EOS 7D Mark II Spec List Surfaces [CR1]
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jrbdmb said:"Very good ISO performance"
Which just means they cranked up the JPG noise reduction again.
Now when they start talking about real improvements in RAW ISO performance, then I'll listen.
Do you really think a low pixel density mediocre focusing low frame rate 6D competes against a high pixel density very high-end focusing fast frame rate camera? I sure don't. I have both kinds of cameras and I generally use them for entirely different situations. That's why I want both.
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x-vision said:
it has a place....because none of the FF options have anywhere near the fps the 7d2 will have. the 7d2 is not for me by any means, but, it will be for a lot of people (sports, wildlife, etc, etc)
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I hope the single memory card slot is just a prototype version... I was looking at the new Pentax K3, and it's as good as the 7D MkI with dual card slots. I am glad Canon is putting GPS into the new 7D. For photographing wildlife, it's a great to know where as well as when you took the shot of some critter.
As for the rest of the feature, it's a along time coming, and I hope Canon keeps the 7D on par with the 5D and 1D series in future versions.
As for the rest of the feature, it's a along time coming, and I hope Canon keeps the 7D on par with the 5D and 1D series in future versions.
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WPJ said:
I can't wait until they bump monitor res way up.
And go oled for super deep blacks and 10bits to make up for needing more tones for such high DR displays.
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Lichtgestalt said:
just you
come on even on a 10" ipad regular vs 'retina' makes all the difference in the world, when I look at 2k on my 24" it looks hideously block after using my retina ipad for a while and it sure as heck shows hideously less detail than a 24" print!! Seriously did you ever hear anyone say that there is no point printing unless you print 60" or larger because you won't see the extra detail anyway? no? well the same should apply to displays.
the whole nonsene about needing huge screens to see 4k is old wives tale garbage, some of the same people said the exact same thing about 1080P!
oh and ever notice how crappy video games look if you turn off AA even if you are running 2k at 24"? yeah that is because 2k is freaking LOW res even on a 24" screen never mind a 48 or 60". Does a 2k 55" screen seem like looking out a window or watching a sporting event in the stands? no? yeah because 2k is LOW res for that size.
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ITshooter said:
5D3 ML RAW video sets a high bar, they can't hold back on the next DSLR and play more silly internal market segmentation games otherwise they will get eaten up by the outside market
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Lichtgestalt said:Lee Jay said:
did you read my posting before making that lame comment?
i guess not.
oh so you are filming for your PC monitor... that does not have 4k resolution either.
and i thought most of these high-end, high-res videos will be watched on TV.
but yes when i, one day, have the bandwith i may enjoy 4k youtube files on my 30 inch 4096×2304 pixel monitor... from 50 cm away.
if... NEC or EIZO will make a 4k 30 inch monitor that doesn´t cost 8000 euro. ;D
still.. 4k will be useless for the majority.
in the link i posted the author describes why.. better then i could with my broken english.
that cnet guy has no clue
it's not like they are true experts, the real experts are actual engineers/scientists/etc.
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Lee Jay said:
Exactly, it's so funny that 90% of the crowd going on about how you need lie a 75" screen to even see 1080p nevermind 4k then turn around and laugh at people who view images on monitors and say that you need to print and then most print on 19"-24" printers! Umm what? It doesn't compute. So 1080p is already far too much overkill for a 24"-30" monitor because 1080p is a 'waste' below 55" and yet don't dare ever view images on a monitor because they are not crisp like a good 19" print LOL! At least pick one story and stick to it.
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Chuck Alaimo said:
Correct me if I'm wrong Chuck, but don't you mean to add....."it has a place....because none of the FF options have anywhere near the fps the 7d2 will have...in this price range"?
