Canon Confirms Replacement of 100-400 Coming, More DO & EF-M Lenses

Re: Canon Confirms Replacement of 100-400 Coming, More DO & EF-M Lenses

fotoray said:
neuroanatomist said:
bvukich said:
I know I'm in the minority, but I sure hope the 100-400 replacement is a push-pull zoom.https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=advantages+of+push-pull+zoom+lens

At least two of us in that minority...

I have wondered about the pros/cons of push/pull zoom and found this link, which mentions the 100-400

http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/18551/why-push-pull-zoom-is-not-widespread

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=advantages+of+push-pull+zoom+lens


Interesting discussions with personal preference perhaps a factor. I think the push/pull design has made way for the rotating ring mostly because of recent advances in autofocus. And just maybe the rotating ring may cost less to make??

I have a strong preference for push-pull (but only in a lens like the 100-400, I would find it undesirable for a shorter lens) for two sports related reasons.

First is for getting around lens restrictions at many sports venues. It's often based on the physical length of the lens, not the focal length. At 7.4" collapsed and sans hood, it's really quite petite for a lens capable of super telephoto focal lengths. So at a place with an 8" restriction, it's the only way to get out to 400mm without TCs. The 400DO clears a 10" restriction, and you could probably get away with the 400/5.6 as well (it's 10.1").

Second is just the amazing speed you can go from 100-400mm. At 100mm you can see between 1/3 to 1/2 of an american football field from the stands, depending on where you're sitting; which is great for scanning the field for action, then with a flick of your wrist you're at 400mm with just a couple players in your FOV. Try that with any of the 70-200s and a 2xTC. You can probably do it in only about twice the amount of time if your hand is positioned just right on the zoom ring where you can do the whole range without repositioning your hand, otherwise you're probably looking at 5-10x as long.
 
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Re: Canon Confirms Replacement of 100-400 Coming, More DO & EF-M Lenses

dilbert said:
Which makes you wonder how much money is riding on Chuck's comments.

And if there's money riding on it then Canon must feel at risk due to something ... wonder if Nikon/Sony have briefed various customers/partners on an upcoming lens that will compare favorably to the existing one?

Probably just since there was no mention of one at Photokina, Canon needs to keep the replacement mill turning as usual to keep people keen on waiting lol

(P.S. yes I'm a P-P fan too)
 
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Re: Canon Confirms Replacement of 100-400 Coming, More DO & EF-M Lenses

I suspect that they're just trying to stop sales leaking away. Tamron has their 150-600. Sigma now has two new 150-600s. (Even Fuji is showing off a new 140-400.) The Canon 100-400 is looking a little old and reach limited in comparison and despite comments above about sales holding up, a high number of people will opt for Tamron and Sigma options.
 
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Hillsilly said:
I suspect that they're just trying to stop sales leaking away. Tamron has their 150-600. Sigma now has two new 150-600s. (Even Fuji is showing off a new 140-400.) The Canon 100-400 is looking a little old and reach limited in comparison and despite comments above about sales holding up, a high number of people will opt for Tamron and Sigma options.

I currently have both the 100-400 and the Tamron 150-600. The sharpness, color rendition, etc. of these two lenses (at least for me, after MFA on both and a few weeks to adjust to the Tamron) are equivalent, except that the Tamron gets me that much closer. My 100-400 is going up on eBay soon.

I think that Canon should be a bit concerned about Tamron and Sigma in this particular market. Any new 100-400 is going to cost at least $2500, and perhaps it will be closer to $3000. I suspect that the Sigma Sport model will compete with it quite well, and still have the additional reach without TCs. For those of us who don't have the money to sink into a $2500+ lens, the Tamron and, I suspect, the Sigma Contemporary model will provide the performance of the current 100-400 at less than half the cost of the newer lenses, along with that extra 200mm.
 
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Re: Canon Confirms Replacement of 100-400 Coming, More DO & EF-M Lenses

Some one locally is selling a 100-400 for $1000... I'm not sure if it is in anticipation of the new one coming out... but it is tempting... even just buying one, using it for a while and then selling it. Tempting.
 
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jdramirez said:
Some one locally is selling a 100-400 for $1000... I'm not sure if it is in anticipation of the new one coming out... but it is tempting... even just buying one, using it for a while and then selling it. Tempting.

That seems to be the neighborhood for the 100-400 on eBay, and about what I hope to get for mine. It is an excellent lens, and built like a tank.
 
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jdramirez said:
Some one locally is selling a 100-400 for $1000... I'm not sure if it is in anticipation of the new one coming out... but it is tempting... even just buying one, using it for a while and then selling it. Tempting.

That's not far off the going rate. I've seen them listed for that on CL relatively frequently.
 
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jdramirez said:
Some one locally is selling a 100-400 for $1000... I'm not sure if it is in anticipation of the new one coming out... but it is tempting... even just buying one, using it for a while and then selling it. Tempting.
If it's anything close to as sharp as mine is, it's a steal!
 
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Re: Canon Confirms Replacement of 100-400 Coming, More DO & EF-M Lenses

Krob78 said:
jdramirez said:
Some one locally is selling a 100-400 for $1000... I'm not sure if it is in anticipation of the new one coming out... but it is tempting... even just buying one, using it for a while and then selling it. Tempting.
If it's anything close to as sharp as mine is, it's a steal!

+1 An improvement of the IS system is really all I want. I'm quite happy with the IQ.
 
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