High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
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I wouldn't go that far. Neuro has never failed me before.AlanF said:
Who would shoot at 3200 ISO a non-moving model during day time?
I would be convinced when they show me 6400 of a dunking player in a school interior basketball field.
I know, it is a great camera. Not 7 stops.
High ISO meant to be used in low light not close to sweet 16.
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While I've placed a pre-order with B&H;------ Significantly lower noise than the 7D is the "make or break" criteria for me----Without that, the other "upgrade" features are not worth the cost of upgrading for me.
I'm waiting to see "high" ISO raw images without any in-camera, resolution robbing High ISO Noise reduction applied.
Though these jpegs look promising; Tony Northrop has a preliminary review concluding little to no improvement over the 7D; while Scott Kelby claims, " It's "high" ISO performance is the best he's ever seen on an APS-C camera".
I'm hoping Kelby's conclusion is the "correct" one!
Leigh
I'm waiting to see "high" ISO raw images without any in-camera, resolution robbing High ISO Noise reduction applied.
Though these jpegs look promising; Tony Northrop has a preliminary review concluding little to no improvement over the 7D; while Scott Kelby claims, " It's "high" ISO performance is the best he's ever seen on an APS-C camera".
I'm hoping Kelby's conclusion is the "correct" one!
Leigh
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Wow. This is 12800 ISO. This is 5D3 league of noise performance not APS-C.
I would comfortably use this camera at 12800 with some noise reduction for non-critical applications.
I can say comfortably two stops improvement compared to my 70D/rebels where my limit is 1600.
I would comfortably use this camera at 12800 with some noise reduction for non-critical applications.
I can say comfortably two stops improvement compared to my 70D/rebels where my limit is 1600.
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16,000 ISO images from Canon USA:
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/eos_7dmkii_feature_img
"ISO 16000
Optimized for low-light shooting, the EOS 7D Mark II’s sensor captures images at
up to ISO 16000 (expandable to H1: 25600 and H2: 51200). Thanks to its improved,
higher sensitivity photodiode construction, CMOS circuitry, and color filters
with higher light transmittance, the EOS 7D Mark II records both still and moving
images at higher ISO speeds with remarkably low noise, making excellent low-light
photography and moviemaking possible. "
Leigh
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/eos_7dmkii_feature_img
"ISO 16000
Optimized for low-light shooting, the EOS 7D Mark II’s sensor captures images at
up to ISO 16000 (expandable to H1: 25600 and H2: 51200). Thanks to its improved,
higher sensitivity photodiode construction, CMOS circuitry, and color filters
with higher light transmittance, the EOS 7D Mark II records both still and moving
images at higher ISO speeds with remarkably low noise, making excellent low-light
photography and moviemaking possible. "
Leigh
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DiSnapper
Goin to wait for user reviews and insights on 7D2
Quest for Light said:DiSnapper said:Quest for Light said:well i normaly don´t judge from resized JPG images.
but i doubt that 51200 on the 7D MK2 looks as grainy as ISO 400 on a 7D.
i guess his 7D has some major issues if that´s true. :
I am not sure of other 7Ds but the one am using have this issue along with inaccurate AF.
you tell me your 7D at ISO 400 looks like this:
are you sure it´s not a Casio Z50 you are talking about? ??? ;D
I have attached an image from 7D shot at 400 ISO. This image is cropped and did basic corrections like exposure and contrast, this is downsized version. Also applied noise reduction after which the image looks little better (look at the grassy area), without noise reduction it looks as grainy as the sample of 7D ii.
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dilbert said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:
Yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Thanks for point pointing that out, dilbert. Maybe his real problem is that he thinks the 7DII is a lens. Or you do. :
Are you suggesting that the AF problems aren't the cameras and are the lens instead?
So all of those people that complained about the 5D2's AF should really have been complaining about lenses intead?
No, I'm suggesting that your allegation that the 7DII's AF has a problem is baseless trolling.
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neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:
Yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Thanks for point pointing that out, dilbert. Maybe his real problem is that he thinks the 7DII is a lens. Or you do. :
Are you suggesting that the AF problems aren't the cameras and are the lens instead?
So all of those people that complained about the 5D2's AF should really have been complaining about lenses intead?
No, I'm suggesting that your allegation that the 7DII's AF has a problem is baseless trolling.
well grangers examples at least show that even the 7D MK2 AF will not fix all issues...
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kevl said:
I have downloaded the jpeg (http://canon-premium.webcdn.stream.ne.jp/www09/canon-premium/eosd/samples/eos7dmk2/downloads/06.jpg) and compared it to my Canon 70d and I honestly think they look about the same as far as I can tell. It's worth remembering that this is the "official" 6400 ISO from Canon so probably has a bit of NR in post.
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Those samples are disingenuous. They are well lit and even my T4i produces solid images at 1600 when evenly lit. Show me sample images in horrible light and maybe I'd be impressed.
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There are two ways of improving ISO performance. Increasing the sensor's sensitivity to light and increasing the noise reduction quality either on sensor level or in post (Jpegs and videos). I don't care which one is responsible here but this looks very promising in the ISO department compared to older APS-C Canons....
Waiting for the full resolution Jpegs and Raw to confirm...
Waiting for the full resolution Jpegs and Raw to confirm...
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Scott Kelby is very good salesman who sits in Canon's pocket. Due to Dustin Abbott or other independent reviewer opinion is much more reliable.
A number of people were offered pre-production camera and from their images few best images were selected. Also, it would be very strange if such reviewers would say that this camera has similar low noice performance as old 7D or there are improvements in autofocus area only (which did not cost Canon any additional penny).
Let's calm down and wait until camera is released and then let's watch real reviews.
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