First Images & More Specifications for the Canon EOS 6D Mark II Leak

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I've been playing with my 5D MK III and solar filter this morning, and wondering if the DPAF of a 6D II or 80D would do better. I can AF on the sun with a 1.4 TC on my 100-400, but the image is not as sharp as I'd like. I was pretty sloppy with shutter speed, and setting it on my wooden deck, so that may be the issue. I was not able to do a good job of MF, I can't use the 5 or 10 X on the LCD, one slip and I'm looking directly at the sun and go blind for a few seconds, so I'm using my Iphone remotely, but I cannot do 5X with the gadget I use. It will focus stack, so I'll play with that. It does only a fair job of focusing with 1.4 TC in live view but I'm two stops down or f/16.

I saw a employee deal for the 80D with kit lens for $766 plus tax this morning, and wondered if that would do. But, additional $300 for GPS, and I'm getting closer to a 6D MK II price and thats for a refurb camera. I'd also have to purchase a wider lens like a 16-35mmL to get equivalent AOV to a FF with my 24-70. The 6D MK II is looking better for a 2nd body as I look at the whole package. So, maybe I should be looking at 6D II versus 5D MK IV at 3K. I think I'll try the 80D and 5D MK IV out at my local camera store.

 

[unfocused]

It's also fascinating how the trolls always have something.

First it was DR. Now it's 4k. Next it'll be... ?

IBIS and Eye AF should now top the list, but in the near future it will be 6K and disproportionately higher fps. Sony is dramatically overspec'ing their fps vs the market right now: 12 fps in the D810/5D space, 20 fps in the D5/1DX space, etc.

- A

Autofocus generally. There is some legitimacy to the issue, because Canon could improve it's autofocus. But, the other side of the coin is that it is perfect for internet whiners because until any fool can have a 100% keeper rate, autofocus will never be good enough.

 

[LonelyBoy]

It's also fascinating how the trolls always have something.

First it was DR. Now it's 4k. Next it'll be... ?

IBIS and Eye AF should now top the list, but in the near future it will be 6K and disproportionately higher fps. Sony is dramatically overspec'ing their fps vs the market right now: 12 fps in the D810/5D space, 20 fps in the D5/1DX space, etc.

- A

Autofocus generally. There is some legitimacy to the issue, because Canon could improve it's autofocus. But, the other side of the coin is that it is perfect for internet whiners because until any fool can have a 100% keeper rate, autofocus will never be good enough.

The problem with AF for internet bragging is it's all about spec sheets - you can talk about number of points, or frame coverage, but hit rate is almost impossible to objectively compare. And the trolls are all about the identifiable, quantifiable differences.

 

[Don Haines]

It's also fascinating how the trolls always have something.

First it was DR. Now it's 4k. Next it'll be... ?

IBIS and Eye AF should now top the list, but in the near future it will be 6K and disproportionately higher fps. Sony is dramatically overspec'ing their fps vs the market right now: 12 fps in the D810/5D space, 20 fps in the D5/1DX space, etc.

- A

Autofocus generally. There is some legitimacy to the issue, because Canon could improve it's autofocus. But, the other side of the coin is that it is perfect for internet whiners because until any fool can have a 100% keeper rate, autofocus will never be good enough.

As said before, If your standards are low enough, every shot can be a keeper.....

 

[LonelyBoy]

As said before, If your standards are low enough, every shot can be a keeper.....

Hey, you found one of my first shots with my old Powershot A90! 8)

 

[Macoose]

I trust Brian at TDP more so than DPR. The same can be said for D. Abbott.

You are wise for thinking that. PhotoZone and LensTip also have a lot of useful data to consider. However, avoid DXO like the plague when it comes to lens reviews.

LensRentals.com is also your best friend if you are stumped choosing between two lenses. Renting both lenses for a weekend of real-use-case shooting will almost always settle the matter for you. You'll appreciate things other than 'horsepower specs' of sharpness / FL range / what the max aperture is / if it has IS. A good weekend rental will tell you:

• How quickly / accurately / consistently it focuses, especially with large aperture primes
• If it has an annoying hood attachment, or if reversing the hood blocks any lens switches or buttons
• If it's overly heavy or cumbersome to carry, it's its awkwardly unbalanced on your chosen body, if you need to shoot with monopod perhaps, etc.
• If you shoot with a teleconverter, you can not only see the output of using it (which TDP posts as well), but you also get a feel for what the AF experience with the teleconverter will be like
• What's up with any weird photographic minutiae that might not be at the top of the normal reviewers' lists but might be a really big deal for you: coma, focus shift, AF or IS noise during video recording, etc.
• How easy third party AF calibration is with Sigma and Tamron glass (if you are considering a recent lens from them that's f/2.8 or quicker, I'd 100% get the dock to try out)

I cannot recommend renting highly enough if there is any doubt in your mind.

