Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
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AA said:Hmmm, still no features like:
- touch screen
- GPS
- Wi-Fi
- NFC
- fast AF in live view
- pop-up flash
I guess Canon believes only people who pay less than $1,000 for a camera deserve those. (Or those who leave them and go Sony.) The more you pay, the less you get. Makes sense, right?
And please don't come with the usual BS "only amateurs need those features" crap. The touch screen on the new 5500D can be used to pick focus points with your thumb when not even in live view. In ten years, every pro camera will have those features. A pro camera should be just as easy to use as a smartphone camera. As long as that's not the case, volumes will keep falling like they have since the first iPhone came out. and CaNikon deserve it.
Seems as though this camera is going after the Pro Studio market, type of people using Medium format cameras now. No use for pop up flash in a studio and same goes for GPS. Wifi and nfc would be pointless because you can tether it to a laptop which is always close in a pro studio setup and allows greater control.
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Interesting about the ISO, but for this particular camera (5Ds...studio camera, pplz! ;P), I truly don't think it matters. It's got a good mp count and the nice big frame, which should be better for landscapes. I really couldn't care about much more than ISO 800 tops for landscapes.
The only thing I really care about is...what's the read noise? Did Canon fix their DR issues, or not? If not, then I still don't care if it's 50mp, 80mp, or 100mp...I'd still get a D810.
The only thing I really care about is...what's the read noise? Did Canon fix their DR issues, or not? If not, then I still don't care if it's 50mp, 80mp, or 100mp...I'd still get a D810.
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I Really like the direction Canon is going with this.
Below are my predictions!!
1,) 5DS and 5DS R for high megapixel/DR Landscape/Studio work at lower ISO's. Available in the Spring.
2.) 24-28mp 5D mk4 (Canon Sensor with adequate DR slightly improved ISO from old 5D3) that's the jack of all trades with 8 frames/sec & 1.3/1.6 crop modes with true 1DX Autofocus (61pt 1DX AF > 61 pt 5Diii AF). I'm OK with this camera having a minimum of the 7Dii's video capabilities (1080p/60 & no touchscreen). Available in the Fall.
3.) And finally a 6Dii with the A7S's 12mp high ISO sensitivity sensor with 70d swivel touchscreen with 19 cross type sensors all cluttered in the middle. Full Polycarbonate body to keep costs down and capable of some kind of limited 4K video. OF course no headphone out jack and single SD card slot. Available in the Fall with the 5D4 or Winter of 2015.
4.) New 1D series that is Mirrorless that can shoot 20-30 fps with similar to the Sony's A6000's 179+ AF points (but better)???
Below are my predictions!!
1,) 5DS and 5DS R for high megapixel/DR Landscape/Studio work at lower ISO's. Available in the Spring.
2.) 24-28mp 5D mk4 (Canon Sensor with adequate DR slightly improved ISO from old 5D3) that's the jack of all trades with 8 frames/sec & 1.3/1.6 crop modes with true 1DX Autofocus (61pt 1DX AF > 61 pt 5Diii AF). I'm OK with this camera having a minimum of the 7Dii's video capabilities (1080p/60 & no touchscreen). Available in the Fall.
3.) And finally a 6Dii with the A7S's 12mp high ISO sensitivity sensor with 70d swivel touchscreen with 19 cross type sensors all cluttered in the middle. Full Polycarbonate body to keep costs down and capable of some kind of limited 4K video. OF course no headphone out jack and single SD card slot. Available in the Fall with the 5D4 or Winter of 2015.
4.) New 1D series that is Mirrorless that can shoot 20-30 fps with similar to the Sony's A6000's 179+ AF points (but better)???
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The latest update from Canonwatch:
50.6MP full-size CMOS sensor (53MP total count)
5DS R is without low-pass filter
Magnesium alloy body
Dust and water sealed
Dual processor DIGIC6
Regular sensitivity ISO 100-6400, expand to 12800
Continuous shooting 5 frames / sec.
High precision 61-point AF, 41 cross type
EOS iTR AF
150,000 pixel RGB + IR photometry sensor
Added “fine detail” to the Picture Style
1.3x and 1.6x crop shooting mode
Customizable “Quick Control Screen”
Time-lapse movie
Anti-flicker
Interval Timer
Bulb timer
No headphone terminal
No DAF
No HDMI output for video (clean out). Not to compete with 5D III other video features are same.
The source also stated that the sensor is made by Canon using a new CMOS manufacturing process.
So, who's first to pre-order one?
50.6MP full-size CMOS sensor (53MP total count)
5DS R is without low-pass filter
Magnesium alloy body
Dust and water sealed
Dual processor DIGIC6
Regular sensitivity ISO 100-6400, expand to 12800
Continuous shooting 5 frames / sec.
High precision 61-point AF, 41 cross type
EOS iTR AF
150,000 pixel RGB + IR photometry sensor
Added “fine detail” to the Picture Style
1.3x and 1.6x crop shooting mode
Customizable “Quick Control Screen”
Time-lapse movie
Anti-flicker
Interval Timer
Bulb timer
No headphone terminal
No DAF
No HDMI output for video (clean out). Not to compete with 5D III other video features are same.
