Canon Announces Two New EF Ultra Wide-Angle Zoom Lenses and White EOS Rebel SL1 Digital SLR Camera

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While the new "L" lens seems to be getting all the love here, it's worth taking a look at the MTF chart for the 10-18 STM.

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Compare to the 16-35 "L" f2.8

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Others understand this stuff a lot better than I do, but this seems pretty good for a lens that retails at $300.

It appears this lens may rival the 55-250 EF-S for best bargain lens in Canon's lineup.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Might just have to get the 16-35/4L IS. Selling the 16-35/2.8L II would cover the cost. Less than 15% of my 16-35L shots are wider than f/4, and of those a reasonable fraction are of static subjects where 3-4 stops of IS would be of more benefit than 1 stop of light. Sharper would be welcome, too.

Bummer (for me) about the 77mm filter size, as the 24-70/2.8L II and TS-E 24L II both use 82mm, as does the 16-35/2.8L II. I have the needed filters in 77mm (B+W Käsemann CPL, 10-stop ND, and the Lee WA adapter), it just means carrying them, too.

No, just get a 77 to 82 step up ring and use the 82mm filters you are carrying on the 77mm lens.
 
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
Speaking of corner shots. I assume they did take them on FF right? And do you know what focal length those two shots were at? Maybe it says it in Japanese?

there's mention of a 1DX throughout, but on the image itself there is no indication i can tell at least from translations on what camera they used.

however I have never seen canon use a APS-C on sample images on a full frame camera .. that would be a dirty trick .. but i think nikon did that with the 16-35 VR so who knows?

the villa looks around 35mm and the other shot looks around 16mm

http://cweb.canon.jp/ef/info/ef16-35/index.html

but we'll have to wait for full samples for sure.
 
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privatebydesign said:
neuroanatomist said:
Might just have to get the 16-35/4L IS. Selling the 16-35/2.8L II would cover the cost. Less than 15% of my 16-35L shots are wider than f/4, and of those a reasonable fraction are of static subjects where 3-4 stops of IS would be of more benefit than 1 stop of light. Sharper would be welcome, too.

Bummer (for me) about the 77mm filter size, as the 24-70/2.8L II and TS-E 24L II both use 82mm, as does the 16-35/2.8L II. I have the needed filters in 77mm (B+W Käsemann CPL, 10-stop ND, and the Lee WA adapter), it just means carrying them, too.

No, just get a 77 to 82 step up ring and use the 82mm filters you are carrying on the 77mm lens.

+1.
The only reason I don't use step up rings with my 70-200 is because I like using the hood, but the hoods for the UWA zooms are pretty useless and take up a lot of space.
 
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sagittariansrock said:
Ahsanford, how do you like your Arca Swiss double pan head?
I have the sp and I am wondering if I should get the dp...
Ta

Dp is 100% the way to go for so much tripod work.
 
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I'm really happy to see Canon getting some new and meaningful lenses out. I think what surprised me most was the short amount of time from rumor to preorder. Measured in hours. Although these lenses don't attract me now, the 16-35/4L IS looks to be a spectacular lens that will make many people quite happy and one day I might find myself with one. For now I cover that range with the EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS which is a very nice lens. I am waiting to see the 7D Mark 2 and the unicorn... I mean 100-400 version 2. Maybe there is at least hope for the 7D Mark 2.... not so sure about unicorns, but I did see a Pegasus at the circus recently. ;) Maybe there is hope.
 
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privatebydesign said:
neuroanatomist said:
Might just have to get the 16-35/4L IS. Selling the 16-35/2.8L II would cover the cost. Less than 15% of my 16-35L shots are wider than f/4, and of those a reasonable fraction are of static subjects where 3-4 stops of IS would be of more benefit than 1 stop of light. Sharper would be welcome, too.

Bummer (for me) about the 77mm filter size, as the 24-70/2.8L II and TS-E 24L II both use 82mm, as does the 16-35/2.8L II. I have the needed filters in 77mm (B+W Käsemann CPL, 10-stop ND, and the Lee WA adapter), it just means carrying them, too.

No, just get a 77 to 82 step up ring and use the 82mm filters you are carrying on the 77mm lens.

Smacks the side of my head. Already have a 77→82mm ring, actually, and it'll likely go on after the hood just fine.
 
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privatebydesign said:
sagittariansrock said:
Ahsanford, how do you like your Arca Swiss double pan head?
I have the sp and I am wondering if I should get the dp...
Ta

Dp is 100% the way to go for so much tripod work.

It is very hard to get the dp clamp just by itself. Arca Swiss's support is rather crappy.
 
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Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
privatebydesign said:
RLPhoto said:
Again, speak for yourself. I don't own a fish eye and never would own one but a rectilinear UW gets much use. I do believe many have asked for a sharper 17-40L.

