Here are the Canon EOS M6 Specifications

mangobutter said:
Canon needs to design 50mm equivalent lenses like the Fuji 35 1.4/2. A 28mm equivalent and a ultra wide prime. Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. And your 15-45mm 24-70 equivalent sucks too. Super soft.

The 22/2 is a gem (though needs an update, excessive CA at all apertures), but other than that Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. Bad.

oddly enough that 15-45 isn't that bad.. nor is the 11-22 nor is the 18-150 nor is really the 50-200.

needs to design? why?
 
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mangobutter said:
Canon needs to design 50mm equivalent lenses like the Fuji 35 1.4/2. A 28mm equivalent and a ultra wide prime. Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. And your 15-45mm 24-70 equivalent sucks too. Super soft.

The 22/2 is a gem (though needs an update, excessive CA at all apertures), but other than that Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. Bad.

You've obviously have never ran a business or understand how to run one
Does Fuji have a entire DSLR system? Lol.
 
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mangobutter said:
Canon needs to design 50mm equivalent lenses like the Fuji 35 1.4/2. A 28mm equivalent and a ultra wide prime. Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. And your 15-45mm 24-70 equivalent sucks too. Super soft.

The 22/2 is a gem (though needs an update, excessive CA at all apertures), but other than that Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. Bad.

The EF-M lineup is actually quite good. The 11-22mm lens is stellar, really only limited by the size of the sensor. The 28mm macro is excellent, and the built-in ring light is a nice touch. The 55-200 is a very capable lens, too. If you'e having trouble making good images with them, I suggest the problem is not with the gear...

"London Eye"

EOS M2, EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM @ 20mm, 2.5 s, f/7.1, ISO 400

"Down the Hatch"

EOS M2, EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM @ 200mm, 1/1600 s, f/6.3, ISO 800
 
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neuroanatomist said:
mangobutter said:
Canon needs to design 50mm equivalent lenses like the Fuji 35 1.4/2. A 28mm equivalent and a ultra wide prime. Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. And your 15-45mm 24-70 equivalent sucks too. Super soft.

The 22/2 is a gem (though needs an update, excessive CA at all apertures), but other than that Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. Bad.

The EF-M lineup is actually quite good. The 11-22mm lens is stellar, really only limited by the size of the sensor. The 28mm macro is excellent, and the built-in ring light is a nice touch. The 55-200 is a very capable lens, too. If you'e having trouble making good images with them, I suggest the problem is not with the gear...

fully agree.
all ef-m lenses so far are real winners, except optically weaker 15-45 kitlens.
11-22, 22, 28 are truly excellent lenses. 18-55, 18-150 abd 55-200 are definitely decent performers. all of them arr dirt-cheap compared to those fuji lenses. both fuji tele-zooms suck - despite much higher price.
 
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AvTvM said:
neuroanatomist said:
mangobutter said:
Canon needs to design 50mm equivalent lenses like the Fuji 35 1.4/2. A 28mm equivalent and a ultra wide prime. Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. And your 15-45mm 24-70 equivalent sucks too. Super soft.

The 22/2 is a gem (though needs an update, excessive CA at all apertures), but other than that Canon your mirrorless lens lineup sucks. Bad.

The EF-M lineup is actually quite good. The 11-22mm lens is stellar, really only limited by the size of the sensor. The 28mm macro is excellent, and the built-in ring light is a nice touch. The 55-200 is a very capable lens, too. If you'e having trouble making good images with them, I suggest the problem is not with the gear...

fully agree.
all ef-m lenses so far are real winners, except optically weaker 15-45 kitlens.

compared to it's compact peers it's a good performer.
 
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ExodistPhotography said:
I am still confused on the naming scheme.. How can they call it a M6, when the M5 could be the higher end and the M6 actually be the upgrade for the M3.. :o :-\

Was the backlash over the flip down screen so bad they had to rush out new M in less then a year??
I am thinking their choice of naming convention is very similar to their FF Dslr convention:

5D, 5D Mk II, 5D Mk III, then the 6D was introduced. Canon's M-lineup: M, M II (not released in US I believe), M III, M5, and now the soon to be released - M6, very similar spec wise to the M5, as was the 6D to the 5D III (sensor a little better, autofocus...well, apparently Canon has learned a lesson there, and other metrics similar but not quite on a par with the 5D III). I believe, since the M-series have a different target market (with some overlap appeal of course) they [Canon] can align the specs among the models more closely without too many worries from a marketing/sales perspective.
 
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neonlight said:
with a third party adapter I'm wondering whether to purchase an M series so I can use my FD50 f/1.4 (plus others) without having to buy an EF50 f/1.4 ... at least until EF50 F/xx II.. emerges from hibernation

https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=31808.0

"If this lens does come in 2017, we’re told the announcement would be late into Q4. So it looks like this will be a lens that will ship in 2018."

