Canon EF 600mm f/4 DO IS To Arrive in Late 2017 [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>We’re told that the Canon EF 600mm f/4 DO IS <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-ef-600mm-f4-do-br-at-canon-expo/">that was shown in prototype form</a> at Canon EXPO in September of 2015 is currently scheduled to be launched in the second half of 2017.</p>
<p>Along with the new DO supertelephoto, we’re told that Canon is well on its way developing updates for the other “big white” prime lenses. While optics will likely be similar, Canon is working on weight savings techniques and updated coatings and IS systems. We don’t expect to see these lenses announced in 2017, although we’re told it’s possible we may see them being tested at the 2018 Olympics in South Korea.</p>
<p>As with all lens announcements, take them with a grain of salt, as they do have a tendancy to be met with delays.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<p><em>image credit // <a href="http://www.popphoto.com/canon-is-working-on-600mm-do-br-telephoto-lens-with-its-latest-optical-tech">popphoto</a></em></p>
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[Loswr]

I rather like my 600/4L IS II, but I would be very interested in getting equivalent optical performance in a smaller, somewhat lighter package...

 

[ahsanford]

I rather like my 600/4L IS II, but I would be very interested in getting equivalent optical performance in a smaller, somewhat lighter package...

The form factor of that prototype reminded me of a traffic cone.

- A

 

[Loswr]

As opposed to the current bazooka-like form factor.

 

[Chaitanya]

that would certainly be an interesting lens other than the fact that huge front element will make it awkward(to say the least) to carry in bag while travelling.

 

[ahsanford]

that would certainly be an interesting lens other than the fact that huge front element will make it awkward(to say the least) to carry in bag while travelling.

Sure, but 600/4 = 600/4 regardless -- that front element wouldn't get any smaller with DO, right?

But if you own a 600 f/4 lens today, this DO version would represent a massive length reduction and get this lens into much more modest carrying bags/cases, one would think.

- A

 

[YuengLinger]

They said the ef 50mm f/1.2 L II would be ready when?

Can't believe I beat ahsanford to the question.

 

[Steve Dmark2]

We’re told that the Canon EF 600mm f/4 DO IS <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-ef-600mm-f4-do-br-at-canon-expo/">that was shown in prototype form</a> at Canon EXPO in September of 2015 is currently scheduled to be launched in the second half of 2017.</p>
<p>Along with the new DO supertelephoto, we’re told that Canon is well on its way developing updates for the other “big white” prime lenses. While optics will likely be similar, Canon is working on weight savings techniques and updated coatings and IS systems. ....

Maybe they also fit in new AF System "NANO USM technology" as well as digital focus display.
However the second part can be to gimmiky for the Big whites

 

[ahsanford]

They said the ef 50mm f/1.2 L II would be ready when?

Can't believe I beat ahsanford to the question.

L? f/1.2? What does that mean? Who needs that?

- A

 

[Hector1970]

What price range would it be in?
13000 - 14000?
The existing one is 4kg
What would being DO shave off the weight?

 

[Steve Dmark2]

Lets do some example calculation:

Canon 300mm 2,8 MK1 IS: 2,55kg
Canon 300mm 4L IS: 1,19kg

-->47% Difference.


Canon 400mm 2,8L 5,4kg
With 47% Difference -->
A fictive Canon 400mm 4L: 2,6kg.

Compared to 400mm 4DO IS II: 2,1kg.

So DO Savings at 400mm :81%

Put on the 600mm length:

600mm 4L IS II: 3,9kg with 81% -->
600mm 4DO IS: 3,15kg.

Does this make sense?

 

[xps]

What price range would it be in?
13000 - 14000?
The existing one is 4kg
What would being DO shave off the weight?

Unspecific rumored at Photokina at 13-16.000$ (increase of about 2-3000$ to the older version)-That means about 17.000€! if you calculate it at the new Canon price calculating factor. (1.3 times the $ price)

I bought the 600 II this year. So I will stay with the old one - although my mucle power is getting weaker.

 

[dolina]

0.5x the height and 0.5x the weight but 2.0x the price?

Where do I sign up?

 

[ahsanford]

Lets do some example calculation:

Canon 300mm 2,8 MK1 IS: 2,55kg
Canon 300mm 4L IS: 1,19kg

-->47% Difference.


Canon 400mm 2,8L 5,4kg
With 47% Difference -->
A fictive Canon 400mm 4L: 2,6kg.

Compared to 400mm 4DO IS II: 2,1kg.

So DO Savings at 400mm :81%

Put on the 600mm length:

600mm 4L IS II: 3,9kg with 81% -->
600mm 4DO IS: 3,15kg.

Does this make sense?

Sure, but *length* is the real killer app with DO, correct? We should be expecting (as an analogy) a 600 prime in the length of a 400 prime of the same max aperture, correct?

That's the huge driver for DO, correct? To get the length down?

- A

 

[xps]

Lets do some example calculation:

Canon 300mm 2,8 MK1 IS: 2,55kg
Canon 300mm 4L IS: 1,19kg

-->47% Difference.


Canon 400mm 2,8L 5,4kg
With 47% Difference -->
A fictive Canon 400mm 4L: 2,6kg.

Compared to 400mm 4DO IS II: 2,1kg.

So DO Savings at 400mm :81%

Put on the 600mm length:

600mm 4L IS II: 3,9kg with 81% -->
600mm 4DO IS: 3,15kg.

Does this make sense?

The people that rumored the price, also said, the weight and lens will be dramatically reduced. I think, the lens is lower than 3kg. -maybe they use other, lighter materials for the tube&coating

 

[xps]

Attendum: There were some journalists rumoring, Canon could use two IS systems in the newest lenses. Maybe there is an rotating and tilting compensation too?

 

[xps]

0.5x the height and 0.5x the weight but 2.0x the price?

Where do I sign up?

I´m sure, this lens gets sold well. Just think of all the professional photographers that carry a lot of gear with them....

 

[applecider]

For weight calculation I compare the 300 2.8 ii with 1.4 ext to the 400 ii DO. The relative weights are

300+1.4-about 100oz, 400 DO 80 oz, either gets you to 400mm f4 more or less. So the DO is 80% roughly of the non-DO.

The 600 f4 ii is 150 oz, times 0.8 gives a potential DO wt of 120 0z or 3.40kg. The bare current 500 is ii is about the same so a DO 600 could weigh about as much as current 500 f4, with weight distributed more toward the camera than the 500.

Using the same guessing method for the 800 f5.6 a 5kg lens could end up as a 4kg 800 DO f5.6.

I just wish canon would innovate....

 

[9VIII]

Maybe DO is something that could finally get the 300f4 and 400f5.6 upgraded.
At greater cost, of course, but the issue is convincing Canon to do anything new with those lenses at all.

Nikon's 300PF is $2,000 if that's any indication of what to expect.

 

[chrysoberyl]

Maybe DO is something that could finally get the 300f4 and 400f5.6 upgraded.
At greater cost, of course, but the issue is convincing Canon to do anything new with those lenses at all.

Nikon's 300PF is $2,000 if that's any indication of what to expect.

I'd go for a 400 f/5.6 DO!