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Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs

I don't know if most people here are just stupid or just trolling?

This camera is not for everybody.
This is mainly a camera for:
- Landscape
- Studio
- Portrait

In which you often don't need 14fps, ISO 104 000 or something similiar.
What you need is good color accurancy, high megapixel, a lot of focus-points.

This camera is superb! I can't wait to get one in my hands.

When Canon 5d mk IV comes along, there will be better ISO, FPS etc but not that high mpix.
But even then. .some trolls will complain about a lot of things again.. sigh..
 
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fiend said:
I don't know if most people here are just stupid or just trolling?

This camera is not for everybody.
This is mainly a camera for:
- Landscape
- Studio
- Portrait

In which you often don't need 14fps, ISO 104 000 or something similiar.
What you need is good color accurancy, high megapixel, a lot of focus-points.

This camera is superb! I can't wait to get one in my hands.

When Canon 5d mk IV comes along, there will be better ISO, FPS etc but not that high mpix.
But even then. .some trolls will complain about a lot of things again.. sigh..

Grateful people are hard to find these days. You would think their dismissive attitudes would stem from their technical expertise in being able to make their own digital cameras in their tool shed.

I think it's really great news that Canon is bringing back the legacy of the 1dsiii line, in an even smaller package. Should be a stunning machine matched with the new 11-24!
 
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I truly wonder if all these folks that go off about DR actually pay attention to Subject Brightness Range and Zones. You can chat all you want but does your work reflect actual attention to detail and texture in a wide Zone range say 3-7 at the very least?
 
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Light_Pilgrim said:
Hello all,
I am a new users here. I have been reading this forum for many years, but never bothered to register. Well...there is something that made me register today - it is the rumor about the new high MP camera from Canon and the reaction from people.

It is no secret that people are hard to please. Let me tell you one thing, Professional and serious amateurs in the field of Landscape, portrait, architecture and studio photography will buy this camera like mad.

I am the one. I only do Landscapes and portraits (www.lightpilgrim.com) and this camera has everything I need:
1. Most probably a very clean ISO 100 - this is what I use 100% of the time for landscapes
2. Very good DR and plenty of details - I am dreaming about it for landscapes
3. I will be able to print images that have more details and that are sharper

I am perfectly happy with 5 FPS - I am probably going to be happy with 1 FPS for landscapes:-)
I have never done anything beyond ISO 3200 simply because I only want to have top quality, clean images.
I started with 40D, then I went to 5D MKII and then to 5D MKIII and I never used video. I am just this kind of guy that needs a perfect tool for landscapes and portraits...I am not dwelling on things that I did not use or needed for years.

I think there are many people like me....

So I personally want to thank Canon. I will wait for review and I think I am getting this camera.
Welcome
 
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Also, the D800 was ISO 100-6400. Even then the 36MP sensor is being pushed from ISO 1600 to gain its "native" ISO values. Not many people complained about the high ISO on that when sampled at the same size as lower MP and higher ISO sensors. I'm not 100% sure about eh D810, but I would assume it also pushes a lower native ISO to gain the claimed "native" ISO levels.

If the ISO 6400 has tons of DR and is pretty clean, then pushing to 12,800 should not even be a issue.
 
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fiend said:
This camera is not for everybody.
This is mainly a camera for:
- Landscape
- Studio
- Portrait

Are you saying that wildlife and bird photographers will not be able to appreciate the increased resolution, improved color, dust and weather sealing? I would think it would work nicely on my 500mm.

And I have yet to see any one mentionn this about the crop function. Sure 5 fps at 50mp makes sense, the processors will probably not handle more than that. But how about in crop mode where the files will be smaller? Why couldn't you have a body that could deliver 10 fps in crop mode?
 
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takesome1 said:
fiend said:
This camera is not for everybody.
This is mainly a camera for:
- Landscape
- Studio
- Portrait

Are you saying that wildlife and bird photographers will not be able to appreciate the increased resolution, improved color, dust and weather sealing? I would think it would work nicely on my 500mm.

And I have yet to see any one mentionn this about the crop function. Sure 5 fps at 50mp makes sense, the processors will probably not handle more than that. But how about in crop mode where the files will be smaller? Why couldn't you have a body that could deliver 10 fps in crop mode?

Bingo. We simply are speculating. those 1.3 and 1.6 crop modes certainly open up the data flow for higher FPS. Maybe not 10, but 7-8? I doubt they put a mirror and shutter system in this body equivalent to a 1 series Action cam.
 
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Lee Jay said:
takesome1 said:
Why couldn't you have a body that could deliver 10 fps in crop mode?

Because you'd need a very fast mirror assembly. If it has that, then fine. If not...you can't do it.

