Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs

[zim]

It should shoot 4K video (even though it would have 42 million wasted pixels since 4K is only 8 mp).

that's not how it works

He'll be upset about that ;D

 

[RGF]

Wonder if lack of GPS in rumored specs is significant or just an omission

 

[Perio]

I am going to be so upset with this camera.

It should have been able to do 12 fps and noise improvement so we can get great results at 12800.
It should have had GPS, WIFI and Pop Up Flash.
It should shoot 4K video (even though it would have 42 million wasted pixels since 4K is only 8 mp).


Any way I am so upset.

I wish they would announce this thing so I can get my pre-order in.

Oh, and that will upset me as well. I want this camera released now, not in a few months.

Oh no, not again. Why do some people keep complaining that a soon to be released camera is not made to satisfy their personal needs. To my mind, this camera is to a certain degree a 1ds iii successor aimed at studio photographers, portrait and landscape shooters and maybe for macro. Why would you expect it to have 12 fps? Why does it have to have GPS and WIFI, and 4k video? If that's the case, what would make other people to buy 5div with (I guess) all these features?

 

[sanj]

It seems to me that Canon has abandoned us EOS1D users...such a pitty.

The 1DX is targeted at those shooting for newspaper and magazines. And that is why the D4 doesn't have a large megapixel count either.

When the maximum print size is A4, you don't need 20+MP.

First point is an assumption. Second is false.

 

[sanj]

I am going to be so upset with this camera.

It should have been able to do 12 fps and noise improvement so we can get great results at 12800.
It should have had GPS, WIFI and Pop Up Flash.
It should shoot 4K video (even though it would have 42 million wasted pixels since 4K is only 8 mp).


Any way I am so upset.

I wish they would announce this thing so I can get my pre-order in.

Oh, and that will upset me as well. I want this camera released now, not in a few months.

Oh no, not again. Why do some people keep complaining that a soon to be released camera is not made to satisfy their personal needs. To my mind, this camera is to a certain degree a 1ds iii successor aimed at studio photographers, portrait and landscape shooters and maybe for macro. Why would you expect it to have 12 fps? Why does it have to have GPS and WIFI, and 4k video? If that's the case, what would make other people to buy 5div with (I guess) all these features?

Dude smile. The guy is joking. OBVIOUSLY.

 

[Orangutan]

Unruly: I do not think it means what you think it means. If you're getting in the way of free flowing traffic (pedestrian or mechanical) then it is you who are unruly. Perhaps the word you are looking for is "indignant," "perturbed," "hindered" or "vexed."

Quite some imaginative suggestions here and elsewhere. Unfortunately the truth is mundane as I don't really ever get in the way of any pedestrians while shooting.

I use unruly as in "uncontrollable" i.e. not being able to control the flow of others who then upset the scenes I hope to capture. Which according to the dictionary is a correct use of the word.

I apologize if I misunderstood you. I saw this

Unruly pedestrians wanting to pass me during a shot

and it implied to me you were blocking traffic. At least, that's what this expression typically implies in American English. Perhaps you meant pedestrians wanting to pass in front of you during a shot. If so, then I misunderstood your meaning.

 

[Aglet]

Just imagine how much improved that DR number's gonna be on DxOmark when they scale down to 8MP!
snark aside, I hope you Canonites get a better IQ body, finally. You've all been so patient and hopeful.

 

[mb66energy]

I would think the biggest differences/advantages of medium format are:

1. Shallower depth of field.

MF lenses rarely are what one would consider fast in 35mm, f/4 or f/5.6 are quite normal, f/2.8 takes the place of f/1.4. They're rather designed to avoid the flaws lots of small frame lenses have wide open. And you've got the leaf shutter to avoid mortons fork of ND filters or f/16.

So the 100mm 2.2 for Hasselblad and the manual focus 85 or 90mm 1.9 from Mamiya transform roughly into f/1.0

 

[Creative69]

Thank you Canon! I do expect a forum to be filled with debate and criticism but some of the negative feedback is disappointing to say the least. The fact is the line between a consumer and pro camera is very blurred today, and if anyone that thinks that buying a specific model ie a 1d makes you a pro then canon obviously doesn't agree. A built in battery grip can be useful to many people not only "pros" even though most pros I know use the 5d series not the 1d series. Take The Apple iMac this was never previously considered a "pro" computer but now I bet more pros are using it than the Mac PRO. By the way I say this from a point of privaliged knowledge. Anyway thank you canon and bring it on, I own a 5d3 but it seems this new line up may finally kill my desire for the Nikon 810. In my opinion following the sony model of giving us choice in a range and not trying to make a one size fits all camera is spot on.