- A

Thanks,

I think I need to clarify the quote of mine you posted.
I was not trying to imply that D. Abbott's reviews are not trustworthy. I actually like Mr. Abbott's reviews and think he does a thorough presentation.

When I read my quote for the second time, I thought it could be misconstrued.
I hope no one took it wrong.

Macoose

 

[ahsanford]

I think I need to clarify the quote of mine you posted.
I was not trying to imply that D. Abbott's reviews are not trustworthy. I actually like Mr. Abbott's reviews and think he does a thorough presentation.

No clarifier needed -- I didn't take your words the wrong way. Dustin's a regular poster here who does a splendid job, writes wonderfully thorough reviews and (best yet) fields questions from everyone here after he posts his work.

- A

 

[Jack Douglas]

Lovely shot Don! And a beautiful dog. You see with Canon you can't go wrong. Now if only I could find my glasses ...

Jack

 

[hne]

It's also fascinating how the trolls always have something.

First it was DR. Now it's 4k. Next it'll be... ?

IBIS and Eye AF should now top the list, but in the near future it will be 6K and disproportionately higher fps. Sony is dramatically overspec'ing their fps vs the market right now: 12 fps in the D810/5D space, 20 fps in the D5/1DX space, etc.

- A

Canon had Eye AF between 1998-2007. They must have assumed it is not an important feature to keep, otherwise the 1D would definitely have inherited that from the EOS-3.

Jokes aside; when you've already figured out what's a face and what's not it is trivial to also figure out where the eyes are. I really can't see why Canon hasn't implemented this yet.

 

[BillB]

It's also fascinating how the trolls always have something.

First it was DR. Now it's 4k. Next it'll be... ?

IBIS and Eye AF should now top the list, but in the near future it will be 6K and disproportionately higher fps. Sony is dramatically overspec'ing their fps vs the market right now: 12 fps in the D810/5D space, 20 fps in the D5/1DX space, etc.

- A

Canon had Eye AF between 1998-2007. They must have assumed it is not an important feature to keep, otherwise the 1D would definitely have inherited that from the EOS-3.

Jokes aside; when you've already figured out what's a face and what's not it is trivial to also figure out where the eyes are. I really can't see why Canon hasn't implemented this yet.

True enough. One question is whether a manufacturer will use this information to try to sell more cameras. Another question is whether it will be worth it for me to buy a camera that results. At the moment, the answer to the last question would seem to be no.

 

[Mikehit]

Am I misunderstanding something - Canon had eye controlled focus where tiny LEDs were used to recognise what the photographer was looking at, and this had mixed reliability according to some. But when you talk about 'recognising a face' you seem to be talking about face recognition and focus on the eye.

 

[Loswr]

Am I misunderstanding something - Canon had eye controlled focus where tiny LEDs were used to recognise what the photographer was looking at, and this had mixed reliability according to some. But when you talk about 'recognising a face' you seem to be talking about face recognition and focus on the eye.

Yes, you're missing something:

Jokes aside

 

[PureClassA]

Am I misunderstanding something - Canon had eye controlled focus where tiny LEDs were used to recognise what the photographer was looking at, and this had mixed reliability according to some. But when you talk about 'recognising a face' you seem to be talking about face recognition and focus on the eye.

Facial recognition from the AF tracking sensor is what, I believe, they are speaking of. My 1DX2 has this, as does a few other models if I'm not mistaken. The eye control thing was way back in the film days. The EOS Elan 7E. I still have one! Lol

 

[jolyonralph]

This is infuriating if true. Half my lenses are manual focus and all except one are f/2 or wider. I hope an aftermarket solution presents itself. I'm not going crop and I'm not buying a 1DX-II just to manual focus accurately.

Live View.

Or, if you don't like that, Sony A7 series with appropriate adaptors.

 

[BillB]

This is infuriating if true. Half my lenses are manual focus and all except one are f/2 or wider. I hope an aftermarket solution presents itself. I'm not going crop and I'm not buying a 1DX-II just to manual focus accurately.

Live View.

Or, if you don't like that, Sony A7 series with appropriate adaptors.

Or continue to use the 6D. For the longer term, one solution would be to by another 6D as a backup/replacement. A new 6D isn't all that expensive, and it should hold it's value pretty well since Canon isn't making any lower priced FF cameras with swappable lenses.