EOS 7D Mark II Spec List Surfaces [CR1]

[Chuck Alaimo]

correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't the area set aside for the flash replaced by the wifi antennae? Isn't that one of the reasons the 6d, which is more geared towards the consumer crowd than the 7d2, didn't get a pop up flash? I thought it was something to do with the body construction (type of metal would block wifi signal and weather sealing, so they had to put the wifi antennae outside of that shell in that little nub the pop up flash would go).

Note that the 70D has a pop-up flash and WiFi....


You can put the WiFi antenna anywhere, but the top is the best position....

The GPS antenna is a lot more restrictive, the best signal comes when it is mounted on the top...

Even if the antennas are not on top, you still get a signal, just not as good. Typically the cameras are used in portrait mode and carried lens-down... so the top side/back edge is the preferred position.

Again, in a non weather sealed body, I had read that somewhere, in a non weather sealed body they put wholes in the casing to allow the signal to get through --- the need to put it outside thecasing was more for weather sealing purposes, at least from what I read.

 

[Loswr]

Again, in a non weather sealed body, I had read that somewhere, in a non weather sealed body they put wholes in the casing to allow the signal to get through --- the need to put it outside thecasing was more for weather sealing purposes, at least from what I read.

I think you read misinformation. The 1D X is as weather sealed as a Canon dSLR gets, and it's magnesium alloy shell has more holes than Swiss cheese...

 

[Don Haines]

Again, in a non weather sealed body, I had read that somewhere, in a non weather sealed body they put wholes in the casing to allow the signal to get through --- the need to put it outside thecasing was more for weather sealing purposes, at least from what I read.

I think you read misinformation. The 1D X is as weather sealed as a Canon dSLR gets, and it's magnesium alloy shell has more holes than Swiss cheese...

You beat me to it.....

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

Again, in a non weather sealed body, I had read that somewhere, in a non weather sealed body they put wholes in the casing to allow the signal to get through --- the need to put it outside thecasing was more for weather sealing purposes, at least from what I read.

I think you read misinformation. The 1D X is as weather sealed as a Canon dSLR gets, and it's magnesium alloy shell has more holes than Swiss cheese...

ok, color me wrong...it was a while ago i had heard that though, back when the first releases the 6d

 

[Don Haines]

Again, in a non weather sealed body, I had read that somewhere, in a non weather sealed body they put wholes in the casing to allow the signal to get through --- the need to put it outside thecasing was more for weather sealing purposes, at least from what I read.

I think you read misinformation. The 1D X is as weather sealed as a Canon dSLR gets, and it's magnesium alloy shell has more holes than Swiss cheese...

ok, color me wrong...it was a while ago i had heard that though, back when the first releases the 6d

The big problem in RF is how to block signals...

 

[Ruined]

correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't the area set aside for the flash replaced by the wifi antennae? Isn't that one of the reasons the 6d, which is more geared towards the consumer crowd than the 7d2, didn't get a pop up flash? I thought it was something to do with the body construction (type of metal would block wifi signal and weather sealing, so they had to put the wifi antennae outside of that shell in that little nub the pop up flash would go).

I'll be honest, Canon makes up a lot of BS and excuses for leaving out features either for differentiation or for cost purposes. Pop up flash, wifi, and GPS are all able to be fit in a body. Example no headphone jack on the 70D - "we ran out of room," yeah, ok... I'm sure there are absolutely no free spaces anywhere on the 70D body, lol. Cell phones 1/10th the size and 1/10th the cost of the 7D have wifi, gps, flash, headphone jack, usb port, and a whole lot more. Canon is just trying to balance 'product differentiation' and costs, but often makes up nonsensical excuses when pushed on why something was not included.

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

correct me if I'm wrong, but, isn't the area set aside for the flash replaced by the wifi antennae? Isn't that one of the reasons the 6d, which is more geared towards the consumer crowd than the 7d2, didn't get a pop up flash? I thought it was something to do with the body construction (type of metal would block wifi signal and weather sealing, so they had to put the wifi antennae outside of that shell in that little nub the pop up flash would go).

to be honest, the pop up flash is so useless that I often wondered why it was on the original 7d. I get the pop up flash for the entry level models, the rebels and the XXD series, but a pop up flash on a prosumer model....seems like a waste of real estate....

I'll be honest, Canon makes up a lot of BS and excuses for leaving out features either for differentiation or for cost purposes. Pop up flash, wifi, and GPS are all able to be fit in a body. Example no headphone jack on the 70D - "we ran out of room," yeah, ok... I'm sure there are absolutely no free spaces anywhere on the 70D body, lol. Cell phones 1/10th the size and 1/10th the cost of the 7D have wifi, gps, flash, headphone jack, usb port, and a whole lot more. Canon is just trying to balance 'product differentiation' and costs, but often makes up nonsensical excuses when pushed on why something was not included.

 

[Loswr]

to be honest, the pop up flash is so useless that I often wondered why it was on the original 7d. I get the pop up flash for the entry level models, the rebels and the XXD series, but a pop up flash on a prosumer model....seems like a waste of real estate....

The 7D was the first camera able to be an optical master for Speedlites (via that popup flash), and that's a very useful capability in a prosumer model.

Of course, with the current RT system, the camera could be the master without the onboard flash - and I hope we see that someday!

 

[noel]

Why only one slot, do you think?

N

 

[Marsu42]

Why only one slot, do you think?

