Canon EOS R5 Mark II Specification make the rounds

[Walrus]

In Canon land, when we talk about buttons, we usually mean dials....even the R8 has enough customisable buttons to satisfy any photographer. It's the number (and featureset) of the dials that gets every one's attention. The two features of the R6ii that I prefer over the R8 is the EVF size and resolution and the AF joystick. Pushing the centre of the AF joystick re-centres the AF point...that's SO useful!

I agree, dials play a huge role; for example, what I personally HATE on the RP is that you can configure the top dial (same for the front dial) only for changing Tv or Av; you can't configure the top dial for the ISO, which is a huge miss (also because it would take 2min of firmware tweaking...).

Traditionally in Canon cameras front dial is Tv, and back dial is Av, so feels natural when there's a third dial on top to configure it for ISO.
On the R6 this is natural because it has three dials, but there are two-dials cameras also, like RP, R8, or the R10 which I previously owned, all missing the rear dial.
On the R10 the top dial can actually be set to ISO, so Tv and ISO dials were set same as in my R6, so muscle memory was ok, and I could set the Av on the control ring of the lens or of the RF-EF adapter, which still feels natural and intuitive, because changing aperture on the lens barrel is something we have done for decades.
On the RP you can't, and I don't like changing ISO with the control ring, so I ended up with Tv on front dial, Av on top dial, and to change ISO I configured "AF-ON + front dial" combo, which works fine; but every time I switch from R6 to RP, on the second I always try to change ISO with top dial as per muscle memory, but of course I end up changing aperture, so it's very annoying.
I really don't know why Canon couldn't allow me (at release, but also after, with a firmware update) to set what specific exposure triangle parameter I like on my RP's dials.

 

[Walrus]

Pushing the centre of the AF joystick re-centres the AF point...that's SO useful!

Yes; but you can do the same principle on RP/R8, configuring the SET button to re-centre the AF point, while using the 4 way controller to move the AF point as it was the joystick.

 

[Del Paso]

The sight of an 800mm f/5.6 as a club might frighten the bear?

No, they're only afraid of the Leica R 5,6/1600. These are fashion and status conscious Italian luxury bears. Only the best!
Maybe I should wear a red M..A hat...

 

[Del Paso]

I'll dare to say there's an over-population of people invading the teddies territory, and so they rightfully kick dudes out of their home

(Just two days ago in region Abruzzo a female bear was shot-killed by a farmer because she entered his garden; her two baby bears were recovered and luckily they seem to be independent already, so they should be able to survive without the mother. The specific bear ate in the past some chickens, and some cakes in a bakery, but never caused problems with human, she was not scared but also never aggressive, you usually shout her "go go" while clapping hands, and she was going away. A gentle bear).

You are right 99% of the time. Bears usually don't predate on humans. Quite often, as I saw in Yellowstone, humans react in a sub-intelligent (stupid too rude?) way. By getting too close for the photo, for instance. Or by running, shouting, gesticulating.
But there's still the odd aggressive male, or the female (understandingly) protecting her cubs.
I still think that by behaving bear-conform, risk is very very low. Bears will certainly no spoil my vacation, and I will pay attention to not spoiling theirs.
Cars in the city and Sony trolls are far more dangerous.

 

[roby17269]

That's 2024's R1 ;-)

well, then, better start saving those redundant kidneys...

 

[Loswr]

I agree, dials play a huge role; for example, what I personally HATE on the RP is that you can configure the top dial (same for the front dial) only for changing Tv or Av; you can't configure the top dial for the ISO, which is a huge miss (also because it would take 2min of firmware tweaking...).

Traditionally in Canon cameras front dial is Tv, and back dial is Av, so feels natural when there's a third dial on top to configure it for ISO.
On the R6 this is natural because it has three dials, but there are two-dials cameras also, like RP, R8, or the R10 which I previously owned, all missing the rear dial.
On the R10 the top dial can actually be set to ISO, so Tv and ISO dials were set same as in my R6, so muscle memory was ok, and I could set the Av on the control ring of the lens or of the RF-EF adapter, which still feels natural and intuitive, because changing aperture on the lens barrel is something we have done for decades.
On the RP you can't, and I don't like changing ISO with the control ring, so I ended up with Tv on front dial, Av on top dial, and to change ISO I configured "AF-ON + front dial" combo, which works fine; but every time I switch from R6 to RP, on the second I always try to change ISO with top dial as per muscle memory, but of course I end up changing aperture, so it's very annoying.
I really don't know why Canon couldn't allow me (at release, but also after, with a firmware update) to set what specific exposure triangle parameter I like on my RP's dials.

Have you tried Fv mode? Using two dials, it gets you very close to the convenience of having three dials.

 

[Marphoto]

It sounds more like wishful thinking and not in keeping with the typical sorts of upgrades that one sees in a "mark ii" body. Will they up the ante on the MP's? Difficult to say, though I think the current pixel density is a rather sweet spot unless there is a radical change in noise levels or sensor read out speed. The dual CFE would be welcome as would longer battery life. I doubt the implementation of eye control autofocus and suspect more that it would be more likely we see improvements in the eye detection algorithms. Improvements in button layout and performance are always welcome, though the R5 in its current iteration is one heck of a camera and I find myself using it the most frequently over my R3 and R7.

