stuff - kids birthdays etc - so video handling is not a requirement for me).

Thanks. Stoical.

 

[Aussie shooter]

It's so funny reading all the stuff written by the teck heads(coming from a computer illiterate that gets confused with more then three cables and two other options). I love being reminded of how little I know

 

[cayenne]

Cayenne,

I seem to be in a similar boat to you - other than sticking with 8 core and instead going for the 48gb ram (probably going to go 2TB for storage).

Having said that, I'm a photographer rather than a IT specialist, so I'm interested in whether you reckon swapping ram for number of cores is a better option or not? What is driving your thoughts here? (I don't do video, other than some personal family stuff - kids birthdays etc - so video handling is not a requirement for me).

Thanks. Stoical.

Well, my thoughts are, RAM will be easily replaced or added to, etc....and likely can be had for a good bit of discount 3rd party than by Apple BTO (Build To Order).

While you can swap out your CPU.....I'm going to go with the best I can afford at BTO, but will add more RAM almost immediately after I get the computer, likely from Crucial ....like I've done in the past with my MBP.

You can get more bang for buck doing RAM additions / replacement after purchase than you likely can with trying to later upgrade your CPU. CPUs cost a bunch more than RAM and what do you do with our old CPU you're replacing?

And I figure 1TB for a system HD is plenty (the SSD). I mean, I don't store that much on it that is NOT system required stuff. Applications and system stuff.

But right now, I have a couple (soon to be more) external thunderbolt drives. I have one that is a SSD external that is dedicated as cache only to the applications that need it.

My other external drive, is where I keep my media....pics, video, etc.. So while I'm editing, I cut down disk I/O...the system and applications work on the internal HD, the media is worked on its own drive and cache values have their own drive.

At least that's how I see it.

HTH,

cayenne

 

[StoicalEtcher]

Well, my thoughts are, RAM will be easily replaced or added to, etc....and likely can be had for a good bit of discount 3rd party than by Apple BTO (Build To Order).

While you can swap out your CPU.....I'm going to go with the best I can afford at BTO, but will add more RAM almost immediately after I get the computer, likely from Crucial ....like I've done in the past with my MBP.

You can get more bang for buck doing RAM additions / replacement after purchase than you likely can with trying to later upgrade your CPU. CPUs cost a bunch more than RAM and what do you do with our old CPU you're replacing?

And I figure 1TB for a system HD is plenty (the SSD). I mean, I don't store that much on it that is NOT system required stuff. Applications and system stuff.

But right now, I have a couple (soon to be more) external thunderbolt drives. I have one that is a SSD external that is dedicated as cache only to the applications that need it.

My other external drive, is where I keep my media....pics, video, etc.. So while I'm editing, I cut down disk I/O...the system and applications work on the internal HD, the media is worked on its own drive and cache values have their own drive.

At least that's how I see it.

HTH,

cayenne

Cayenne,

Many thanks for taking the time to respond.

I see where you are coming from -good food for thought. (I like to try to have my own thoughts in order, before then trying to persuade my IT guy that I know what I want. I do then take their advice of course ).

Anyway - sorry to everyone else for going well off the reservation.

Stoical.

 

[Michael Clark]

unless the DR can compete with sonys from 5 years ago, i dont see myself coming back to canon. as a landscape photographer, i've been waiting for two years now for them to show me the money and produce something worth coming back for. their lens line is clearly superior, but they've shown year after year now that they can't keep up with sony in the DR department. i couldn't care less about FPS, IBIS, ergonomics, and video, just give me great image quality that can compete with sony.

Is it really that much effort to capitalize the first letter of each sentence? Unless you learn to do that, I don't see myself reading any more of your comments.

 

[tron]

I am SO EXCITED about this!

Anyone complaining about this EOS Rs must be either non-pro or just like to troll. If all it does more than my 5dsr is more MP and more dynamic range, then it's 100% worth it for me. I couldn't care less about IBIS for a camera that will do all it's commercial work from a tripod.

This 75Mp combined with a backup/alt body 1Dx3 with more Mp and Clog would be a dream come true. For years I dreamed of a wider TSE lens and they delivered with the 17 which paid for itself 100x. I then wished for a Canon version of the Sigma 12-24 and they delivered to me the 11-24.

Complainers should busy themselves with making images or some other art instead of wasting mental energy on spec bashing.

Interesting post in the sense that I agree with some things and disagree with others.

