Canon to Release Super Telephoto Zoom in 2016 [CR2]
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j-nord said:
Or, I've always thought a 400mm f/4L IS prime would be a sweet spot lens as well. Especially one that takes teleconverters really well. I mean, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but we got the beloved, affordable 400mm f/5.6 and then we go to the extreme of the 400mm f/2.8 which comes with a magnitude cost increase.
Yep, a 400mm f/4 prime of some sort, maybe in the $2500 to $3500 range could be a very popular lens and yet attainable for enthusiasts. I just assume Canon feels such a lens/price might cannibalize other sales or something and therefore is not a good product to add from a marketing standpoint?
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Maiaibing said:
If you really seriously want to crop at that level, consider the G3 X or the new Sony R10 III. Their 1" BSI sensors are equivalent to 150 mpx FF and they have either an f/5.6 or f/4 220mm lens, respectively, with very good image quality.
I'm sticking with my 5DS R and 400mm+ combinations, but I get good service from the G3 X when travelling light.
My experience with Canon is pre-order, pay the full whack and see the price drop seriously after 15 months. But, if the 200-600mm is announced, I'll probably pre-order as I won't be able to resist it. At least the prospect is keeping me away from the hideously expensive 400mm II DO.
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AvTvM said:
The 100-400 version 1 and the 400F5.6 co-existed in the Canon lineup for a long time.... Zooms are always more popular, but when built with a similar level of technology and materials, the prime will always outperform the zoom, particularly when you attach a teleconverter. With a zoom, you have to design for a range of focal lengths and although some of the modern zooms are amazingly sharp, the prime built to a similar level of tech is always sharper. A zoom has more moving parts... this means that alignment is less precise and adds in a bit of weight. Most zooms (like the 100-400 II) have the barrel extend (not all, the 70-200 F4 is a very noticeable exception) but the 400F5.6 remains a constant length and that means that you are not pumping air (with moisture and dust) through the lens..... there is no such thing as a sealed extending lens....
There are a lot of people out there that would jump all over a 400F5.6 rev II. It would sell. There would be one in my camera bag....
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Luds34 said:
There is a wonderful 400 f4 lens right now in the 400 f4 DO II lens. IF you want top of the line L quality, you need to pay the price for it. If that is too expensive for you and you don't want that quality, there are plenty of used 400 DO version I's out there for the price you mention. There are also plenty of used 300 f2.8 IS version I's out there that take both teleconverters very well in that price range. You can certainly get an affordable 600mm with a Canon lens right now if you buy used.
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dilbert said:
Correct, not to mention the patent indicates f/5.2 at the long end, and that's the wrong direction for a number-fudge as it connotes a 115mm diameter front element. So, it's rather apparent that the internally zooming 200-600mm f/4.5-5 lens in the linked patent is not the 'inexpensive 200-600mm zoom' being discussed here.
dilbert said:
Note that タグ：means "Tags:" and that when you hover over the following words you see that 'Canon', 'CINEMA EOS', and each of the lenses are separate tags. The image height of the 200-600mm embodiment in the patent is 21.65mm, which means an EF 'full frame' image circle. So this patent does describe an EF lens (in that one embodiment), but as stated, likely not the one being discussed here.
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RickWagoner said:
I have both setups and have to disagree with you that the Tammy is as good wide open to the 100-400mm II. It is pretty close.
I always tell anyone who asks that if money is the issue then go with the Tammy otherwise get the Canon. and a 1.4x TC III. This combo beats the Tammy wide open.
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Canon should just release a new 300/4L IS, a 400/5.6L w/ IS, and maybe even a 500/5.6L IS. The first 2 should be relatively cheap, the last north of $2K. And replace the USM with STM on the old 70-300 non-L IS and improve the optics.
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I'm actually sort of happy with my Samyang 800f8 mirror lens.
On the 5D2 it has worse detail and way less colour than the 400f5.6 on the T3, but, as far as compact and lightweight telephoto lenses go, maybe not so bad for $300. I'm sure it's better than cropping off a kit lens... If you ever manage to get anything in focus.
I'll take it out tomorrow and shoot some geese nesting in the dugout.
On the 5D2 it has worse detail and way less colour than the 400f5.6 on the T3, but, as far as compact and lightweight telephoto lenses go, maybe not so bad for $300. I'm sure it's better than cropping off a kit lens... If you ever manage to get anything in focus.
I'll take it out tomorrow and shoot some geese nesting in the dugout.
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Since when can you can teleconverter an EF-S lens? Is there some third party teleconverter that does this?
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Yes, there are two possibilities:
1) front mounted TC via filter thread - I use Olympus C-210 here. It works. Of course, the image quality on pixel level will be worse, but once you need to frame tighter, it will deliver greater relative resolution, and the magnified image will be better than upsized one. For $20, I´m very happy what it does.
2)Third party TCs. Kenko has two of these. Both are called HD. One of these is 1,4x, which I have, and the second one is 2x. I´ll have a look at the second one too. It adds chromatic abberations, but the output image is still VERY sharp, and with some processing SW, you can heal most of that ugly CA effects.
Funny thing is that my M will focus with both of these mounted on the lens. That´s something like f/13!
Since when can you can teleconverter an EF-S lens? Is there some third party teleconverter that does this?
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Yes, there are two possibilities:
1) front mounted TC via filter thread - I use Olympus C-210 here. It works. Of course, the image quality on pixel level will be worse, but once you need to frame tighter, it will deliver greater relative resolution, and the magnified image will be better than upsized one. For $20, I´m very happy what it does.
2)Third party TCs. Kenko has two of these. Both are called HD. One of these is 1,4x, which I have, and the second one is 2x. I´ll have a look at the second one too. It adds chromatic abberations, but the output image is still VERY sharp, and with some processing SW, you can heal most of that ugly CA effects.
Funny thing is that my M will focus with both of these mounted on the lens. That´s something like f/13!
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