 

[EricN]

I'll dare to say there's an over-population of people invading the teddies territory, and so they rightfully kick dudes out of their home

(Just two days ago in region Abruzzo a female bear was shot-killed by a farmer because she entered his garden; her two baby bears were recovered and luckily they seem to be independent already, so they should be able to survive without the mother. The specific bear ate in the past some chickens, and some cakes in a bakery, but never caused problems with human, she was not scared but also never aggressive, you usually shout her "go go" while clapping hands, and she was going away. A gentle bear).

Tragic... many people regect the idea of overpopulation. I've even heard some people argue that they don't care about animals to support their thinking.

I would love to see a bear wonder into a bakery and eat some cakes!

 

[Walrus]

I would love to see a bear wonder into a bakery and eat some cakes!

E' tornata l'orsa Gemma

Continuano le ricerche dei due cuccioli di Amarena, avvistati a 25 chilometri da San benedetto dei Marsi dove l'orsa è stata uccisa a colpi di fucile. Intanto un altro esemplare, già conosciuto e benvoluto, è tornato a farsi vivo: l 'orsa Gemma

www.rainews.it

(there were no internal cameras, just external; the owner said "we prepared and left here two cakes, then the bear come in and of course ate them, then went away. We weren't scared, she's a citizen of ours since 25 years, no one in our town is scared by Gemma The Bear, we respect her and she respect us, even if sometimes she does some annoyance, but she's a bear...").

Gemma The Bear that entered the bakery is the mother of the bear just killed few days ago, Amarena; so indeed, someone was actually scared by bears, unfortunately.

 

[EricN]

E' tornata l'orsa Gemma

Continuano le ricerche dei due cuccioli di Amarena, avvistati a 25 chilometri da San benedetto dei Marsi dove l'orsa è stata uccisa a colpi di fucile. Intanto un altro esemplare, già conosciuto e benvoluto, è tornato a farsi vivo: l 'orsa Gemma

www.rainews.it

(there were no internal cameras, just external; the owner said "we prepared and left here two cakes, then the bear come in and of course ate them, then went away. We weren't scared, she's a citizen of ours since 25 years, no one in our town is scared by Gemma The Bear, we respect her and she respect us, even if sometimes she does some annoyance, but she's a bear...").

Gemma The Bear that entered the bakery is the mother of the bear just killed few days ago, Amarena; so indeed, someone was actually scared by bears, unfortunately.

Thanks so much! I would feel lucky to have bears where I live, but there is not enough forest, so they couldn't be happy bears, unfortunately and I suspect too many Americans might be like the one who killed Amarena.

 

[JohnC]

Personally, I'd like to think the button layout will be closer to the R3, which I find ergonomically more pleasing, particularly the focus point adjustment "nub".

 

[cohenfive]

These specs sound about right. Personally the only disappointment I see in the rumored specs is the lack of a 45-50mp resolution option. I like the resolution of the R5 the way it is now, but I guess if the noise performance and speed (fps) are good enough, I can shoot at higher res. It will be better for cropping far off critters, but only if overall performance is as good as the lower res competition. Having a higher resolution stacked sensor will also give Canon some room to price the R5ii above the Nikon Z8, its primary competitor.

 

[cohenfive]

Sounds like these are R1 specs to me. If these are actually the R5ii specs, then what's the R1 going to have?

Maybe a global shutter?

 

[juststeve]

Maybe a global shutter?

Quad pixel AF would be really helpful. Frankly, the specs as listed sound more like an R1. An R5ii at 45-50 MP and a stacked sensor sounds about right for the $3800-4000 price range. (see Nikon Z8). Throw in quad pixel on an R5ii and you would have an extra couple hundred dollars of value with likely the same production costs.

 

[mpmark]

Nothing particularly interesting in the Specs. All to be more or less expected. Dual CFexpress slot might make it wider (I don’t mind the current set up as I’ve loads of SD cards). For me improved focusing capabilities would be number one. If that doesn’t occur I’m not sure if the point of upgrading from the R5 which is still an excellent camera.

Id have to agree if it wasn't for the part about the stacked sensor. That is a major piece worth the upgrade if you understand why stacked sensors matter.

 

[mpmark]

Maybe a global shutter?

I don't know how many times people keep stating "global shutter". I hate to tell you but stacked sensors are yet to be a common item in the new mirrorless camera offerings. You won't see a global shutter in a new camera for a long time, as stacked sensors are already very fast, getting faster and the market for them has not yet matured. People need to get global shutters out of their heads.

 

[Loswr]

Id have to agree if it wasn't for the part about the stacked sensor. That is a major piece worth the upgrade if you understand why stacked sensors matter.

With my R8, I shoot architecture and occasional landscapes and portraits. How would a stacked sensor benefit me for those use cases?

 

[JohnC]

With my R8, I shoot architecture and occasional landscapes and portraits. How would a stacked sensor benefit me for those use cases?

or a global shutter for that matter...

 

[clearwaterphotog]

I thought the average Canon shooter was a wildlife and sports pro/wannabe? Obviously a stacked or global shutter sensor would surely delight them with low/nonexistent rolling shutter and fast AF.

 

[JohnC]

I thought the average Canon shooter was a wildlife and sports pro/wannabe? Obviously a stacked or global shutter sensor would surely delight them with low/nonexistent rolling shutter and fast AF.

Not me, almost entirely landscape. Are you a Canon wildlife/sports photog?