Canon EOS M2 Specs Revealed?

[iron-t]

Specs are fine if its real-world AF performance is good. Certainly it's not the killer mirrorless many are pining for. Coming from M4/3 prior to Canon DSLRs, I'd grab one for the size-to-IQ-to-cost balance, plus the bonus of being able to mount Canon glass that is much better than M4/3 offerings.

 

[kphoto99]

If this rumor is true, I think it's evidence of Canon beginning to make mirrorless the new point-and-shoot market.

As camera phones devour the point-and-shoot market, Canon needs a new consumer-level bread-and-butter line that's good enough to be a clear advantage over camera phones but low enough in feature set to avoid cannibalizing the DSLR market. It wouldn't surprise me if Canon introduced several slightly different flavors of the the consumer-level M. For the consumer market, I doubt any of them have any clue which generation of sensor is in the camera, and they probably don't care. If it's cheap enough and has nifty enough features and is easy to use, the consumer market will be happy.

Obviously, neither the current M nor the M of this rumor represent a serious attempt by Canon to show the world how the ultimate mirrorless body should be done. If/when Canon decides to make such a statement, I'm confident it will be nothing less than spectacular. Meanwhile, we can all speculate on what will motivate Canon to do it...oh, and take some pictures between forum posts.

Every single P&S that I can think of had a build in flash. The M has to have it to be considered a P&S replacement. The 90EX that came in the kit I got is not any more powerful then a build in flash, and it is a pain to attach whenever a flash is required. I had a hell of a time explaining that to my wife (the M was for her).

 

[BL]

hmm. no new lenses?

DOA

 

[drjlo]

Not ground breaking but looks pretty cool. For $300, I'd probably buy one. If $400 or more, it better have some really nice lenses available...

Well, considering the original EOS-M/22mm kit launched at $799, $300 seems awfully optimistic. If this rumor is true, I see NO reason for us current EOS-M owners to "upgrade."

 

[Famateur]

If this rumor is true, I think it's evidence of Canon beginning to make mirrorless the new point-and-shoot market.

As camera phones devour the point-and-shoot market, Canon needs a new consumer-level bread-and-butter line that's good enough to be a clear advantage over camera phones but low enough in feature set to avoid cannibalizing the DSLR market. It wouldn't surprise me if Canon introduced several slightly different flavors of the the consumer-level M. For the consumer market, I doubt any of them have any clue which generation of sensor is in the camera, and they probably don't care. If it's cheap enough and has nifty enough features and is easy to use, the consumer market will be happy.

Obviously, neither the current M nor the M of this rumor represent a serious attempt by Canon to show the world how the ultimate mirrorless body should be done. If/when Canon decides to make such a statement, I'm confident it will be nothing less than spectacular. Meanwhile, we can all speculate on what will motivate Canon to do it...oh, and take some pictures between forum posts.

Every single P&S that I can think of had a build in flash. The M has to have it to be considered a P&S replacement. The 90EX that came in the kit I got is not any more powerful then a build in flash, and it is a pain to attach whenever a flash is required. I had a hell of a time explaining that to my wife (the M was for her).

Excellent point. Even on a DSLR, I like having a built-in flash to use for fill for sunny/back-lit scenes and/or catch lights in the eyes. They'll eventually need to add a pop-up flash to the EOS M, in my opinion.

 

[infared]

Sorry ...but I just have to laugh. No mention of a VF for the new M?
Look...I have an extensive MFT kit to complement my Canon FF Kit... I have been researching picking up an Olympus E-PL5 as a second MFT body.
1. VERY small.
2. Can be fitted with the BEST EVF out there...Olympus VF4
3. 8 frames per second
4. Incredibly extensive small, fast, prime lens selection...(all lenses actually including zooms)
That is just a few of the bests on the M-system..and the E-PL5 is one year old...and I bet that it focuses faster than the new M??????

