Besides the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS, What are the Other 3 Lenses Coming?

[ntt2007]

Canon could give the 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, and 100mm f/2 the same treatment as the 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8, and 35mm f/2 got.

The two most "outdated" are the 50f1.4 and 28f1.8.. the 85f1.8 & 100f2.0 much less so, but who wouldn't want improved optics and IS on these two.

So perhaps the 28f1.8, 50f1.4 & 85f1.8

IS all round?

Better mechanics?

Or will they nerf the lot with nano-USM.. yuck!

How about the 20 mm f2.8?
Does anyone miss small ultrawide with possibility of fron filters? I do.

I'm on the same boat as you. I wish canon will release another EF pancake lens in the range between 21-35mm. The 40mm 2.8 is a great lens but I dont like this focal length much.

 

[slclick]

What's the highest end glass to come out of Malaysia to date? 40 Pancake?

 

[LonelyBoy]

You're getting a little confused, "high end" in the article was pertaining to the 85mm f1.4 L IS not the 3 lenses being made in Malaysia.

I don't it's Khalai that's getting confused. :

See below from the very first post. This little trio from Malaysia is supposed to be 'high end'. Seems fishy, but perhaps some nice non-L FF lenses might be coming.

- A

What's "high-end"? L only? Faster than f/2? Anything above STM? Anything made by Canon?

And remember, the EF-S 35 Macro rumor said "not a specialty lens, like a macro". So I take details like that with a grain of salt.

 

[BillB]

Canon could give the 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, and 100mm f/2 the same treatment as the 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8, and 35mm f/2 got.

The two most "outdated" are the 50f1.4 and 28f1.8.. the 85f1.8 & 100f2.0 much less so, but who wouldn't want improved optics and IS on these two.

So perhaps the 28f1.8, 50f1.4 & 85f1.8

IS all round?

Better mechanics?

Or will they nerf the lot with nano-USM.. yuck!

How about the 20 mm f2.8?
Does anyone miss small ultrawide with possibility of fron filters? I do.

I'm on the same boat as you. I wish canon will release another EF pancake lens in the range between 21-35mm. The 40mm 2.8 is a great lens but I dont like this focal length much.

Canon could give the 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, and 100mm f/2 the same treatment as the 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8, and 35mm f/2 got.

The two most "outdated" are the 50f1.4 and 28f1.8.. the 85f1.8 & 100f2.0 much less so, but who wouldn't want improved optics and IS on these two.

So perhaps the 28f1.8, 50f1.4 & 85f1.8

IS all round?

Better mechanics?

Or will they nerf the lot with nano-USM.. yuck!

How about the 20 mm f2.8?
Does anyone miss small ultrawide with possibility of fron filters? I do.

I'm on the same boat as you. I wish canon will release another EF pancake lens in the range between 21-35mm. The 40mm 2.8 is a great lens but I dont like this focal length much.

With a full frame sensor DSLR, 40mm may be about the shortest focal length where a pancake design can be used because of the need to allow clearance for the swinging mirror. With shorter focal lengths a retro focus design would be needed, leading to a larger lens.

 

[Sharlin]

The 18-135mm IS (nano)USM replaced the 18-135mm IS STM. I wonder if Canon is planning to give the nUSM treatment to the "holy trinity" of cheap EF-S lenses: the 10-18mm IS STM, 18-55mm IS STM, 55-250mm IS STM. Those are not "high-end" by any definition of the word though, and the 18-55mm was just recently updated. Still, I have a hunch that Canon is going to largely transition from STM to nUSM in the future. (Plus likely from some lower-end USM to nUSM as well, like the 70-300mm and the rumored new 50mm 1.4 (sorry ahsanford... :'( ))

 

[Woody]

And remember, the EF-S 35 Macro rumor said "not a specialty lens, like a macro". So I take details like that with a grain of salt.

Thanks for the reminder! ;D

Before the release of EF-S 35 f/2.8 macro, we get from http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=31742.0

"We’re told that the next new non-kit lens Canon will announce is an EF-S prime. We weren’t told what focal length the new EF-S prime lens would be, but we do know that it’s not a specialty lens like a macro."

It's likely the trio of lenses is just one lens with different colors or a series of cheap EF-S/EF-M primes

 

[Sharlin]

It's likely the trio of lenses is just one lens with different colors or a series of cheap EF-S/EF-M primes

Maybe they are high-end colors!

 

[Khalai]

It's likely the trio of lenses is just one lens with different colors or a series of cheap EF-S/EF-M primes

Maybe they are high-end colors!

Ferrari red, Bentley black and Bugatti gold?

 

[rrcphoto]

It's likely the trio of lenses is just one lens with different colors or a series of cheap EF-S/EF-M primes

if it's colors, then it's likely EF-M, because EF-S has two colors (white/black) and EF-M has three colors (white/silver/black)

 

[Sharlin]

It's likely the trio of lenses is just one lens with different colors or a series of cheap EF-S/EF-M primes

Maybe they are high-end colors!