Agrees:
It is silly for someone to complain about Rs since it is an imaginary camera. Of course EOS Rs will be a very capable camera. Also Canon cameras have the tedency to prove in practice much better than in specs. I have 1x5DMkIV 2x5DsR 1x7DMMkII and I like all of them (although for different reasons!). Recently I also got the EOS R with the mind in their 2 out of 3 2.8 zooms for next year. So no mirrorless hater here (Important to keep this in mind when reading the disagreements).
I also have TS-E 17 and it put to no use my TS-E24! Very versatile!

Neutral:
IBIS: it may range from useless to very useful depending on camera use: Not all use it on tripod (but I understand your point regarding commercial work of course). But when you shoot handheld at low light due to restrictions it has to be very useful.

Disagrees
Regarding: "If all it does more MP and more dynamic range ... etc" does not make it a superset of 5DsR
It fails to be a birding camera and it fails to be a camera that does not need many batteries per day.
On these two things EOS Rs will leave a lot to be desired.

I guess there are many different uses/needs and there is no camera to rule them all!

EDIT: Neither Pro but not complaining either by the way!

 

[Michael Clark]

In a diffraction limited lens, yes. In an aberration limited lens you certainly can gain both resolution and sharpness by stopping down. I'm not sure if there are any diffraction limited lenses in 35mm format. Every one I can think of has an optimal aperture stopped down from wide open, even if just 1 stop. I know there are a few in MF.

Roger Cicala, who tests lenses for MTF rigorously, has noted more than a few lenses that are just as sharp wide open as they are stopped down by one stop. Most are long focal length 'Super Telephoto' lenses.

 

[Michael Clark]

Why? Minolta was one of The Big Three (SLR camera manufacturers) and had the most feature-rich cameras. Technology-wise, Canon was a follower.

Until they developed USM lenses. That, combined with the all electronic camera-lens communication and control interface, is what put them at #1.

 

[Cryhavoc]

Is it really that much effort to capitalize the first letter of each sentence? Unless you learn to do that, I don't see myself reading any more of your comments.

Is it really that much effort, on your part, to just ignore the lack of capitalization and read the content for what it is?

 

[Kit.]

Is it really that much effort, on your part, to just ignore the lack of capitalization and read the content for what it is?

Not sure about Michael, but I have better ways of spending my time than reading everything on these forums.

If people don't care about making their posts readable, they should not expect me to care about (or even know) their opinions.

 

[koenkooi]

Is it really that much effort, on your part, to just ignore the lack of capitalization and read the content for what it is?

The lack of interpunction is a bigger problem for than the lack of caps. But still, if someone can't bother with making things readable, why should we bother to invest the extra effort into reading it?

 

[stevelee]

imnotsurewhyimreadingthisthreadanywaysinceihavenointerestinbuyingthecamera

 

[The Fat Fish]

It must at least match the specs and pricing of the 2017 A7RIII. High resolution, high dynamic range, IBIS, dual card slots, full frame 4K, over-sampled Super-35 4K, great battery life and fast FPS.

 

[Ozarker]

It must at least match the specs and pricing of the 2017 A7RIII. High resolution, high dynamic range, IBIS, dual card slots, full frame 4K, over-sampled Super-35 4K, great battery life and fast FPS.

Funny guy. The 1DX Mark II is already faster than the A7RIII and a year older. It's also much more fun to hold. Already has dual card slots. etc. When I close my eyes and hold a 1DX Mark II I am reminded of the soft warm hands of my first teen girlfriend. When I close my eyes and hold an A7RIII I'm reminded of granny's brittle and cold paws. If the Sony could at least come close color wise, that would be nice. It doesn't.

 

[stevelee]

Granny loved you a lot longer.

 

[Ozarker]

Granny loved you a lot longer.

Not really. Married my first teen girlfriend 37 years ago when we were 18.

 

[VICYASA]

With those potential specs, what would pricing be more or less? Can anyone, based on knowledge speculate on this.
Thanks in advance...

 

[Ozarker]

With those potential specs, what would pricing be more or less? Can anyone, based on knowledge speculate on this.
Thanks in advance...

My speculative knowledge (Magic 8 Ball from 1972) tells me $3,499.95.

 

[SecureGSM]

My speculative knowledge (Magic 8 Ball from 1972) tells me $3,499.95.

considering current market conditions and commercial wars for market domination between C and S, a7R IV being priced $3,499.00. etc.
Canon may consider bringing the Rs to market at a little bit better than that price. not by much, but...