Canon to Surprise With New Mirrorless Camera

[TeT]

Beauty of the existing M system is very good glass and very good IQ.

They just need to jazz up the speed (lag + AF speed) slap in the 5DIII or 6D or better sensor and maybe add more diverse customization options and its a winner. EVF Pop UP Tilt touch Bluetooth Wireless... 5d3-1/2 mirrorless? Doable?

 

[3kramd5]

A) Canon EOS-X1
FF MILC, at least slightly better *in all respects* than Sony A7R II, not bigger and not more expensive

Boy, that's truly looking at "glass half full,"

AvTvM has a history of posting up unrealistic wish lists, but at least this time he refrained from requesting AF-only (i.e. manual focus not possible) lenses with an LCD in place of a mechanical aperture

Meanwhile, I'd like a new car. It has to be as fast as a Bugatti Veyron, handle like an F1 car, seat 6 comfortably, look like a McLaren P1, use all electric power with in-body solar charging capable of generating a 500km range in an afternoon, and be no more expensive than a Scion. Until then, I'll hang on to my old piston-slapper.

 

[ahsanford]

Yet another thread in wish we all hope Canon does the 3-4 things it needs to do to compete in mirrorless.

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[LukasS]

Interesting grouping. Hadn't considered it before but Cinema EOS is also mirrorless. But if they're not going to play catch-up, then what? Leap frog to the front? Looking at one of the other threads, again a big difference between (say) Arri & Canon is sensor performance at high ISO/low light. When is Canon going to fix that?

Well, they are working on 8K so this decision may push more resources to R&D in that segment.

 

[Diltiazem]

There seems to be two main types of users of mirrorless.

One uses it as a primary camera.
The other as a second or third camera, mainly to travel light.

So far, Canon's target has been the second group. If Canon wants to be serious about mirrorless it probably needs to target the first group with new robust and feature rich products and upgrade the existing line for the second group.

I think Canon now realizes that mirrorless is not a big threat to their existing DSLR line. More people actually prefer OVF and DSLR size than mirrorless and its smaller size.

 

[eric_ykchan]

Surprise the market with a even more entry level white EOS-M

 

[Don Haines]

OH! OH! OH!!!!!!

A mirrorless 1DX2!

That would certainly be a surprise

 

[JoeDavid]

I really like the Fuji X series and, with the X-Pro2 coming in at 24MP, it may be when I finally add a mirrorless body and lens to my camera equipment. I'll wait for someone to get a full review out with information on the DR of the new Fuji sensor before I decide. That should give Canon to make this rumor happen if it is going to. I can't imagine it will actually be something I'll get excited about. The last few times Canon has promised great things in teaser ads, they have turned out to be duds in terms of what I'm looking for.

 

[rrcphoto]

IMO the most we get is an EOS-M3x which is basically an EOS-M + G5X body.

anyone thinking / wanting more than that .. get prepared to cry.

it really don't make economical sense for canon to do it.

the real suprise would be that it actually works right - unlike the m3

 

[overniven]

The odds seem pretty slim that Canon will make surprise anyone, especially since they've been so conservative rolling out the M line.

At this point, I'm quite tempted to pick up a Fujifilm

I did pick up an M3 that I bought (with EVF) for ~$400, and I do like it, but there is a lot of quirkiness in it that reminds me of early 2000's digital camera problems (lagginess, poor battery life), although it's not nearly as bad as others make it out to be. I for one, would like to see what Canon has on their road map for this class of camera (sub $2000), but I might not wait. It sure seems that they have too few engineers to handle all these different lines effectively.

I'd love to see some more enthusiast native lenses from Canon. Perhaps a much better standard zoom, a couple more primes and/or a Macro lens of some substance. I don't need FF, but I'd love to see one available for those that do.

 

[josephandrews222]

I typically use my camera for ultra-long distance backpacking, where every oz. counts. Point and shoot cameras are popular in that world, but the images are never the best quality. The Canon M3 has been the best compromise for me, offering control, superb imagery, detachable lenses, and, most importantly, light weight. Though few people ever talk about it in this forum, weight, even to a ½ oz., is extremely critical. Because the camera gets tossed around a lot, and it is impossible to really keep it clean when on the trail for months at a time, operational durability in such harsh environments becomes critical. I wait anxiously for the next M series camera with this in mind.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner (great second post, doc).