If you are in the 14mm rectilinear market, and many are not, then the original Canon EF 15mm fisheye defished beats the pants off many, including, in my experience (with two different models), the Canon 14mm MkII.

The fisheyes are way more than just a silly niche, they can be put to very creative use, software expands that potential exponentially and at very high IQ levels.
Good for you PBD. I'd love to see some nice creative shots with your work with fisheyes, stretched or un-stretched. There is many users who enjoy fisheyes and seen great shots with them, but I still have no need for one.

Can you tell which are fisheye, which are rectilinear, which are fish and which are defished?

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It doesn't really matter. I don't use fisheyes like that because

1. You have to crop some of the edges to straighten the image.
2. You can't see what your final image will be while composing.
3. I doubt the IQ will be as good as this new 16-35
 
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unfocused said:
While the new "L" lens seems to be getting all the love here, it's worth taking a look at the MTF chart for the 10-18 STM.

efs10_18_45_56_isstm_wide.gif


Compare to the 16-35 "L" f2.8

mtf_wide.gif


Others understand this stuff a lot better than I do, but this seems pretty good for a lens that retails at $300.

It appears this lens may rival the 55-250 EF-S for best bargain lens in Canon's lineup.

looks pretty good, might have to look into one for my parents..
 
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RLPhoto said:
Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
privatebydesign said:
RLPhoto said:
Again, speak for yourself. I don't own a fish eye and never would own one but a rectilinear UW gets much use. I do believe many have asked for a sharper 17-40L.

If you are in the 14mm rectilinear market, and many are not, then the original Canon EF 15mm fisheye defished beats the pants off many, including, in my experience (with two different models), the Canon 14mm MkII.

The fisheyes are way more than just a silly niche, they can be put to very creative use, software expands that potential exponentially and at very high IQ levels.
Good for you PBD. I'd love to see some nice creative shots with your work with fisheyes, stretched or un-stretched. There is many users who enjoy fisheyes and seen great shots with them, but I still have no need for one.

Can you tell which are fisheye, which are rectilinear, which are fish and which are defished?

Full%20frame%20fisheye.jpg

IMG_3334.jpg

5D_16491.jpg

5D_24461-5D_24461.jpg
It doesn't really matter. I don't use fisheyes like that because

1. You have to crop some of the edges to straighten the image.
2. You can't see what your final image will be while composing.
3. I doubt the IQ will be as good as this new 16-35

I didn't straighten these, as I said above.

The IQ is as good as my 70-200/2.8L IS II.
 
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My 50mm f/1.8 has IQ equal to the 70-200II at f/8. So what? How about at f/5.6 or f/4? That's different totally and i don't believe your fish eye has IS either.

You still lose some edges and most importantly, you can't see your composition while you compose. It doesn't work for me but if it works for you, good for you. I won't buy a fish eye anytime soon.
 
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RLPhoto said:
My 50mm f/1.8 has IQ equal to the 70-200II at f/8. So what? How about at f/5.6 or f/4? That's different totally.

You still lose some edges and most importantly, you can't see your composition while you compose. It doesn't work for me but if it works for you, good for you. I won't buy a fish eye anytime soon.

I meant at f/2.8. And I certainly can see my composition while I compose. It's in the viewfinder.
 
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Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
My 50mm f/1.8 has IQ equal to the 70-200II at f/8. So what? How about at f/5.6 or f/4? That's different totally.

You still lose some edges and most importantly, you can't see your composition while you compose. It doesn't work for me but if it works for you, good for you. I won't buy a fish eye anytime soon.

I meant at f/2.8.

Wow. You must have a lens sharper than the 14-24 Nikkor. Please do share full-res photos @ 2.8. Id really like to see them and I'm sure many more would too.
 
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Can someone help me out. Why would I buy the new 10-18 and not the existing 10-22?

What might be the difference in iq?
I can only think I'd use it for landscapes (probably using a tripod, though even without I don't find too little light unless it's way before dawn or if I have a nd filter, in which case I doubt IS would be enough.). I find photomerge works pretty well with a 35mm (and is pretty hopeless at 18mm (my existing widest), and I can't imagine ever taking a picture which included people at less than 18mm due to the distortion.
 
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streestandtheatres said:
Can someone help me out. Why would I buy the new 10-18 and not the existing 10-22?
What might be the difference in iq?
I can only think I'd use it for landscapes (probably using a tripod, though even without I don't find too little light unless it's way before dawn or if I have a nd filter, in which case I doubt IS would be enough.). I find photomerge works pretty well with a 35mm (and is pretty hopeless at 18mm (my existing widest), and I can't imagine ever taking a picture which included people at less than 18mm due to the distortion.
Smaller, lighter, and costs less than half the price?
Someone who already own lenses covering 18 to 22mm?
Someone who needs STM and Image Stabilizer for video?
 
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