 

[mark99]

What disappoints me is the smoke and mirrors from canon.
Just admit defeat, the sensor technology has fallen so far behind Nikon and Sony that they are not even in that race any more.
They jumped up and down about video, so Nikon stuck out 60fps 1080 and sony have 4k video.
Now they are obviously cap in hand to Sony begging a place back at the sensor technology top table.
Fair enough, they are so far behind Nikon on ISO and clarity that they had no choice, they were never going to get close let alone catch up.
Even the archaic d700 absolutely hammers anything Canon have on ISO and the D3s show the 1DX up as a bad joke on a bad day.
But they have to do this handy capping of cameras thing all the time, buy this one to do that, that one to do this.

Do they really think people will buy 3 or 4 cameras just to have all the features.
This company is obviously staffed by complete idiots, they were out of the Press end of cameras 5 years ago, only die hard fools use Canon gear on Press work.

Now they get a seat at the top table again and what do they do ?
Slice the cake they have been given, 5fps ? oh come on, just make a Flaming camera that works as good as a camera possibly can and stop this dividing and spreading bits around multiple cameras.
Nikon make 1 camera that does it all, Canon you need 3 bodies to get the same technology.
FFS, stop it and sack these idiots in the marketing department.
Stop over pricing as well and you might actually sell some.


Bingo ? Bingo ? A line when yin get a full house from Nikon .

 

[Eldar]

What disappoints me is the smoke and mirrors from canon.
Just admit defeat, the sensor technology has fallen so far behind Nikon and Sony that they are not even in that race any more.
They jumped up and down about video, so Nikon stuck out 60fps 1080 and sony have 4k video.
Now they are obviously cap in hand to Sony begging a place back at the sensor technology top table.
Fair enough, they are so far behind Nikon on ISO and clarity that they had no choice, they were never going to get close let alone catch up.
Even the archaic d700 absolutely hammers anything Canon have on ISO and the D3s show the 1DX up as a bad joke on a bad day.
But they have to do this handy capping of cameras thing all the time, buy this one to do that, that one to do this.

Do they really think people will buy 3 or 4 cameras just to have all the features.
This company is obviously staffed by complete idiots, they were out of the Press end of cameras 5 years ago, only die hard fools use Canon gear on Press work.

Now they get a seat at the top table again and what do they do ?
Slice the cake they have been given, 5fps ? oh come on, just make a Flaming camera that works as good as a camera possibly can and stop this dividing and spreading bits around multiple cameras.
Nikon make 1 camera that does it all, Canon you need 3 bodies to get the same technology.
FFS, stop it and sack these idiots in the marketing department.
Stop over pricing as well and you might actually sell some.


Bingo ? Bingo ? A line when yin get a full house from Nikon .

Splendid first post. Totally off reality and well in the tradition of our good old Sweedish friend ...

 

[Creative69]

What disappoints me is the smoke and mirrors from canon.
Just admit defeat, the sensor technology has fallen so far behind Nikon and Sony that they are not even in that race any more.
They jumped up and down about video, so Nikon stuck out 60fps 1080 and sony have 4k video.
Now they are obviously cap in hand to Sony begging a place back at the sensor technology top table.
Fair enough, they are so far behind Nikon on ISO and clarity that they had no choice, they were never going to get close let alone catch up.
Even the archaic d700 absolutely hammers anything Canon have on ISO and the D3s show the 1DX up as a bad joke on a bad day.
But they have to do this handy capping of cameras thing all the time, buy this one to do that, that one to do this.

Do they really think people will buy 3 or 4 cameras just to have all the features.
This company is obviously staffed by complete idiots, they were out of the Press end of cameras 5 years ago, only die hard fools use Canon gear on Press work.

Now they get a seat at the top table again and what do they do ?
Slice the cake they have been given, 5fps ? oh come on, just make a Flaming camera that works as good as a camera possibly can and stop this dividing and spreading bits around multiple cameras.
Nikon make 1 camera that does it all, Canon you need 3 bodies to get the same technology.
FFS, stop it and sack these idiots in the marketing department.
Stop over pricing as well and you might actually sell some.


Bingo ? Bingo ? A line when yin get a full house from Nikon .

Maybe you have signed up to slag of Canon and it's users which is your prerogative but doesn't take away from the fact that me and my customers are very happy with the results coming from my Canon equipment. Of course of that's not why your in the game then I see how simply comparing features from one brand to another may be appealing to you. I personally don't want or need a camera that can do it all as you put it, it even grieves me that I payed a premium for my 5d mk3 video features because I will never use them. Don't be fooled most people here know that as much slagging off of Nikon and Sony goes on at the respective forum so just rejoice in the fact we have choice and if one brand doesn't float your boat you can trot off to another. I'm loving my Canon kit and if that makes me a blind fan boy who's getting paid so be it.