I am looking at all of the other manufacturers...what the hell is Canon doing in the area of innovation??????????
I think that is a really valid question at this point.

you do realize it´s just a rumor yet?
like my latest rumor.... canon is only making popcorn from 2015 onwards.

why not getting your heartattack when the specs are really out? ;D

Not having a heart attack...quite the opposite...I am laughing my ass off at the ineptness of the "photo giant"......Mirrorless is such incredible tech to make cameras smaller and lighter...Canon could have an unbelievable small light "system" by now...but nada.......so.. in the meantime carrying my E-P5 EVERYWHERE and creating images! I will skip the popcorn....thanks.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/10980970415_2cfcc82226_o.jpg

 

[lw]

hmm. no new lenses?

DOA

The 'leak' is of the camera's spec.

Where does it imply there are no new lenses?

 

[BL]

Canon EOS M2

Below are the rumored specs of the Canon EOS M2 that will be announced for CES 2014 in Las Vegas.


There is no mention of new lenses for the system.


Specifications



APS-C 18MP sensor

Hybrid CMOS AF II

AF Speed 2.3 times faster

AF Servo in Video Mode

Image processing engine DIGIC 5

4.6fps burst rate

ISO range 100-12800 (25600 extended)

About a 10% smaller than the Canon EOS M

Wifi in camera

Can operate the camera with a smartphone.

Wireless image transfer to the smartphone

so with only 3 lenses available, one of which is inexplicably unavailable in US markets, is very telling for the M system. lenses sell cameras, and there's still nothing of a roadmap, not even rumors for more lenses in this mount.

no bother, i for one am very much looking forward to picking up the next M II at the "$299" (equivalent) firesale

 

[dufflover]

Wow like others hope this rumor is not true. 10% smaller sounds good, and a small fps bump is nice - I'm looking at this as a lower end camera btw so no VFs, etc. - but +1 more to the disappointment to the sensor remarks. Anymore of these old 18MP derivatives in new cameras is ... beyond belief (well I suppose not, the layman buyer doesn't know).

Price is the other one. For the same price as the M is being flogged off at now I suppose it would be an ok spec and purchase, however I have a feeling like anything "new" from Canon probably looking at AU$600+ price tag.

Didn't know about the different versions of their Hybrid CMOS sensors. That means I should go back to centre point only on my M so it has the phase detect?

 

[pwp]

Right now I am much more tempted to buy a SL1/100D if I want a "compact" system.

That's exactly what I have done. The SL1 is brilliantly tiny, with all the attributes of being a DSLR.
There will be a completeness with my SL1 if Canon ship a 22mm pancake EF-S.

And the new M? Wot? No EVF? This alone validates my decision to go with the SL1 as my lightweight travel camera. It's no 5D3 or 1-series, but I have used it as a third body on commercial jobs quite happily.

-pw

 

[traveller]

hmm. no new lenses?

DOA

The 'leak' is of the camera's spec.

Where does it imply there are no new lenses?

I'm guessing because the rumour doesn't mention any, but then it's only a rumour.

I would think that the lens that would be announced with such a camera (i.e. targeting "smaller") would be a short range collapsible/power standard zoom, like the Panasonic 12-32, their PZ 14-42, or Sony's 16-50mm (actually, not too much like this lens because it's bloody rubbish! )

 

[brad-man]

It is difficult to understand why Canon would leak news of a new M body before leaking some news about lenses. Personally, I wouldn't mind them keeping the same sensor so long as there's a significant improvement in AF. I also don't care about a VF and I'm satisfied with a hotshoe. It's all about size. I very much care about lenses. If Canon wants any more money of mine directed towards the M, they need to make it a system...

