Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs

[takesome1]

GAME ON!!! Pre-Orders live on BHPhoto and Adorama!!!!!! Expected availability in June

Um..No....
Pre-orders not up yet

Bodies are there though

 

[rocksubculture]

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-5Ds.aspx

 

[Arkarch]

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-5Ds.aspx

"The headline feature for this camera is unquestionably the 50.6 MP full frame CMOS sensor, designed and produced completely by Canon (according to Chuck Westfall). Here is a chart comparing some current and recent EOS camera models."

 

[CaptureWhatYouSee]

"The 5Ds has the same dynamic range as 5D III. While some will complain that the closest Nikon-equivalent body has more dynamic range (and more is better), I haven't had an issue with the 5D II's DR. When I can't retain both shadows and highlights in an image, that scene generally needs very significantly more DR and exposure bracketing with HDR handles those instances nicely."

 

[rocksubculture]

From TDP:

While the 5D III supports the fast UDMA Mode 7 CompactFlash specification, it does not support the fast UHS-I SD/SDHC/SDXC standard. The good news is that the 5Ds does. No longer do CF cards need to be chosen just for their speed.

Is that something that could be upgraded on the 5D III via firmware? Or is it a hardware thing?

Jason

 

[3kramd5]

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-5Ds.aspx

That's a lot of words for a camera he's bever used

 

[Arkarch]

I dont see anything about color-optimized CFA.

 

[PureClassA]

GAME ON!!! Pre-Orders live on BHPhoto and Adorama!!!!!! Expected availability in June

Um..No....
Pre-orders not up yet

Bodies are there though

Not quite... but what's most important is I'm now 3 for 3 on price predictions and that's even better for all of us when so many folks were betting on $4-5k and beyond....

 

[takesome1]

GAME ON!!! Pre-Orders live on BHPhoto and Adorama!!!!!! Expected availability in June

Um..No....
Pre-orders not up yet

Bodies are there though

Not quite... but what's most important is I'm now 3 for 3 on price predictions and that's even better for all of us when so many folks were betting on $4-5k and beyond....

Such a value for them, they should be the first in line to buy.

 

[Stu_bert]

Thank you. So why don't we hear much (or do we and I'm just not very observant) about the same issues with APS-C sensors?

Because you get a much tighter framing, here everybody expects to need higher shutter speeds or a tripod.
People keep quoting the 1/f rule of thumb, 1/400s for 400mm and so on. With crop cameras people understood that the focal length has to be the apparent FL to keep the validity so you needed 1/640 under otherwise similar circumstances. Now with the higher res sensor you get the original framing of the lens back, but still require the faster shutter speed from the crop camera - it's the same pixel pitch after all, just with more picture along the borders. That raise from 1/400 to 1/640 would be the one way to get sharp pictures, the other would involve better technique, to get similar improvements at the old shutter speed.
(nota bene: the rule of thumb is just that; between higher resolution and IS it's even less set in stone then in analouge times)

thank you

 

[Stu_bert]

So why don't we hear much (or do we and I'm just not very observant) about the same issues with APS-C sensors?

Where were you when the 7D came out, and many people upgrading from the 10 MP 40D complained that their old camera was sharper...until they learned to use a higher shutter speed?

Using one - I used to have one before I bought a 2nd hand mk IV, never had the problem...

 

[Stu_bert]

"The 5Ds has the same dynamic range as 5D III. While some will complain that the closest Nikon-equivalent body has more dynamic range (and more is better), I haven't had an issue with the 5D II's DR. When I can't retain both shadows and highlights in an image, that scene generally needs very significantly more DR and exposure bracketing with HDR handles those instances nicely."

same noise as the 7D MK II according to Chuck. And indeed nothing about the CFA.

 

[Eldar]

"The 5Ds has the same dynamic range as 5D III. While some will complain that the closest Nikon-equivalent body has more dynamic range (and more is better), I haven't had an issue with the 5D II's DR. When I can't retain both shadows and highlights in an image, that scene generally needs very significantly more DR and exposure bracketing with HDR handles those instances nicely."

same noise as the 7D MK II according to Chuck. And indeed nothing about the CFA.