Often over the course of DSLR history the processing speed in a large part dictated the fps.
Keep in mind mirror assemblies that could put out high fps in a full frame body is old technology.
It would make this camera an all in one body.
 
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takesome1 said:
Lee Jay said:
takesome1 said:
Why couldn't you have a body that could deliver 10 fps in crop mode?

Because you'd need a very fast mirror assembly. If it has that, then fine. If not...you can't do it.

Often over the course of DSLR history the processing speed in a large part dictated the fps.
Keep in mind mirror assemblies that could put out high fps in a full frame body is old technology.
It would make this camera an all in one body.

Yes, we have fast mirror assemblies, in some cameras (1Dx).

No, this wouldn't make it an all-in-one body, at least without dual-pixel and high ISOs. These pixels are the size of those in the 7DII, and that camera goes to ISO 16,000. There no reason I can think of that this camera shouldn't do the same.
 
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Lee Jay said:
Chuck Alaimo said:
what I don't get though is how many negative comments here. It's like the past 2.5 years of canon rumors posts and posts just flipped over to the bizarro world. For 2.5 years - sonikon has XXX MP"S and sonikon has XX DR - and how canon FF bodies are only suitable for FB selfies and kneel and pray to exmor, oh holy exmor. Now we hear of this ---and yes this is a rumo spec list - no cr rating at all and the majority of posts want ---high iso and low light capabilities????? REALLY???? Did the past 2.5 years just happen or did I blink while the majority of folks here had their priorities change??? Get a grip people!!!

I've wanted a high pixel count sensor (with cropping options) forever, but base ISO DR means essentially nothing to me. My 550D has plenty of base ISO DR. I do want dual pixel. The whole reason I want full-frame is for better low-light performance.

If the specs are true, this camera meets only one of my required specifications for such a camera (high pixel count with cropping) and fails at the others (better low-light, dual pixel).

if this is true then snag yourself a 5d3 or 6d and shoot away! if dual pixel is an absolute need, then get a 7d2, or, wait until the next group of FF bodies is released. DPAF is a new tech, it's only in 2 bodies so it's time to get whats thee or wait. But if like you say -- "The whole reason I want full-frame is for better low-light performance," then stop complaining and grab a cheap 6d or a 5d3. This new beast is a specialized beast ---and yeah, I'd rather have a specialized beast if it kicks butt in what it's made to do rather than a crippled beast that had huge files and crazy iso's but no improvement at the base ISO's ----now that would be a FAIL!
 
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Sounds like Canon is moving towards specialty DSLR's rather than a one size fits all.
These two should please the landscape and studio photographer while the mk iv might
Be geared towards action/wildlife, leaving my lowly 6D as just an entry level camera :-)

Only wish the mk iv comes out close on the heals of the 5Ds.
 
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Chuck Alaimo said:
Lee Jay said:
Chuck Alaimo said:
what I don't get though is how many negative comments here. It's like the past 2.5 years of canon rumors posts and posts just flipped over to the bizarro world. For 2.5 years - sonikon has XXX MP"S and sonikon has XX DR - and how canon FF bodies are only suitable for FB selfies and kneel and pray to exmor, oh holy exmor. Now we hear of this ---and yes this is a rumo spec list - no cr rating at all and the majority of posts want ---high iso and low light capabilities????? REALLY???? Did the past 2.5 years just happen or did I blink while the majority of folks here had their priorities change??? Get a grip people!!!

I've wanted a high pixel count sensor (with cropping options) forever, but base ISO DR means essentially nothing to me. My 550D has plenty of base ISO DR. I do want dual pixel. The whole reason I want full-frame is for better low-light performance.

If the specs are true, this camera meets only one of my required specifications for such a camera (high pixel count with cropping) and fails at the others (better low-light, dual pixel).

if this is true then snag yourself a 5d3 or 6d and shoot away!

No, that wouldn't solve the problem (undersampling) that a higher pixel count would solve.
if dual pixel is an absolute need, then get a 7d2, or, wait until the next group of FF bodies is released. DPAF is a new tech, it's only in 2 bodies so it's time to get whats thee or wait. But if like you say -- "The whole reason I want full-frame is for better low-light performance," then stop complaining and grab a cheap 6d or a 5d3. This new beast is a specialized beast ---and yeah, I'd rather have a specialized beast if it kicks butt in what it's made to do rather than a crippled beast that had huge files and crazy iso's but no improvement at the base ISO's ----now that would be a FAIL!

Frankly, dual-pixel has the capability to improve base ISO DR more than any of Sony's sensor technology. Using dual pixels and simultaneous different exposure has the ability to get you to 20 stops with 7DII pixels and nothing but software.

And I still think base ISO DR is a relatively unimportant parameter.
 
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