And, to my knowledge, though CR does occasionally drop the ball, products never come out sooner than they project.

- A
 

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neonlight said:
with a third party adapter I'm wondering whether to purchase an M series so I can use my FD50 f/1.4 (plus others) without having to buy an EF50 f/1.4 ... at least until EF50 F/xx II.. emerges from hibernation

I used an M3 with manual lenses for over a year. The focus peaking is a good implementaion. EVF is needed for critical focus, but the screen will work as well if you got time.

The 1.8 STM is a decent performer else just go with a7 series for legacy glass.
 
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Another body, but the same lack of some lenses...

Practically there are NO fast M lenses. 22/2 and 28 macro are not fast focusing lenses and there is no even zoom at F4, that about 2.8.
On the wide end it's better, but after 28mm you have only dark zooms. I was expecting that after M3 announcement we will get at least 2 of 35-50-80mm primes and nothing happened.
Stupid Canon DSLR lens sales protection. I don't believe that Canon are not able to produce fast normal and short tele lenses - they just don't want to do it.

That's totally insufficient for me.
 
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noncho said:
Another body, but the same lack of some lenses...

Practically there are NO fast M lenses. 22/2 and 28 macro are not fast focusing lenses and there is no even zoom at F4, that about 2.8.
On the wide end it's better, but after 28mm you have only dark zooms. I was expecting that after M3 announcement we will get at least 2 of 35-50-80mm primes and nothing happened.
Stupid Canon DSLR lens sales protection. I don't believe that Canon are not able to produce fast normal and short tele lenses - they just don't want to do it.

That's totally insufficient for me.

Perhaps the philosophy is that you need small, light lenses that are native to the M but for large, heavy fast lenses an EF lens with an adapter is the same size as one made natively for the M mount?
 
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Canon could and should make a compact native EF-M 85/2.4 STM IS lens. beyond 100mm focal lengths size savings will be difficult to achieve. but 35/2.0, 50/1.8, 85/2.4 could well be made as very compact primes in line with EF-M lens lineup - small, affordable, very good IQ.
 
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IglooEater said:
I'm curious about the mention of 45 AF points. Makes me wonder if it's something like a CMOS Hybrid AF such as is found in the t6s and t6i

they are not points as we know them on PDAF AF sensors, but more like zones on the sensor.

the M10, M3 and M5 list 49 AF points. it's really governed by firmware, not the hardware.
 
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AvTvM said:
Canon could and should make a compact native EF-M 85/2.4 STM IS lens. beyond 100mm focal lengths size savings will be difficult to achieve. but 35/2.0, 50/1.8, 85/2.4 could well be made as very compact primes in line with EF-M lens lineup - small, affordable, very good IQ.

not sure about your 85mm. it's going to be at least 60-85mm long, that's not "compact".

a 35 and 50 you'd have to think are on the table.

it'd be nice if canon would do it's usually prime "sweep" of 24,28,35,50 and really shut everyone the hell up.

it'd be even nicer of Mitarai could walk over a suitcase filled with cash over to Sigma's Yamaki and get them to do the DN line on the EF-M mount.

in my world I'd like to see a 15-50/4 first. while I love canon's EF-M lenses, as they all hit way above their peers especially if you use the lenses in combination with DPP's DLO - it would also be nice to have some premium choices.

I wonder if one of canon's EF-M design rules is that the lens cannot be a larger diameter than the mount diameter?
 
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AvTvM said:
but 35/2.0, 50/1.8, 85/2.4 could well be made as very compact primes in line with EF-M lens lineup - small, affordable, very good IQ.

That's pretty much exactly what I'm hoping for too. No need for faster lenses. Although where we differ, I think, is that out of those three lenses, the 85mm is the one that interests me the least.

I'd use the 50mm the most, but considering that the EF 50mm STM actually works quite well on the M5, I'd like to see the 35mm come first.

Nevertheless, I'd buy those three lenses with those exact specifications, provided they remain compact (and the price remains in line with what we've seen so far for EF-M lenses).
 
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ahsanford said:
Sharlin said:
So it really is exactly like the M5 sans a builtin EVF. Not exactly what I expected, but I presume vloggers will be very happy with the LCD that pivots up this time. I wonder what the price point will be.

Spec-wise it is an M5 minus viewfinder, but size-wise it is much more M3 like.

- A

Not a stalker but saw your comment on PetaPixel. Now I know your name. MUAHWAHAhahahaa.......

JK. I just feel strangely happy to know the first name of one of my favorite CR forum contributor.
 
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With the M6 now coming soon, looks like I don't have to get the M5.

I really loved the M5 but I still find the EVF lacking and too small for me also. So the M6 is perfect for me to get the latest tech but still in a jacket size. But now, we will soon see if their specs are the same and how much is the difference of having a EVF and a more ergonomic size.
 
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