 

[Hannes]

One could hope this is the M100 or something if they continue their dslr naming scheme. M10 with better 70D sensor and a M2 with FF, that'd be amazing. No mention of three M's though but I'd be surprised if canon hasn't at least run an analysis of what it'd cost and what they could make on having a FF mirrorless camera given the new Sony. Maybe this will be the M10 and the better version the M2? It is a shame the current M with the 22mm hasn't ever approached the $300 equivalent here in the uk as then I would likely have bought one but given that they go for more than that used on ebay I won't get one anytime soon

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Sorry ...but I just have to laugh. No mention of a VF for the new M?
Look...I have an extensive MFT kit to complement my Canon FF Kit... I have been researching picking up an Olympus E-PL5 as a second MFT body.
1. VERY small.
2. Can be fitted with the BEST EVF out there...Olympus VF4
3. 8 frames per second
4. Incredibly extensive small, fast, prime lens selection...(all lenses actually including zooms)
That is just a few of the bests on the M-system..and the E-PL5 is one year old...and I bet that it focuses faster than the new M??????

I am looking at all of the other manufacturers...what the hell is Canon doing in the area of innovation??????????
I think that is a really valid question at this point.

you do realize it´s just a rumor yet?
like my latest rumor.... canon is only making popcorn from 2015 onwards.

why not getting your heartattack when the specs are really out? ;D

hah, because if you wait until the specs are real then it's too late

better Canon sees people going crazy so they know what to avoid or back to try to back out of doing way ahead of time, it takes 10 seconds of effort to get the point across so why not regardless of whether it's CR -2 or CR2.

 

[privatebydesign]

I don't understand why everybody is clamouring for new M lenses. The three they make are very good and cover 99.9% of the type of shots that most M's are used for, personally, I don't want a second lens collection for my compact camera, that makes it not compact! I was sold on the fact that I can take an M with me traveling, I have a small camera for casual shots and I have the EF convertor so I could use it as backup with the EF lenses I am already carrying.

 

[Bob Howland]

I don't understand why everybody is clamouring for new M lenses. The three they make are very good and cover 99.9% of the type of shots that most M's are used for, personally, I don't want a second lens collection for my compact camera, that makes it not compact! I was sold on the fact that I can take an M with me traveling, I have a small camera for casual shots and I have the EF convertor so I could use it as backup with the EF lenses I am already carrying.

I'd settle for a tiny native 15-85 lens and a superb alternative to the Metabones Speed Booster for EF lenses. I'm resigned to the fact that what I want in the speed booster will probably cost as much as or more than the camera body itself.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Right now I am much more tempted to buy a SL1/100D if I want a "compact" system.

That's exactly what I have done. The SL1 is brilliantly tiny, with all the attributes of being a DSLR.
There will be a completeness with my SL1 if Canon ship a 22mm pancake EF-S.

And the new M? Wot? No EVF? This alone validates my decision to go with the SL1 as my lightweight travel camera. It's no 5D3 or 1-series, but I have used it as a third body on commercial jobs quite happily.
-pw

It is. If there are only 2 choices of lenses for EOS-M, and no viewfinder to put my eye on him, I guess G1X is a more useful camera. What is the advantage of a camera with interchangeable lenses, if there are no more lenses to buy?

 

[Zv]

CMOS Hybrid II?? That's not Dual Pixel AF is it?? Disappointing.

These specs are about the same as the old one but with wifi. If that's the case I will be very happy because I like my M and don't want to upgrade it anytime soon.

Yay for lousy specs!

 

[BL]

CMOS Hybrid II?? That's not Dual Pixel AF is it?? Disappointing...

Yay for lousy specs!

hahaha +1

 

[Woody]

Quite believable actually. The EOS-M is selling very well at its current price, so there's no incentive to make any major change.

Except for that 2.3x AF speed increase bit... From http://www.canon.com.sg/personal/news/detail/firmware-auto-focus:
"With this firmware update, focusing speed of the One-Shot AF on the EOS M is improved. This is especially noticeable when Live Multi-Point AF is being used, improved AF speed* shows a maximum of 2.3x increase when compared to previous speed." Someone obviously got mixed up with old news. ;D