The source also stated that the sensor is made by Canon using a new CMOS manufacturing process.
So, who's first to pre-order one?
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Light_Pilgrim said:Hello all,
I am a new users here. I have been reading this forum for many years, but never bothered to register. Well...there is something that made me register today - it is the rumor about the new high MP camera from Canon and the reaction from people.
It is no secret that people are hard to please. Let me tell you one thing, Professional and serious amateurs in the field of Landscape, portrait, architecture and studio photography will buy this camera like mad.
I am the one. I only do Landscapes and portraits (www.lightpilgrim.com) and this camera has everything I need:
1. Most probably a very clean ISO 100 - this is what I use 100% of the time for landscapes
2. Very good DR and plenty of details - I am dreaming about it for landscapes
3. I will be able to print images that have more details and that are sharper
I am perfectly happy with 5 FPS - I am probably going to be happy with 1 FPS for landscapes
I have never done anything beyond ISO 3200 simply because I only want to have top quality, clean images.
I started with 40D, then I went to 5D MKII and then to 5D MKIII and I never used video. I am just this kind of guy that needs a perfect tool for landscapes and portraits...I am not dwelling on things that I did not use or needed for years.
I think there are many people like me....
So I personally want to thank Canon. I will wait for review and I think I am getting this camera.
+1
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RickWagoner said:AA said:Hmmm, still no features like:
- touch screen
- GPS
- Wi-Fi
- NFC
- fast AF in live view
- pop-up flash
I guess Canon believes only people who pay less than $1,000 for a camera deserve those. (Or those who leave them and go Sony.) The more you pay, the less you get. Makes sense, right?
And please don't come with the usual BS "only amateurs need those features" crap. The touch screen on the new 5500D can be used to pick focus points with your thumb when not even in live view. In ten years, every pro camera will have those features. A pro camera should be just as easy to use as a smartphone camera. As long as that's not the case, volumes will keep falling like they have since the first iPhone came out. and CaNikon deserve it.
Seems as though this camera is going after the Pro Studio market, type of people using Medium format cameras now. No use for pop up flash in a studio and same goes for GPS. Wifi and nfc would be pointless because you can tether it to a laptop which is always close in a pro studio setup and allows greater control.
If they are going for the studio / landscape / portrait shooter, I sure as heck hope that they are going to include high precision interchangeable focus screens for fast MF glass (ala Zeiss Otus). I still detest live view for walk around use.
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Karlpedal said:
Different things, the camera business selling the whole, not the parts, ie sensor, may well be in retreat. Bear in mind it's addition purchase which they want to sell to make the profits, not just a sensor, ie lenses and the like. Tom Hogan has a similar article on his site, interesting read...
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Well there's our answer for video... same as 5D III, except no serious filmmakers will want to use it because it lacks a headphone port and clean HDMI. No surprises there really, Canon likes making videographers pay more (1D C) or stick with a camera that may be missing features they would like (5D II originally). And no, I won't be pre-ordering. Poor college students can't afford this sort of thing, and the specs aren't up my alley anyway - indoor high ISO performance appears to take a backseat to detail. Now don't get me wrong, I love higher resolution, and my 7D is really lacking sometimes, but I need clean indoor shots, so I'd go for the 5D III over the 5Ds or whatever it is any day.GuyF said:
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Most probably for the first time in my life I can say that I will get a camera that is just perfect for me. Based on what I read, it has all the things I wanted and doesn't have things I completely do not need. It is hard to imagine, but I really feel like I was designing this thing specifically for my needs
1. I am more and more into landscapes and I want the best possible ISO 100, the sharpest possible image and as many details as I can possibly get
2. I am also into portraits, but I do it outside and I love the ambient light. I always go for ultimate image quality, so ISO 1200-1600 is the limit for me, but I always try to use ISO 100-800 for portraits.
3. I am trying to learn to take a lot less photographs and behave as if I had a film camera. This way I challenge myself to plan better, think harder and be a lot more creative
I have never used video with 5D MKII or 5D MKIII. I have never taken a photo beyond ISO 3200.
Can't believe this camera can give all the things I really need and will take away things that were never needed. Maybe this is what it means to be more professional and segmented - you do not make a camera that works for everybody, but give your segments the best possible tools. Cool!
1. I am more and more into landscapes and I want the best possible ISO 100, the sharpest possible image and as many details as I can possibly get
2. I am also into portraits, but I do it outside and I love the ambient light. I always go for ultimate image quality, so ISO 1200-1600 is the limit for me, but I always try to use ISO 100-800 for portraits.
3. I am trying to learn to take a lot less photographs and behave as if I had a film camera. This way I challenge myself to plan better, think harder and be a lot more creative
I have never used video with 5D MKII or 5D MKIII. I have never taken a photo beyond ISO 3200.
Can't believe this camera can give all the things I really need and will take away things that were never needed. Maybe this is what it means to be more professional and segmented - you do not make a camera that works for everybody, but give your segments the best possible tools. Cool!
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Because true landscape photographers know their spots and do not want anybody else to know them....
CaptureWhatYouSee said:
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