Ferrari red, Bentley black and Bugatti gold?

"L" red, of course! Why settle for just a red ring when you can have a red lens!

 

[LonelyBoy]

It's likely the trio of lenses is just one lens with different colors or a series of cheap EF-S/EF-M primes

if it's colors, then it's likely EF-M, because EF-S has two colors (white/black) and EF-M has three colors (white/silver/black)

Unless it's one color added to each of three lenses.

 

[rrcphoto]

It's likely the trio of lenses is just one lens with different colors or a series of cheap EF-S/EF-M primes

if it's colors, then it's likely EF-M, because EF-S has two colors (white/black) and EF-M has three colors (white/silver/black)

Unless it's one color added to each of three lenses.

True. That'd be decidedly strange to do on a M20 release.

 

[ntt2007]

With a full frame sensor DSLR, 40mm may be about the shortest focal length where a pancake design can be used because of the need to allow clearance for the swinging mirror. With shorter focal lengths a retro focus design would be needed, leading to a larger lens.

Thanks Bill for explain that. I have no idea how lens construction works but I still wish to see something so compact from Canon like the pancake 21 3.2 limited from Pentax. If Canon can make something from 20-35mm in the size of a 50 1.8 then I'm more than happy to buy it. Who know what the future can bring.

 

[Loswr]

With a full frame sensor DSLR, 40mm may be about the shortest focal length where a pancake design can be used because of the need to allow clearance for the swinging mirror. With shorter focal lengths a retro focus design would be needed, leading to a larger lens.

The Voigtländer 20/3.5 is a pancake lens (1/4" longer than the Canon 40/2.8), for FF bodies. No AF, though.

 

[Khalai]

With a full frame sensor DSLR, 40mm may be about the shortest focal length where a pancake design can be used because of the need to allow clearance for the swinging mirror. With shorter focal lengths a retro focus design would be needed, leading to a larger lens.

The Voigtländer 20/3.5 is a pancake lens (1/4" longer than the Canon 40/2.8), for FF bodies. No AF, though.

And corner sharpness is also nothing to write poems about...

 

[slclick]

With a full frame sensor DSLR, 40mm may be about the shortest focal length where a pancake design can be used because of the need to allow clearance for the swinging mirror. With shorter focal lengths a retro focus design would be needed, leading to a larger lens.

The Voigtländer 20/3.5 is a pancake lens (1/4" longer than the Canon 40/2.8), for FF bodies. No AF, though.

But poems are dreamy and soft!
And corner sharpness is also nothing to write poems about...

 

[Luds34]

Canon needs to follow suit with Nikon... by delivering something it has already been selling for 20+ years?

Optical quality of Canon's very old 28 f/1.8 and 85 f/1.8 leaves much to be desired.

Really???

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=106&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=3&LensComp=355&CameraComp=979&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=4&APIComp=0

I think too many folks think you need that "professional" red ring before the lenses are good. My experience with both the 28mm (which was mostly shot on high density crop sensor) and the 85mm are they're excellent lenses. Razor sharp stopped down. CA is both of their weaknesses though however.

 

[Khalai]

Canon needs to follow suit with Nikon... by delivering something it has already been selling for 20+ years?

Optical quality of Canon's very old 28 f/1.8 and 85 f/1.8 leaves much to be desired.

Really???

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=106&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=3&LensComp=355&CameraComp=979&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=4&APIComp=0

I think too many folks think you need that "professional" red ring before the lenses are good. My experience with both the 28mm (which was mostly shots on high density crop sensor) and 85mm are they excellent lenses. Razor sharp stopped down. CA is both of their weaknesses.

Actually that 28/1.8 USM is a nice lens. I've used it on my 7D as a standart walkaround lens. On APS-C, the quality is good to very good from f/2.2-4 and build quality is also very decent with no moving parts, fast and silent AF and overall compactness and rigidity. But I sold it, when I purchased 24-70/2.8 II - apart from wider aperture, there is no contest. With 85/1.8 USM I've had nothing but bad luck. First copy was a dud and second one was not focusing reliably (on 7D). But as you said - both lenses are still relevant with only CA as a major weakness (and that 28/1.8 has a rather mushy corners on FF wide open as well).

 

[jolyonralph]

The 28mm f/1.8 isn't highly regarded in the astrophotography world as it has terrible coma - see https://www.lonelyspeck.com/lenses-for-milky-way-photography/

 

[magarity]

It's likely the trio of lenses is just one lens with different colors or a series of cheap EF-S/EF-M primes

if it's colors, then it's likely EF-M, because EF-S has two colors (white/black) and EF-M has three colors (white/silver/black)

The EF-S also comes in silver, just not sold in North America.