Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs

[rrcphoto]

These cameras are built for studio and landscape. Period. So it seems. Check out the newer post with a 5D4 coming later this year

I wouldn't say that .. 61 point AF and ISO 6400 will work well in alot of cases as well.

if they've implemented faster fps with the crop modes aka nikon - then it could be a very well rounded body.

19MP at 1.6 crop. that's pretty sweet.

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: WIFI, ***?

I wonder why the list does not mention wifi or ***. I find it difficult to imagine it will not have wifi at least (especially after Canon said that improved interconnectivity was one of the ways they wanted to regain lost DSLR sales).

depends on the chassis - the specs say full mag alloy. it may have *** aka 7DII but probably not wifi. canon's implementation of wifi requires some part of the body to have a plastic chassis component.

 

[jebrady03]

both the first global shutter rumor (i gave me the name KAI) and then the sony canon partnership was send in by me.

both websites where happy to report this pure fantasy..

i still roll on the floor laughing....

Wow... you managed to troll a rumors website. You must be proud. How about you throw that accomplishment on your resume and tell all of your friends and family so everyone who actually might matter knows what to think of you.

 

[BrianPowell]

Wow you guys are missing the point.

The 50mp body with 6400iso is for people shooting for print and likely using their own lighting or shooting in perfectly fine natural light.

It's not for wedding and event shooters.
The 5Dmk4 will be the next 5D for low light shooters.

What I'm curious about is where all the video upgrades go... assuming the mk4.

 

[Marsu42]

On the topic "which version to get" that is with or without AA filter

I'm sure we'll see a couple of hundred threads in the future on this issue

I'm curious about the Dual Digic6? Isn't the dual chip usually implemented for higher FPS or something?

At the 50mp data rate, 5 fps *is* "high" fps!

Really like the idea of crop modes (assuming full RAW) but if the top ISO is only 6400 in crop mode, and how could it not be, that would be a half empty.

Fyi: On current cameras, iso 6400 is the highest setting *anyway* - everything above is more or less digitally amplified, so you can just shoot raw and underexpose. But as no one realizes, it will enable Canon selling both the 5ds and 5d4.

 

[JonAustin]

Re: WIFI, ***?

I wonder why the list does not mention wifi or ***. I find it difficult to imagine it will not have wifi at least (especially after Canon said that improved interconnectivity was one of the ways they wanted to regain lost DSLR sales).

depends on the chassis - the specs say full mag alloy. it may have *** aka 7DII but probably not wifi. canon's implementation of wifi requires some part of the body to have a plastic chassis component.

Not necessarily so. I think you're confusing body with chassis. The WiFi antenna would of course be placed within the body, but not inside the chassis.

 

[InterMurph]

When comparing a new camera to the 5D3, I think it's reasonable to ask for better low-light performance, or higher pixel count, but not both.

This camera has more than twice as many pixels as the 5D3. If it were built with the same sensor technology, we should expect it to be about 1 stop worse on low-light performance. That is, a shot at ISO 400 on the 5DS would look like a shot at ISO 800 from the 5D3.

We can hope that advanced sensor technology could cancel out that disadvantage, and bring the 5DS low-light performance back to the level of the 5D3. But I think it's ridiculous to expect better low-light performance from this new camera.

If low-light performance is the most important thing to you, I suggest you check out the Sony a7S. It's a full-frame sensor with just 12 megapixels. Those pixels are HUGE, and this camera can effectively see in the dark.

If you want to stick with Canon, then the 5D4 is your best hope; similar pixel density to the 5D3, but with improved low-light performance.

 

[Light_Pilgrim]

Hello all,
I am a new users here. I have been reading this forum for many years, but never bothered to register. Well...there is something that made me register today - it is the rumor about the new high MP camera from Canon and the reaction from people.

It is no secret that people are hard to please. Let me tell you one thing, Professional and serious amateurs in the field of Landscape, portrait, architecture and studio photography will buy this camera like mad.

I am the one. I only do Landscapes and portraits (www.lightpilgrim.com) and this camera has everything I need:
1. Most probably a very clean ISO 100 - this is what I use 100% of the time for landscapes
2. Very good DR and plenty of details - I am dreaming about it for landscapes
3. I will be able to print images that have more details and that are sharper

I am perfectly happy with 5 FPS - I am probably going to be happy with 1 FPS for landscapes
I have never done anything beyond ISO 3200 simply because I only want to have top quality, clean images.
I started with 40D, then I went to 5D MKII and then to 5D MKIII and I never used video. I am just this kind of guy that needs a perfect tool for landscapes and portraits...I am not dwelling on things that I did not use or needed for years.

I think there are many people like me....

So I personally want to thank Canon. I will wait for review and I think I am getting this camera.

 

[Maiaibing]

Re: WIFI, ***?

I wonder why the list does not mention wifi or ***. I find it difficult to imagine it will not have wifi at least (especially after Canon said that improved interconnectivity was one of the ways they wanted to regain lost DSLR sales).

depends on the chassis - the specs say full mag alloy. it may have *** aka 7DII but probably not wifi. canon's implementation of wifi requires some part of the body to have a plastic chassis component.

Thanks. I'll study this closer.

I'd personally prefer *** over WIFI. But it would in my view be a mistake for Canon not to have wifi when it has functions such as intervalometer - how is that going to work (efficiently)?? Would also be unhappy not to be able to control the camera remotely (without buying clumsy $$$ accessories).

 

[canonvoir]

Hmmmm... 5 fps... I do a lot of wildlife as well as everything else... 5fps is not quite there.... 6 is ok...

Lets see what it is like and the reviews! It is not as though i gun it all that much anyway!

5 fps for a 50MP camera? I think it sounds pretty dang good. Besides, this isn't a 5D iii successor. It is a totally different camera for completely different uses. Impressive if I say so myself.