 

[stargate]

a camera is a tool we use to bring our internal vision / idea / story into a tangible creation for ourselves or for others to view and experience. I have never seen one tool that could do all things to that end. different cameras for different reasons and outcomes. just as we do lenses. soon we will have one more option to our creative ends. that has to be a good thing

 

[mb66energy]

[...]

Do they really think people will buy 3 or 4 cameras just to have all the features.
This company is obviously staffed by complete idiots, they were out of the Press end of cameras 5 years ago, only die hard fools use Canon gear on Press work.

[...]

If you need ONE camera to do it all -- 50 MPix, 4k @ 60Hz and 6k @ 24 Hz with 12 fps and 100 AF points -- you will end up with a 12000 €/$ camera which is out of reach for mortals. There live a lot of people in this world who like photography. Some like birding and sports - others like landscape or macro. If you can fullfill the needs of those "specialists" at 3000 €/$ - why not?
Having two or three bodies has a lot more bang for the bucks sometimes: Think about a 5Ds with a wide angle and an 1Dx with 70-200 ... without changing lenses you are prepared for nearly anything

Idiots? Because they deliver very good tools at reasonable prices for those who like to shoot photos (and not so comparing specs or peeping for pixel quality)?

 

[SPL]

Trolls.....

 

[Stu_bert]

What disappoints me is the smoke and mirrors from canon.
Just admit defeat, the sensor technology has fallen so far behind Nikon and Sony that they are not even in that race any more.
They jumped up and down about video, so Nikon stuck out 60fps 1080 and sony have 4k video.
Now they are obviously cap in hand to Sony begging a place back at the sensor technology top table.
Fair enough, they are so far behind Nikon on ISO and clarity that they had no choice, they were never going to get close let alone catch up.
Even the archaic d700 absolutely hammers anything Canon have on ISO and the D3s show the 1DX up as a bad joke on a bad day.
But they have to do this handy capping of cameras thing all the time, buy this one to do that, that one to do this.

Do they really think people will buy 3 or 4 cameras just to have all the features.
This company is obviously staffed by complete idiots, they were out of the Press end of cameras 5 years ago, only die hard fools use Canon gear on Press work.

Now they get a seat at the top table again and what do they do ?
Slice the cake they have been given, 5fps ? oh come on, just make a Flaming camera that works as good as a camera possibly can and stop this dividing and spreading bits around multiple cameras.
Nikon make 1 camera that does it all, Canon you need 3 bodies to get the same technology.
FFS, stop it and sack these idiots in the marketing department.
Stop over pricing as well and you might actually sell some.


Bingo ? Bingo ? A line when yin get a full house from Nikon .

oh dear. Everyone on this forum believes everyone have the right to express their view, but you might find people a little bit more receptive and prepared to discuss your points when you are a little more measured in your comments. if you're a Nikon user and you're trying to highlight their benefits, to attract Canonites to convert, you may want to reconsider your approach.

I'm sure a lot of people get frustrated at Canon's policies, but I doubt few on this forum have experience of running a large division like Nikon's or Canon's and therefore can speak with any authority.

 

[Orangutan]

What disappoints me is the smoke and mirrors from canon.
Just admit defeat, the sensor technology has fallen so far behind Nikon and Sony that they are not even in that race any more.
They jumped up and down about video, so Nikon stuck out 60fps 1080 and sony have 4k video.
Now they are obviously cap in hand to Sony begging a place back at the sensor technology top table.
Fair enough, they are so far behind Nikon on ISO and clarity that they had no choice, they were never going to get close let alone catch up.
Even the archaic d700 absolutely hammers anything Canon have on ISO and the D3s show the 1DX up as a bad joke on a bad day.
But they have to do this handy capping of cameras thing all the time, buy this one to do that, that one to do this.

Do they really think people will buy 3 or 4 cameras just to have all the features.
This company is obviously staffed by complete idiots, they were out of the Press end of cameras 5 years ago, only die hard fools use Canon gear on Press work.

Now they get a seat at the top table again and what do they do ?
Slice the cake they have been given, 5fps ? oh come on, just make a Flaming camera that works as good as a camera possibly can and stop this dividing and spreading bits around multiple cameras.
Nikon make 1 camera that does it all, Canon you need 3 bodies to get the same technology.
FFS, stop it and sack these idiots in the marketing department.
Stop over pricing as well and you might actually sell some.