Either it's a rather compact model so that 2 cf slots don't fit, Canon doesn't want combined cf/sd, or (more likely) Canon plays the good ol' "professional use should be expensive" game and reserves mission-critical features like a backup slot for the 5d3+ line.

 

[StudentOfLight]

I still think single SD or CF card could cause a bottleneck in the data pipepline. If you do the calculations you'll see that 24MP at 10fps is a higher data rate than the 1DX so I doubt it will actually be that much. It is more likely to be around 23.3MP (like 5D-III) and 9fps, which would still be an improvement on the 7D. Those numbers at least seem to be inline with the capability of the dual-digic5+ architecture as seen in the 1DX.

I've seen talk of improved video capability. I hope this means in-camera HDR-video. I'm sure Canon knows what the Magic lantern guys get up to in their spare time... Surely this could be on the cards right??? Staying on the topic of video, I would be shocked if it didn't have a headphone-out jack. I think the lack of headphone jack on the 70D is a deliberate omission to allow room for differentiation with the 7D-II...

Built-in Wifi and GPS makes sense for this type of sports/action/wildlife camera. It is essential that it has a "Rate" button like 5D-III. For working action photographers this is a kick-ass addition which really speeds up your workflow.

OSD

 

[Zv]

to be honest, the pop up flash is so useless that I often wondered why it was on the original 7d. I get the pop up flash for the entry level models, the rebels and the XXD series, but a pop up flash on a prosumer model....seems like a waste of real estate....

The 7D was the first camera able to be an optical master for Speedlites (via that popup flash), and that's a very useful capability in a prosumer model.

Of course, with the current RT system, the camera could be the master without the onboard flash - and I hope we see that someday!

The pop up flash as an optical master is actually quite useful in the 7D. It was my first time trying out off camera flash on the cheap using a 320EX. And when I moved up to radio triggers it served as my back up. When traveling it's nice to be able to leave the triggers at home and just simplifies off camera flash on the fly. I leave the pop up in optical master mode for quick portraits when out and about with a 430EX. Very compact and flexible lighting set up. I honestly miss that with the 5D, but with the Yongnuo 560III I only need one additional small radio trigger so maybe it's OK! (Still one extra thing to fumble with and put batteries in though).

 

[dolina]

If the Mark II will indeed share the same AF system as the 5D Mark III and 1D X I hope they will allow for f/8 autofocus.

 

[WPJ]

If the Mark II will indeed share the same AF system as the 5D Mark III and 1D X I hope they will allow for f/8 autofocus.

hopefully more like 1dx, which is way better than 5d as it has a dedicated af CPU, where the 5d uses the main digic.

my hope / vote is for dedicated af CPU...

 

[dolina]

If the Mark II will indeed share the same AF system as the 5D Mark III and 1D X I hope they will allow for f/8 autofocus.

hopefully more like 1dx, which is way better than 5d as it has a dedicated af CPU, where the 5d uses the main digic.

my hope / vote is for dedicated af CPU...

You can buy two 5D3s for every one 1DX.

 

[Loswr]

If the Mark II will indeed share the same AF system as the 5D Mark III and 1D X I hope they will allow for f/8 autofocus.

hopefully more like 1dx, which is way better than 5d as it has a dedicated af CPU, where the 5d uses the main digic.

my hope / vote is for dedicated af CPU...

What gives you that idea?

The Digic4 chip in the 1D X is dedicated to metering, not AF (although it does feed metering data into the AF system to support face detection/tracking).

Both the 5DIII and 1D X have a dedicated AF processor. Here's how CPN describes it for the 5DIII:

[quote author=CPN]
Achieving this speed and accuracy in the AF algorithm requires a large amount of focus data to be processed quickly. This has been done by the use of distributed processing where both a dedicated AF processor and a camera CPU process data. The dedicated AF processor is four times faster than the one found in the EOS-1D Mark IV.
[/quote]

 

[WPJ]

If the Mark II will indeed share the same AF system as the 5D Mark III and 1D X I hope they will allow for f/8 autofocus.

hopefully more like 1dx, which is way better than 5d as it has a dedicated af CPU, where the 5d uses the main digic.

my hope / vote is for dedicated af CPU...

You can buy two 5D3s for every one 1DX.

and your point is. Its a wish...and people keep saying that they are the same auto focus system but they are not.

 

[dolina]

If the Mark II will indeed share the same AF system as the 5D Mark III and 1D X I hope they will allow for f/8 autofocus.

hopefully more like 1dx, which is way better than 5d as it has a dedicated af CPU, where the 5d uses the main digic.

my hope / vote is for dedicated af CPU...

You can buy two 5D3s for every one 1DX.

and your point is. Its a wish...and people keep saying that they are the same auto focus system but they are not.

More Digic chips = more cash out.

 

[WPJ]

If the Mark II will indeed share the same AF system as the 5D Mark III and 1D X I hope they will allow for f/8 autofocus.

hopefully more like 1dx, which is way better than 5d as it has a dedicated af CPU, where the 5d uses the main digic.

my hope / vote is for dedicated af CPU...

You can buy two 5D3s for every one 1DX.

and your point is. Its a wish...and people keep saying that they are the same auto focus system but they are not.

More Digic chips = more cash out.

also equals better camera

 

[Loswr]

...and people keep saying that they are the same auto focus system but they are not.

Actually, they are the same in terms of components - same sensor, same dedicated AF processor. As I stated above, your statement that the 5DIII lacks a dedicated AF processor is incorret. The difference is the metering system of the 1D X feeds data into the AF system to allow for face recognition and tracking (although Canon warns that using iTR may slow down AF).