Canon to Finally Announce a 50mm f/1.4 Replacement Soon? [CR1]

dilbert said:
I'm not interested in any 50mm lenses unless they've fixed all of the optical problems with the existing 50/1.4. Don't care if it IS, USM, L or water proof to 50m. If it is just as bad optically as the current one, no way.

Thought you'd only be interested in Sony options now?
 
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dilbert said:
I'm not interested in any 50mm lenses unless they've fixed all of the optical problems with the existing 50/1.4. Don't care if it IS, USM, L or water proof to 50m. If it is just as bad optically as the current one, no way.

We'll get a new optical design, right? That will address some IQ concerns.

But if you need a 50mm f/1.4 to rival the Sigma Art, you must already know that this won't be the lens for you. I'm expecting the non-L refresh to go with an old-as-dirt compact double gauss sort of design. It will be well built and have less copy-to-copy variation, but I'm not expecting this lens to set test charts alight.

- A
 
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Could there be room for two options?

A 50mm f/1.4 USM II which is basically just a straight up revised version of the old one

And maybe a 55mm / 58mm f/2 IS USM that's a bit smaller and cheaper than the 1.4 (I'd be interested in this one, especially if it was EF-M)

That way there's enough differentiation from the 50mm f/1.8 STM
 
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dilbert said:
I'm not interested in any 50mm lenses unless they've fixed all of the optical problems with the existing 50/1.4. Don't care if it IS, USM, L or water proof to 50m. If it is just as bad optically as the current one, no way.

I'm with you on this. Had a couple of EF 50 f/1.4 lenses over the years but were inconsistent and ultimately dust collecting wide-aperture paper weights. Off to eBay with them! Still wanted a 50 so tried the Sigma 50. Absolutely fantastic when it caught focus, which it did actually do sometimes. Sometimes is not enough to trust on commissioned work so it disappeared via eBay as well. Borrowed the 50L from CPS a few times but never quite felt like dropping the $$ on one. It has it's issues too.

For me to consider the new rumored lens it has to be cracking good wide open. I'm a three zooms guy, deliriously happy with the 24-70 f/2.8II so my only reason for considering another 50mm would be just about bulletproof by at least f/1.8, preferably wide open. IS would be appreciated, and given recent EF prime releases, I'd say there's a good chance of IS being there. Nice rumor!

-pw
 
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It will be only interesting for ME, if ...
... compact built
... f/1.4
... USM or option with similar responsibility and reliability
... IS is included
... max. reproduction factor is around 0.25
... IQ is good at f/1.4, very good at f/2.0 ... f/2.8 and stellar above

I am searching for a compact low light lens with high aperture AND IS to have a tripod alternative for different situations which is - stopped down - well suited for a lot of shooting situations.
 
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All I ask is that image quality taken wide open is excellent. Too much to ask? :o

That being said, I have been very impressed with all the lenses Canon have released in the last few years. When last have they made an absolute dud? No, I can't think of any in the last 5 years or so.

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 IS USM ...hmmmmmmmmmm :D
 
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PepeSilvia said:
This would make me sad. I imagine it will go like the 24-70. Holding out on a 24-70mm f/2.8 IS...

As a stills photographer, I have zero issues with the 24-70ii not having IS. I guess that aside from videographers, those who want an IS version of the 24-70, lives too much in theory and do not spend enough time out there taking photos.

Just my two cents but my opinion nonetheless.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
We’re told that Canon will announce a replacement to the EF 50mm f/1.4 “soon”. This is an oft rumored lens for replacement and there’s no doubt there has been ongoing development for such a lens.
Hope to be true this time.

...(it) will not have IS,
Can live with that. More than having bad f1.8 or f2.0 with IS.
will still be f/1.4,
Great! :)

and have ring type USM
Great! :D

Put me on the list as soon as the prices go down a little.
(And of course, as soon as this rumor becomes true).
 
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Sabaki said:
PepeSilvia said:
This would make me sad. I imagine it will go like the 24-70. Holding out on a 24-70mm f/2.8 IS...

As a stills photographer, I have zero issues with the 24-70ii not having IS. ...
And as soon as your subject moves (children, people in conversation, busy streets, animals) you will have to go to shutter speeds where IS is no longer relevant as well.

So IS is nice but not essential.
 