What a phenomenal turn-off

 

[Marsu42]

"The 5Ds has the same dynamic range as 5D III.

same noise as the 7D MK II according to Chuck. And indeed nothing about the CFA.

Well, there is little difference: 5d3 = 11ev and 7d2 11.2ev, though the 5d3 manages to sustain dr a bit longer at higher iso: http://www.sensorgen.info/

The best Canon camera at low iso remains the 6d (11.5ev), but that only makes a noticeable difference when it's multiplied by Magic Lanter's dual_iso to nearly 15ev.

 

[Loswr]

[quote author=Bryan Carnathan TDP]
The 5Ds has the same dynamic range as 5D III.
[/quote]

Woe to the republic a few people on CR forums.

 

[traveller]

Chuck Westfall has insisted that the 5DS sensor is designed and manufactured in-house, but what is interesting is the fact that it doesn’t feature Dual-pixel AF (and neither do the 750D, 760D nor EOS-M3).

I understood that DPAF is part of the core design of the sensor, you can’t just remove it from or add it to the front of existing sensors. Thus, assuming that these new sensors don’t simply have DPAF disabled (why would you do that -especially if you are going to add HCAF, like on the 750/760D?), they are of a fundamentally different design to the 7D MkII.

 

[kphoto99]

Chuck Westfall has insisted that the 5DS sensor is designed and manufactured in-house, but what is interesting is the fact that it doesn’t feature Dual-pixel AF (and neither do the 750D, 760D nor EOS-M3).

I understood that DPAF is part of the core design of the sensor, you can’t just remove it from or add it to the front of existing sensors. Thus, assuming that these new sensors don’t simply have DPAF disabled (why would you do that -especially if you are going to add HCAF, like on the 750/760D?), they are of a fundamentally different design to the 7D MkII.

Maybe Canon has decided that DPAF is a dead end.

 

[privatebydesign]

Chuck Westfall has insisted that the 5DS sensor is designed and manufactured in-house, but what is interesting is the fact that it doesn’t feature Dual-pixel AF (and neither do the 750D, 760D nor EOS-M3).

I understood that DPAF is part of the core design of the sensor, you can’t just remove it from or add it to the front of existing sensors. Thus, assuming that these new sensors don’t simply have DPAF disabled (why would you do that -especially if you are going to add HCAF, like on the 750/760D?), they are of a fundamentally different design to the 7D MkII.

Maybe Canon has decided that DPAF is a dead end.

I never understood the hoopla over DPAF, it seems the best thing it did was gave limited AF in Live View, so what?

 

[Stu_bert]

Chuck Westfall has insisted that the 5DS sensor is designed and manufactured in-house, but what is interesting is the fact that it doesn’t feature Dual-pixel AF (and neither do the 750D, 760D nor EOS-M3).

I understood that DPAF is part of the core design of the sensor, you can’t just remove it from or add it to the front of existing sensors. Thus, assuming that these new sensors don’t simply have DPAF disabled (why would you do that -especially if you are going to add HCAF, like on the 750/760D?), they are of a fundamentally different design to the 7D MkII.

Maybe Canon has decided that DPAF is a dead end.

I never understood the hoopla over DPAF, it seems the best thing it did was gave limited AF in Live View, so what?

I would have thought simplifying production would be better than not having the feature even if of limited benefit for the target users of the 5Ds. I guess DPAF adds to costs, and removing it provides better margin.

 

[traveller]

Chuck Westfall has insisted that the 5DS sensor is designed and manufactured in-house, but what is interesting is the fact that it doesn’t feature Dual-pixel AF (and neither do the 750D, 760D nor EOS-M3).

I understood that DPAF is part of the core design of the sensor, you can’t just remove it from or add it to the front of existing sensors. Thus, assuming that these new sensors don’t simply have DPAF disabled (why would you do that -especially if you are going to add HCAF, like on the 750/760D?), they are of a fundamentally different design to the 7D MkII.

Maybe Canon has decided that DPAF is a dead end.

I never understood the hoopla over DPAF, it seems the best thing it did was gave limited AF in Live View, so what?

It only really makes sense on video and mirrorless cameras -but as that's meant to be the future...?

My point was that the sensor design of the 7D MkII and the 5DS must be different if one has DPAF and one doesn't as DPAF is part of the architecture of the sensor.