I own both the M1 and the M2; they weigh in at 298g and 274g, respectively.

The M3 weighs in at 366g (again including battery).

The combination of small size and light weight have done the trick with our family...plus my daughters LOVE taking photos and videos with their M's.

It is fascinating to read the variety of responses on this forum to Canon's mirrorless efforts.

To me, Canon's M platform has already supplied us with hundreds of photos that are generally superior to and at least the equal of anything a point-and-shoot could provide.

The 22mm and 11-22mm lenses are on mine 95% of the time; the kids stick with the 22mm.

I'm a broken record on the M's features here: I don't care about a viewfinder, but I do like an on-board flash (and my kids would, too...as they now understand that when you REALLY need a flash is when it is sunny outside and you're trying to take people pix!). The M3's flash almost persuaded me but I've decided to wait (for now).

But first-and-foremost: small size and light weight are paramount.

 

[tchen4]

My best guess is a new line of FF mirrorless with a fixed lens. The lens would be a 35L mk2 clone or wider. This new camera will compete with Sony RX1R2 directly. In the mean time, it won't compete with any of Canon's current products at all!

 

[Rick]

If Canon wants to do high-end mirrorless, they need to do so without associating it with the EOS M line.

 

[JPAZ]

Interesting. I have this thing called an EOS-M (first emulation) that takes pretty good photos. I got it during the $199 fire sale. But, the shutter lag drives me nuts, the lack of a reasonable VF makes handling it for steady shots hard and the battery life is not stellar. It spends a lot of time in a case in the closet. And, since there are now two newer versions (M2 and M3), I can't even sell it.

So when I am interested in nice photos, I haul my 5Diii along. When a "P&S" is a better fit, I' can use my wife's RX100iii. Whatever Canon has planned would need to be pretty fabulous for me to even think about jumping on it.

 

[tpatana]

So 1DX2 is mirrorless?

 

[tpatana]

If they deliver:

High-Mpix kick-ass mirrorless that has no compromises, high DR, takes EF lenses native and $3k price tag.

Take my money.

 

[infared]

I really like the Fuji X series and, with the X-Pro2 coming in at 24MP, it may be when I finally add a mirrorless body and lens to my camera equipment. I'll wait for someone to get a full review out with information on the DR of the new Fuji sensor before I decide. That should give Canon to make this rumor happen if it is going to. I can't imagine it will actually be something I'll get excited about. The last few times Canon has promised great things in teaser ads, they have turned out to be duds in terms of what I'm looking for.

Yeah...I REALLY love my Olympus cameras when I want to go light...It's a really complete small system and it just keeps getting better and better. They are such a pleasure to use that it makes photography really, really fun! There is a joy and fluidity there. It does not replace my 5DIII Kit, no doubt.., but it compliments it nicely. Fuji is a different take on mirrorless, and a good one as well from what I have read. I am not expecting any changes in my choices with whatever Canon brings to the mirrorless table... I have a huge commitment in my mirrorless kit...it won't be changing by one announcement from a company that has shown no real commitment to a great segment of photography. ...but I look forward to hearing what's up.

 

[Rocky]

It is an idea that will not goes well most of the posters: Give me a EOS M( original) with FAST and ACCURATE AF with the same size and menu.

 

[3kramd5]

If they deliver:

High-Mpix kick-ass mirrorless that has no compromises, high DR, takes EF lenses native and $3k price tag.

Take my money.

There's no such thing as a product without compromises. Eliminating the mirror necessarily compromises battery life and having large dedicated sensors for autofocus.

 

[tpatana]

If they deliver:

High-Mpix kick-ass mirrorless that has no compromises, high DR, takes EF lenses native and $3k price tag.

Take my money.

There's no such thing as a product without compromises. Eliminating the mirror necessarily compromises battery life and having large dedicated sensors for autofocus.

Depends. Keep the 1DX2 frame and make it mirrorless. You can easily have battery which is not compromise. AF is different, but for that I'm ok to give some. I was thinking kick-ass studio body so AF I can leave for other bodies.