 

[Lee Jay]

If, as I suspect, such a camera is aimed firmly at 'detail' photographers, then it will elicit howls of derision from many quarters.

If ISO only going to 6400 means that results are better at 100, then so be it.

One has essentially nothing to do with the other.

Does DPAF contribute to image quality at base ISO, or hinder it?

Helps, if done right. Think ML dual ISO done with separate sensors in each pixel.

 

[Luds34]

If, as I suspect, such a camera is aimed firmly at 'detail' photographers, then it will elicit howls of derision from many quarters.

If ISO only going to 6400 means that results are better at 100, then so be it.

Does DPAF contribute to image quality at base ISO, or hinder it? If the later, then I'd not miss it one jot (particularly given the amount of manual focus shots I take).

If the design effort has gone into making a top notch stills camera rather than a glorified camcorder, then I applaud it.

Hopefully a whizzo 5D4 will be along before too long to keep the naysayers happy* ;-)

*A forlorn hope, almost by definition ;-)

Well said!

This is a specialized camera that will appeal to a smaller audience. I think a "jack of all trades" 5D mark IV will follow later this year as well.

 

[ewg963]

Anyone want to guess on the price?

Great question dilbert hummmmmmmmmmm.....

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

wow, i don't get it. to me these specs look good, real good especially if they get the sensor right (and for a beast like this they better because if it doesn't come with some serious high quality at the low ISO's and more DR, then it should just be a jack of all trades camera).

what I don't get though is how many negative comments here. It's like the past 2.5 years of canon rumors posts and posts just flipped over to the bizarro world. For 2.5 years - sonikon has XXX MP"S and sonikon has XX DR - and how canon FF bodies are only suitable for FB selfies and kneel and pray to exmor, oh holy exmor. Now we hear of this ---and yes this is a rumo spec list - no cr rating at all and the majority of posts want ---high iso and low light capabilities????? REALLY???? Did the past 2.5 years just happen or did I blink while the majority of folks here had their priorities change??? Get a grip people!!!

Rant aside - this does look pretty sweet. I can't wait to see what the actual specs are, and yes, I want to see sample images. Even as a wedding shooter, I can see many uses for this kind of beast - engagement shoots, bride and groom portraits, first dance, ring shots.

the only thing to not like about this is that it does mean I probably won't be able to sell either of my other bodies - because for the ceremony I will still most likely need the 5d3/6d combo (I shoot lots of primes so I do need 2 low light capable bodies), which is fine. Oh darn I'll have 3 nice bodies by the end of the year, I know - terrible right?

 

[CaptureWhatYouSee]

To me, the specs are not bad. Is it the same size body as the 5DIII? If so, I would have to wait for this sensor in the 6d...

 

[candyman]

...........

It is no secret that people are hard to please. Let me tell you one thing, Professional and serious amateurs in the field of Landscape, portrait, architecture and studio photography will buy this camera like mad.

I am the one. I only do Landscapes and portraits (www.lightpilgrim.com) and this camera has everything I need:
1. Most probably a very clean ISO 100 - this is what I use 100% of the time for landscapes
2. Very good DR and plenty of details - I am dreaming about it for landscapes
3. I will be able to print images that have more details and that are sharper

.............

I think there are many people like me....

............

This is the target group. You're right. The right specs for this group.
BTW absolutely great photos that you do!


And, welcome to CR!

 

[Maiaibing]

What I think is upsetting people is that this camera isn't being aimed at action photography or low light photography AND has a huge number of megapixels.

Time will tell. It could easily have quite a lot more mpix and fps than the 5DIII (30 mpix w/1.3 crop @8 fps). Certainly the processing power is there.

 

[PureClassA]

Action Camera... Thats what the 7D2 and 1 Series are for. Cant deride the 5 Series for not being what it was never really intended for. Not saying it cant be, but its not designed to be the best at that.

 

[Lee Jay]

what I don't get though is how many negative comments here. It's like the past 2.5 years of canon rumors posts and posts just flipped over to the bizarro world. For 2.5 years - sonikon has XXX MP"S and sonikon has XX DR - and how canon FF bodies are only suitable for FB selfies and kneel and pray to exmor, oh holy exmor. Now we hear of this ---and yes this is a rumo spec list - no cr rating at all and the majority of posts want ---high iso and low light capabilities????? REALLY???? Did the past 2.5 years just happen or did I blink while the majority of folks here had their priorities change??? Get a grip people!!!

I've wanted a high pixel count sensor (with cropping options) forever, but base ISO DR means essentially nothing to me. My 550D has plenty of base ISO DR. I do want dual pixel. The whole reason I want full-frame is for better low-light performance.

If the specs are true, this camera meets only one of my required specifications for such a camera (high pixel count with cropping) and fails at the others (better low-light, dual pixel).

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: WIFI, ***?

I wonder why the list does not mention wifi or ***. I find it difficult to imagine it will not have wifi at least (especially after Canon said that improved interconnectivity was one of the ways they wanted to regain lost DSLR sales).

depends on the chassis - the specs say full mag alloy. it may have *** aka 7DII but probably not wifi. canon's implementation of wifi requires some part of the body to have a plastic chassis component.

Thanks. I'll study this closer.

I'd personally prefer *** over WIFI. But it would in my view be a mistake for Canon not to have wifi when it has functions such as intervalometer - how is that going to work (efficiently)?? Would also be unhappy not to be able to control the camera remotely (without buying clumsy $$$ accessories).

not sure why a intervalometer has anything to do with wifi. you set up the camera's intervalometer and let it run?

it would still use all the same remote accessories that canon has used since the dawn of time including USB tethering. and there's third party wifi support if you really really really really need it.