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Maximilian said:
Sabaki said:
PepeSilvia said:
This would make me sad. I imagine it will go like the 24-70. Holding out on a 24-70mm f/2.8 IS...

As a stills photographer, I have zero issues with the 24-70ii not having IS. ...
And as soon as your subject moves (children, people in conversation, busy streets, animals) you will have to go to shutter speeds where IS is no longer relevant as well.

So IS is nice but not essential.

Agreed. I'm just amazed at how dismissive people are of the 24-70ii due to the fact that it doesn't have IS.

Yes, there are arguments for IS but the 24-70ii is an amazing piece of kit, with exceptional IQ performance including fantastic CA, punchy contrast, sharp from f/2.8, let's not even talk about the build quality.

Yet it's meh to some because they believe IS is critical on a lens with these shorter focal lengths. I'm puzzled
 
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I'd spend $1400 if it has the new BR goo, and has as good of bokeh and sharpness as the current 1.2L and as sharp to the edges as the new 35mm 1.4Lii. They would probably call it L then... The new 35mm blows me away and would love to see that BR even if it's at 1.4. :D
That could be a sales pitch to call it L. ;)
 
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Mac Duderson said:
I'd spend $1400 if it has the new BR goo, and has as good of bokeh and sharpness as the current 1.2L and as sharp to the edges as the new 35mm 1.4Lii. They would probably call it L then...
Mac Duderson, I am quite sure that you'll get that kind of lens sooner or later.
That will be the 50L/1.2 successor. But it will come closer to $1.700 than to your 1.400 ;)

Honestly I was wondering which one of those two successors (50L and 50/1.4) would be first to hit the market.
If I had to place a bet I was going to put it on the 50L. Now it seems to be the other way around.
 
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Oh sorry I meant being a 1.4.
Hum ya who knows what there doing with the 50mm now. I wonder if they were ready until Siggy did their version recently. Back to the drawing board.
If they did the mother load and BR in a 1.4 then I would guess they are done with a 1.2 version. I don't think they would do that but who knows eh.
Both the older 35mm 1.4 and the current 50mmL were both average $1400 each for years. Then the new 35mmL ii is at $1800. I would LOVE it if they did a new 1.2L for $1800 also following price range of it's 35mm brother as they seem to follow each other in price.
 
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AvTvM said:
hmmm ... slightly improved version of the current 50/1.4 ... what pricepoint do you think they are targetting? 500 ? or rather 999 ?
Seeing the MRSPs Canon did with the New IS WA primes and then how they needed to correct them because of the market, I'd expect the two possibilities:
1. slightly improved d. gauss design, better coatings, better mechanics, etc. for about 500 to 600 $/€
2. different, new optical formula, e.g. like the Sigma Art, etc. for about 800 to 1.000 $/€

I suppose the 50/1.4 sucessor at 1.
And the 50/1.2L sucessor at 2. with all the L treatment, BR and then about 1.500 to 1.800 $/€
 
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dilbert said:
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dilbert said:
I'm not interested in any 50mm lenses unless they've fixed all of the optical problems with the existing 50/1.4. Don't care if it IS, USM, L or water proof to 50m. If it is just as bad optically as the current one, no way.

Thought you'd only be interested in Sony options now?

Canon as a lens manufacturer (only) is perfectly acceptable to me. That's the best part about the Sony system - the array of lenses that you can use on the camera is very wide.

I agree - the best part of the Sony system is the lenses made by other manufacturers. ;D
 
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Maximilian said:
AvTvM said:
hmmm ... slightly improved version of the current 50/1.4 ... what pricepoint do you think they are targetting? 500 ? or rather 999 ?
Seeing the MRSPs Canon did with the New IS WA primes and then how they needed to correct them because of the market, I'd expect the two possibilities:
1. slightly improved d. gauss design, better coatings, better mechanics, etc. for about 500 to 600 $/€
2. different, new optical formula, e.g. like the Sigma Art, etc. for about 800 to 1.000 $/€

I suppose the 50/1.4 sucessor at 1.
And the 50/1.2L sucessor at 2. with all the L treatment, BR and then about 1.500 to 1.800 $/€

Speaking of price; if the new 50mm non L comes in at $1000, I would rather save the extra cash and buy the 85mm L f1.2 instead.
No mistake that the 50mm is a desired focal length but if the pricing isn't decent, the 85mm would be my boken monster of choice
 
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