EOS 7D Mark II Spec List Surfaces [CR1]
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Lee Jay said:
I don't get all this hate on 1 series body style, with so many grips sold and so many using grips - I don't get it, why wouldn't you want a second set of controls for portrait orientation shooting????????
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Lichtgestalt said:
This must be a joke. I use a 3.7mp 27'' inch display every day, sitting next to an 23" 2mp one. The difference is night and day.
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Just calculated that wow 8mp display. Only if tv would catch up to laptop display resolutions we could then really take advantage of the high end MP camera...
there is already so many pixels combined and compressed to get it on a display now...
look at the new Microsoft surface 1920x1080 or 2mp in 10 in screen convert that to to my 55" screen I would have 10,560x 5940 or about 62MP screen at 55", now that would be a screen instead of the minor 4k update everyone's worried about.
there is already so many pixels combined and compressed to get it on a display now...
look at the new Microsoft surface 1920x1080 or 2mp in 10 in screen convert that to to my 55" screen I would have 10,560x 5940 or about 62MP screen at 55", now that would be a screen instead of the minor 4k update everyone's worried about.
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Chuck Alaimo said:
It's heavy, too big, doesn't fit in my waist bag, and it useless to me on 99.9% of my shots. I have shot 150,000 shots on cameras without grips and have never even shopped around for a grip for them. Every time I shoot on someone else's gripped camera I find it uncomfortable, and every time I've use a 1 series I've found them next to impossible to use at all. I have little hands and can't even touch the shutter release with my hand positioned properly on the grip.
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Lee Jay said:
an average sized hand should fit a 1 series body fine, or any other body with a grip. You have smaller than average hands, so, unless you get a custom design body, then your stuck with camera bodies designed for average sized hands.
If the grip is too big, how do you even hold a non gripped 5d, or a 7d? Sounds like you need a much smaller body in general...
either way, the point is, your also asking for 1d specs in a much smaller cheaper body, just not happening....if the grip is too big for you, then so will this new 7d....
and PS...not attacking you directly, your like the sixth person I have seen on here hating on the built in grip...
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I figure it's whatever works for you... I have large hands, a 1DX fits my hands beautifully, a 1DX is very nice to hold in portrait mode... I find the larger bodies easier to hold steady than smaller bodies. It also seems to be as solid as a hammer with great weather-sealing. However, a 1DX is a lot heavier to take on a hike and it needs a huge pelican case to take on canoe trips, .... Given the choice between a 1DX and a 7DII, most of the time outside I would be carrying the 7DII... It's not a hate of the 1DX, it's just that the form factor does not meet my needs. If I were a studio photographer I would be saying the opposite.Chuck Alaimo said:
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+1 I also have a 3.7mp 27" display and a 24" 2mp display on my desktop.... and all the "real work" is done on the 27" display because the images are so much better and I have much greater detail. Across the lab there is a 4K display and the detail on it is even better.... I wish I had it on my desk.... 1920x1080 is now a low-res monitor.....Pi said:
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Chuck Alaimo said:
My 5D fits my hand like it was made for me. My 20D is just a tiny bit too small but still comfortable. My T2i is way too small and horribly uncomfortable to use for any length of time.
I am not. I'm not asking for the built in grip, the weather sealing, or the high frame rate of the 1Dx. I'm asking for a 5D4 with the same basic sensor technology and features of the rumor. The 5D3 is almost there except for the sensor.
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WPJ said:
2K video is 1920x1080
4K video is 3840x2160
8K video is 7680x4320
When I first saw 4K video (about 4 years ago) the quality of it just blew me away... even though we had to display it on a 2x2 matrix of monitors... 8K video is even better, you even have sharp detail right up close to the displays... but at this point we seem to be hitting the law of diminishing returns. Personally I would say 4K video is twice as good as 2K, but there is no way I would say 8K video is twice as good as 4K.... 4K seems to be the sweet spot...
Affordable cameras with 4K video? Keep in mind that a GoPro shoots 4K video at 15fps and stores it on a micro-sd card.... I wonder what a pair of Digic5+ can do....
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AdamJ said:
It's easy to get the antenna out of a "full mag alloy" body... look at a picture of one, they are so full of holes and openings that it puts a swiss cheese to shame... it's all the stuff outside the metal body that provides the weather sealing...
Plastics and composites are not always a bad thing. You can have plastics that outperform metals for many uses, particularly when it comes to temperature stability. That's what we use in a lot of the portable satcom dishes and there are a lot of carbon-fibre dishes up in orbit....
as to built in flash.... I hope not... they are so weak as to be useless and if you use a large lens you get shadows...
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..."that awful 1-series body"...are you serious? You're sounding a little like someone who has never worked with a 1-Series EOS body.Lee Jay said:
If you work with cameras on a daily basis, settling for anything less than a 1-Series body can feel like a compromise, especially in a dynamic shooting situation. Mind you, I'm not saying that non-1-Series bodies are flawed, it's just that the 1-Series is so far out in front it's not funny. You definitely get what you pay for.
edit: FWIW a gripped 5D3 is taller, thicker and slightly heavier than my 1D4
-pw
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I'd welcome classy EVF. We're probably not there yet, but it's getting better with just about every new release. Look at the latest Olympus OM-D. Sooner than you might imagine, we'll look back at the dark old days where we had to struggle along with those crumby old optical viewfinders. I can't wait.MichaelHodges said:
-pw
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Lee Jay said:
This is pure speculation though...this is a rumor of a spec list, nothing confirmed....but you somehow feel that this sensor will be that much better than the mk3's? It's still an APS-C, so even if it's the very best APS-C sensor ever made the look and feel of a FF sensor may still win. Either way, I can't accept this as a rational statement because as far as any of us are concerned this sensor does not exist! Come back to me with this statement in a year when we at least start seeing some test images and other data. This is a CR1 rumor for crying out loud.
And, personal preference.... I don't want the 5d4 to be that at all....leave the sports line to the 7d and the 1dx, for the 5d4 I like what the current 5d3 has to offer...keep the frame rate the same, up the MP's, 2 CF card slots, improved low ISO performance, and yeah, a bit better low light (not that what is currently there is bad at all)...
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You gave it a whole thirty seconds? Well that's certainly plenty long enough to get to know the 1D3 intimately.Lee Jay said:
Look, they may not work for you and that's perfectly fine, but yours isn't the sole valid viewpoint on the planet in regards to 1-Series bodies.
-pw
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Lee Jay said:
You don't need zero lag, you just need less lag than the user can perceive. I am told that people can not notice less than 20 milliseconds of lag... Olympus is now at 29ms with the OM-D EM-1... still not there but getting very close... I can't notice the delay on static objects but if I look hard and concentrate I can see it when I pan. ( I have not tried the OM-D EM-1.... that's with a PEN and the OV-4, allegedly the same viewfinder the OM-D EM-5 uses)
Also, an optical viewfinder is not zero lag, it is between 1.5 and 2 nanoseconds, depending on your camera
Zero power usage is a bit misleading too... the question should be how does the power usage of the EVF compare to the power usage of the shutter/mirror motors.
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