As far as x-vision and Traveller's comments go, I think the success of the 7d says all one needs to know about it's place in the Canon lineup. The 7d has developed a huge following and the 70d is nothing less than a gateway camera into the 7d. All those folks that dropped $1100 on the 70d will no doubt lust after the 7d2, as I am sure Canon hopes. The only worry I have is that no camera could possibly live up to this much hype; even if the hype is driven by the market as opposed to the company. Canon has to acknowledge the expectations it is placing on itself regarding the 7d2 with the 7d passing 4 years of service. While my expectations are certainly high for the 7d2 I do not think it will disappoint me; but I am not expecting a mini 1DX, as some folks do either.
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Yup. As mentioned before. A mini-1DX.
While I think the specs are totally doable, I certainly don't think the price is. Except for the crop-sensor, it's as good if not better than a 1DX. I think IQ is SO GOOD on crop sensors these days, the absolute need for FF is becoming less and less. I think they would leave out the 2nd slot. Because that's a 'Pro' feature.
It would cost AT LEAST $3k. Even at that price, it would be a HOT seller. Especially for the action-oriented.
I think it would eat SOME of the 1DX market, but not much. They'd lose some sales on the top, but more than make up for it at the bottom. In the end, they'd make more sales and profit. After all, Rebels is where Canon makes the big money on DSLR sales. That's why they come out with a new Rebel every year...
March would be a good time. I would expect their big MP camera to arrive shortly thereafter. It's going to be an awesome 2014 for Canon
While I think the specs are totally doable, I certainly don't think the price is. Except for the crop-sensor, it's as good if not better than a 1DX. I think IQ is SO GOOD on crop sensors these days, the absolute need for FF is becoming less and less. I think they would leave out the 2nd slot. Because that's a 'Pro' feature.
It would cost AT LEAST $3k. Even at that price, it would be a HOT seller. Especially for the action-oriented.
I think it would eat SOME of the 1DX market, but not much. They'd lose some sales on the top, but more than make up for it at the bottom. In the end, they'd make more sales and profit. After all, Rebels is where Canon makes the big money on DSLR sales. That's why they come out with a new Rebel every year...
March would be a good time. I would expect their big MP camera to arrive shortly thereafter. It's going to be an awesome 2014 for Canon
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The 7D is the flagship of the APS-C range, so I can’t see the Mkii having a FF sensor, it does, however; need to better the 70D spec wise or what’s the point. Canon should be looking at using their flagship APS-C as the ideal place for something brand new, this will then filter down through the range in years to come, personally I think we may be in for a nice surprise with the final spec’s of this model.
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Lichtgestalt said:
As mentioned, people who say 4K is too much resolution are just kidding themselves, and/or click fishing by posting controversial articles.
The one concession I can make is that if all you're looking at is horribly blurry, shaky cam hollywood garbage (usually rendered in 2K) then of course you can't see the difference. If you're actually looking at something with a lot of detail the difference will be dramatic.
Don Haines said:
I'm convinced that 8K is still nowhere close to perfectly reproducing a slice of the vision of the average human. It would be interesting to compare some 30" prints at varying resolutions and see what people prefer on those.
We already have everything we need to run 4K so that's a shoe in, but 8K is... a bit more bandwidth intensive. As soon as we have all the right technology in place I think 8K will be the standard resolution for the rest of the century.
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drjlo said:
Current crop sensor performance is not problem at all _in_good_light_ so if the 7d2 is really an 1d-style sealed body with af performance and firmware features of 5d3 or better tons of people will buy it just for the 1.6x crop factor.
For not so good light and the best iq esp. above iso 1600 no current crop sensor can compete with a ff, not Sony, not Nikon, not Canon - so this is hardly something to complain about.
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TrabimanUK
In the words of Brian Johnson - "Shoot to thrill!"
All we need now is the 100-400mm MK2 to be announced at the same time and then Atlantis will probably rise from the oceans
Saying that, for $2000, so probably £2000 (as they like to overcharge us in the UK), I'd settle for a camera with those kind of specs and happily put up with a new member of the European Union rising from the sea.
Saying that, for $2000, so probably £2000 (as they like to overcharge us in the UK), I'd settle for a camera with those kind of specs and happily put up with a new member of the European Union rising from the sea.
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