Bingo ? Bingo ? A line when yin get a full house from Nikon .

Dear Mark99,

You may not be aware of it, so I bring to your attention the fact that on the Internet you may find anything you need. In your case, you will want to avail yourself of the very low-cost Trolling lessons, which can be found in both audio and video formats, smartphone apps, as well old-school text format. Your above writing sample strongly indicates you should start with a remedial course in Trolling.

Orangutan

 

[lintoni]

What disappoints me is the smoke and mirrors from canon.
Just admit defeat, the sensor technology has fallen so far behind Nikon and Sony that they are not even in that race any more.
They jumped up and down about video, so Nikon stuck out 60fps 1080 and sony have 4k video.
Now they are obviously cap in hand to Sony begging a place back at the sensor technology top table.
Fair enough, they are so far behind Nikon on ISO and clarity that they had no choice, they were never going to get close let alone catch up.
Even the archaic d700 absolutely hammers anything Canon have on ISO and the D3s show the 1DX up as a bad joke on a bad day.
But they have to do this handy capping of cameras thing all the time, buy this one to do that, that one to do this.

Do they really think people will buy 3 or 4 cameras just to have all the features.
This company is obviously staffed by complete idiots, they were out of the Press end of cameras 5 years ago, only die hard fools use Canon gear on Press work.

Now they get a seat at the top table again and what do they do ?
Slice the cake they have been given, 5fps ? oh come on, just make a Flaming camera that works as good as a camera possibly can and stop this dividing and spreading bits around multiple cameras.
Nikon make 1 camera that does it all, Canon you need 3 bodies to get the same technology.
FFS, stop it and sack these idiots in the marketing department.
Stop over pricing as well and you might actually sell some.


Bingo ? Bingo ? A line when yin get a full house from Nikon .

Dear Mark99,

You may not be aware of it, so I bring to your attention the fact that on the Internet you may find anything you need. In your case, you will want to avail yourself of the very low-cost Trolling lessons, which can be found in both audio and video formats, smartphone apps, as well old-school text format. Your above writing sample strongly indicates you should start with a remedial course in Trolling.

Orangutan

You shouldn't mock the handy capped!

 

[Lawliet]

So the 100mm 2.2 for Hasselblad and the manual focus 85 or 90mm 1.9 from Mamiya transform roughly into f/1.0

More like the f/1.2s , depending on how you round to get that number.
And the sensor format, of course - being able to change that just as easy as the lens shouldn't be forgotten
The limited availability of larger then 645 sensors is annoying though.

 

[takesome1]

What disappoints me is the smoke and mirrors from canon.
Just admit defeat, the sensor technology has fallen so far behind Nikon and Sony that they are not even in that race any more.
They jumped up and down about video, so Nikon stuck out 60fps 1080 and sony have 4k video.
Now they are obviously cap in hand to Sony begging a place back at the sensor technology top table.
Fair enough, they are so far behind Nikon on ISO and clarity that they had no choice, they were never going to get close let alone catch up.
Even the archaic d700 absolutely hammers anything Canon have on ISO and the D3s show the 1DX up as a bad joke on a bad day.
But they have to do this handy capping of cameras thing all the time, buy this one to do that, that one to do this.

Do they really think people will buy 3 or 4 cameras just to have all the features.
This company is obviously staffed by complete idiots, they were out of the Press end of cameras 5 years ago, only die hard fools use Canon gear on Press work.

Now they get a seat at the top table again and what do they do ?
Slice the cake they have been given, 5fps ? oh come on, just make a Flaming camera that works as good as a camera possibly can and stop this dividing and spreading bits around multiple cameras.
Nikon make 1 camera that does it all, Canon you need 3 bodies to get the same technology.
FFS, stop it and sack these idiots in the marketing department.
Stop over pricing as well and you might actually sell some.


Bingo ? Bingo ? A line when yin get a full house from Nikon .

Dear Mark99,

You may not be aware of it, so I bring to your attention the fact that on the Internet you may find anything you need. In your case, you will want to avail yourself of the very low-cost Trolling lessons, which can be found in both audio and video formats, smartphone apps, as well old-school text format. Your above writing sample strongly indicates you should start with a remedial course in Trolling.

Orangutan

He was somewhat successful in that he has several responses.
However they were probably not the responses he was hoping for.
He is bashing a camera that is still a rumor, that is pretty silly.

I think you took the correct approach. We should feel sorry for him and offer advice on how to become a better troll.

Lesson #1 would be attack products that already exist and people own, not products that are still rumors.