There is so much crap written about the RF 800 f/11. It's a fine lens if you know when and where to use it. The first thing is the myth about f/11 being too narrow. The number of photons per duck, which determines the noise in the image of the duck, depends on the diameter of the lens not the f-number. So, a 400/5.6. 500/7.1 and 800/11 all have the same diameter front lens and all have the same S/N in the duck at the same shutter speed and their maximum aperture. You just have to increase the iso 1.5 and 2x as you go from f/5.6 to f/7.1 to f/11. It's the same myth about f/7.1 being narrow; 500/7.1 lets in as many photons per duck as 400/5.6 and 200/2.8. It's not the iso that makes the noise, it's the number of photons, and this is what confuses people. As it gets dark, you often go to high iso to keep up the shutter speed and so you think it's the high iso that gives the noisier image. But, it's not the iso, it's the low light.
An EF 800 /5.6 will let in 4x more light than the f/11. Even if I wanted to shell out the cash for one, it would be pretty useless for me because I couldn't take out out on a hike slung over my shoulder and hand hold it. The 800/11 is not my favourite lens as I need a close focussing zoom for insects as well as birds and be able to zoom out to 500mm or less for BIF for my general use, but I do use it when I know I'll be using it just for distant perched birds as it is light and does produce sharp images - as good as my former 400mm DO II at 800mm with a 2xTC. When I travel with restricted kit, the R5 + RF 100-500mm + RF 2xTC is the best combo for me, though I can manage for much of the time with the R7 and RF 100-400mm. But, I am pleased to have the 800/11 (£500 used - what a bargain).