A New Nifty Fifty Coming [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

<p><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/02/new-50mm-70-300-coming-soon-cr2/" target="_blank">Yesterday we were told that a new 50mm lens would be coming</a>, along with a new 70-300 non-L, non-DO lens.</p>
<p>Today we’re told the new 50mm will be an f/1.8 with STM and a 49mm filter thread. This seems to be a replacement of the current “Nifty Fifty” and not the 50mm f/1.4.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[Maximilian]

Sad for all like me, hoping for a f/1.4 replacement, but reasonable if it's true.
Canon wants to improve / renew their starter lenses to get new people in the DSLR market.

Follows the lineup of the other STM lenses.

 

[Marsu42]

Today we’re told the new 50mm will be an f/1.8 with STM and a 49mm filter thread. This seems to be a replacement of the current “Nifty Fifty” and not the 50mm f/1.4.

Amazing, according the user poll this is what nearly nobody expected (see http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=24892.0). To me, this is really disappointing, I'd really like to have a Canon f1.4 at a reasonable price with good bokeh and a real usm motor.

Obviously Canon isn't able to move out of their own trap since 2007 that releasing an f1.4 update would threaten their f1.2 L sales and can't even be pushed by Yn releasing a clone. Or is the f1.4 to be discontinued anyway?

 

[Northstar]

Where in the HE double hockey sticks is the 50 1.4 replacement??

Sigh...

 

[fabioduarte]

Sometime ago there was a mention that the next 50mm lens would be an IS version of the 1.8 and it would replace both the 1.8 and 1.4.

 

[Sporgon]

Sometime ago there was a mention that the next 50mm lens would be an IS version of the 1.8 and it would replace both the 1.8 and 1.4.

That's true, although it doesn't look as if this lens will have IS from the rumour so far.

Where in the HE double hockey sticks is the 50 1.4 replacement??

Sigh...

Maybe this it it. It could be that this lens is very good. It's easier to make a f/1.8 better than a f/1.4. If this lens was as good as the current 1.4 stopped down across the frame, but better at f1.8, who's going to buy the current f1.4 lens ? If it's a metal mount and case quality similar to the 40 pancake, latest IS prime releases etc, them I'd be more than happy with STM for this type of lens.

 

[YuengLinger]

Gateway prime.

 

[Marsu42]

Maybe this it it. It could be that this lens is very good. It's easier to make a f/1.8 better than a f/1.4. If this lens was as good as the current 1.4 stopped down across the frame, but better at f1.8, who's going to buy the current f1.4 lens ? If it's a metal mount and case quality similar to the 40 pancake, latest IS prime releases etc, them I'd be more than happy with STM for this type of lens.

You're correct that the mediocrity of the f1.4 and the ultra-cheap plastic f1.8 play in Canon's favor as they don't have much of a challenge improving upon that.

However, for me a fast prime is about good bokeh - and a smaller filter thread indicates that they didn't put much importance into this. It still could have a stellar design, rounded aperture blades and whatnot - but I'm rather pessimistic as they will try to sell their expensive f1.2 for this purpose :-\

 

[lintoni]

Where in the HE double hockey sticks is the 50 1.4 replacement??

Sigh...

+1

 

[Sporgon]

Maybe this it it. It could be that this lens is very good. It's easier to make a f/1.8 better than a f/1.4. If this lens was as good as the current 1.4 stopped down across the frame, but better at f1.8, who's going to buy the current f1.4 lens ? If it's a metal mount and case quality similar to the 40 pancake, latest IS prime releases etc, them I'd be more than happy with STM for this type of lens.

You're correct that the mediocrity of the f1.4

Hey, Steady ! The current EF 50 f1.4 is superb from f3.2 to f8 in terms of resolution. One of the lenses that would eat up the new 53 mp sensor at those apertures.

However, for me a fast prime is about good bokeh -

and a smaller filter thread indicates that they didn't put much importance into this.

Well a fast prime for me is all about size, balance and portability.

And what's that last comment all about ? Ever heard anyone complain about the bokeh of a Pentax 50mm f.1.7 takumar ?

 

[lw]

If it has IS, I will be tempted.
But somehow I doubt it. I think this will be priced too cheaply as a replacement for the current 50mm F1.8, and the price point won't accommodate IS.

That said they manage to put IS in their kit zooms. But even they are priced higher than the current 50mm F1.8.

However, if the price point is something more like $200+ in keeping with the 40mm F2.8 STM then I would think there is more chance it will have IS

 

[Nitroman]

Boooooooooooooo !!! :'(

I wanted a 50mm f1.4 IS !

If it is a decent f1.8 with IS i'd be fairly happy as better than f2

 

[zim]

STM's make sense with the anouncement of the 760 I guess

not giving up on a 1.4 USM update at some point this year though... keeping the faith! ;D

 

[kphoto99]

Canon wouldn't do an STM lens without IS, so that would make it a 50/1.8 IS STM. The price of the "nifty 50" would then approach that of the 50/1.4 (maybe around that of the 40 or a bit more.)

If so then that means an update of the 50/1.4 would come later ...

What about:
40 2.8 STM
24 2.8 STM
22 2 STM

None of them have IS.

 

[Viggo]

Wow, I'm underwhelmed to say the least.... I guess my initial plan to get the 16-35 f4 IS for something new and fun still is on....

 

[rs]

However, for me a fast prime is about good bokeh - and a smaller filter thread indicates that they didn't put much importance into this.

Entrance pupil size dictates the quantity of bokeh, not quality. The focal length and aperture define the exact dimensions of the entrance pupil (50/1.8 = 27.77mm), and set a lower limit for the filter size.

Neither of these factors influence the quality of bokeh.

 

[Cet]

<p><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/02/new-50mm-70-300-coming-soon-cr2/" target="_blank">Yesterday we were told that a new 50mm lens would be coming</a>, along with a new 70-300 non-L, non-DO lens.</p>
<p>Today we’re told the new 50mm will be an f/1.8 with STM and a 49mm filter thread. This seems to be a replacement of the current “Nifty Fifty” and not the 50mm f/1.4.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

49 mm filter thread? Why? Why not keeping the common 52 mm to avoid replacing the filters? Is STM the only advantage? No IS? Why not a pancake? And even the pancakes do come with a 52 mm filter thread, both the EF 40 and the EF-S 24 use the same flat lens Hood ES-52. Could it be that f/1.8 is not feasible as pancake? If so, they should have added IS to the new 50 mm. To me IS is more valuable than STM.

 

[Chaitanya]

no plastic mount please. 50 1.8 was the first prime I ever owned. :'(

 

[Antono Refa]

I guess the Yongnuo 50mm f/1.8 presents, or is perceived by Canon to present, too much of a competition to the EF 50mm f/1.8, so Canon decided to upgrade the lens.

 

[jolive3]

I'm guessing that the most logical thing would be an ef-m 50mm. It's the one lens I miss! There are others though The 50 1.4 replacement should be in line with the 24, 28 and 35 IS lenses. And please stop bashing the 50 1.4, for it's size and price it's still a great lens!