Come on Canon!!!
I am going on a big trip in the fall and want to have compact ILC. ARRRGGGHHHH!!!
I am going on a big trip in the fall and want to have compact ILC. ARRRGGGHHHH!!!
nads said:For anybody interested in a 35mm equivalent FOV, there is nothing anywhere in the canon lineup that comes close to touching the quality of the M + 22mm f/2 at any kind of reasonable price point.
Bob Howland said:nads said:For anybody interested in a 35mm equivalent FOV, there is nothing anywhere in the canon lineup that comes close to touching the quality of the M + 22mm f/2 at any kind of reasonable price point.
I assume "reasonable price point" means the current M price point, or does it mean the original price point of the M or the current price point of the M2?
EOS RT loses 2/3 of a stop not 1/3. By the way I do have it. Unfortunately its shutter needs servicingMt Spokane Photography said:I think that there are some at Canon who remember getting burned with their two previous tries at making cameras with a fixed pellicle mirror. Sales were good at first, then tanked as users realized the limitations brought on by losing 1/3 of your light.
nads said:For anybody interested in a 35mm equivalent FOV, there is nothing anywhere in the canon lineup that comes close to touching the quality of the M + 22mm f/2 at any kind of reasonable price point.
tron said:EOS RT loses 2/3 of a stop not 1/3. By the way I do have it. Unfortunately its shutter needs servicingMt Spokane Photography said:I think that there are some at Canon who remember getting burned with their two previous tries at making cameras with a fixed pellicle mirror. Sales were good at first, then tanked as users realized the limitations brought on by losing 1/3 of your light.
2/3 of a stop is 1/3 of the light.tron said:EOS RT loses 2/3 of a stop not 1/3. By the way I do have it. Unfortunately its shutter needs servicingMt Spokane Photography said:I think that there are some at Canon who remember getting burned with their two previous tries at making cameras with a fixed pellicle mirror. Sales were good at first, then tanked as users realized the limitations brought on by losing 1/3 of your light.
Thanks, I just saw that the word "stop" was not mentioned and was wondering the same myself.Kit. said:2/3 of a stop is 1/3 of the light.tron said:EOS RT loses 2/3 of a stop not 1/3. By the way I do have it. Unfortunately its shutter needs servicingMt Spokane Photography said:I think that there are some at Canon who remember getting burned with their two previous tries at making cameras with a fixed pellicle mirror. Sales were good at first, then tanked as users realized the limitations brought on by losing 1/3 of your light.
It is a known old Canon issue with the shutter getting old and needing cleaning (some rubber parts that look like oil on shutter). The service price was around 70 euros which is too much for a film camera that probably cannot be sold even for that amount!Mt Spokane Photography said:I hope you can get it fixed.
Zv said:Take your pick of currently available systems from Fujifilm, Sony, Olympus, Canon or Nikon. Loads of MILCs to choose from. Why wait for some mythical M3 that will prob never see a US or Europe release?
The current gear available today is more than good enough. The only limitation is the photographer.
Zv said:Take your pick of currently available systems from Fujifilm, Sony, Olympus, Canon or Nikon. Loads of MILCs to choose from. Why wait for some mythical M3 that will prob never see a US or Europe release?
The current gear available today is more than good enough. The only limitation is the photographer.
AvTvM said:Zv said:Take your pick of currently available systems from Fujifilm, Sony, Olympus, Canon or Nikon. Loads of MILCs to choose from. Why wait for some mythical M3 that will prob never see a US or Europe release?
The current gear available today is more than good enough. The only limitation is the photographer.
wrong. dead wrong.
The current MIRRORLESS gear is nowhere near "good enough". Most definitely not the Canon EOS-M and M2.
Not good enough in terms of AF speed and performance. Only 2 MILCs are currently equipped with a remotely tracking-capable AF system - Fuji XT-1 and Nikon 1, but the latter has way too small a sensor.
Not good enough in terms EVF - resolution, color, lag ... while better than before, still suck, even in the best MILCs (Fuji XT-1).
Not good enough in terms of shutter - not one MILC with a fully electronic global shutter yet. 100% silent. 100% free of vibrations. And X-Sync all the way to 1/8000s.
Not one MILC good enough in terms of battery charge ... 500 shots plus.
I also want a compact Canon EOS M3 with a better sensor, fully tracking-capable AF [@ 5+ fps], state of the art Retina-EVF and decent battery charge for 500+ shots. At a reasonable price - meaning 100 USD€ less than the cheapest comparable mirrorslapper.
mb66energy said:Zv said:Take your pick of currently available systems from Fujifilm, Sony, Olympus, Canon or Nikon. Loads of MILCs to choose from. Why wait for some mythical M3 that will prob never see a US or Europe release?
The current gear available today is more than good enough. The only limitation is the photographer.
In my opinion your last sentences are mostly true.
I love my EOS M because it has two real advantages:
- small and lightweight
- standard zoom is much better than the equivalent standard zoom for DSLRs
O.k., manual mode is awkward in terms of control, an EVF would be very helpful.
But: Give that camera
- a control wheel near the shutter release button (e.g. for exp time) and
- a second control wheel concentrically to the lens mount (e.g. for aperture) (like S95 etc.) and
- an ISO wheel +
- a tiny LCD which shows just aperture, exp time, ISO and remaining shots/minutes.
- a larger battery (with it's compartment acting as substantial hand grip)
and that camera is a winner for a lot of people - for these who enjoy photographic tools and are willing to pay e.g. 1000 $/€ for such a body. And it might be a winner for Canon: Advertising for a series of feature oriented EOS M like bodies (larger display, Wifi, 2nd display for selfies, etc.)
For me EOS M has replaced the S95 successfully as "always with me"-camera with extended capabilities and much better image quality especially at ISO bigger/equal than 400 ASA.
Zv said:Take your pick of currently available systems from Fujifilm, Sony, Olympus, Canon or Nikon. Loads of MILCs to choose from. Why wait for some mythical M3 that will prob never see a US or Europe release?
The current gear available today is more than good enough. The only limitation is the photographer.