High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II

RuleOfThirds said:
Those samples are disingenuous. They are well lit and even my T4i produces solid images at 1600 when evenly lit. Show me sample images in horrible light and maybe I'd be impressed.

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imo you can´t tell much from resized JPG images.
but there is a lot of wishful thinking here i guess.
 
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All an all looks promising - Hard to tell because unsure how well lit, but did not notice the amount of noise in the skin texture I was expecting to see, and looked like a lot more the detail there compared to a lot of noise reduction.

Best way to judge is RAW in low light, but does seem like it is more serviceable than I was expecting
 
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A lot of dumb comments here. You're judging the AF system not knowing what mode/setting it was on, competence of a photographer testing a camera and a trade show, and whether or not the lens possibly needed to be micro adjusted. I love the internet...
 
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Sold! I've been waiting for a few pics to show high ISO and I'm liking it. Like others I was satisfied with ISO 800 and tolerated ISO 1600 on the 7D but the 7D2 will really improve some indoor sports shots I'm planning this year.

Sure, I agree that focus was severely off in one of the pics but who knows what the user issue was.
 
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FTBPhotography said:
A lot of dumb comments here. You're judging the AF system not knowing what mode/setting it was on, competence of a photographer testing a camera and a trade show, and whether or not the lens possibly needed to be micro adjusted. I love the internet...

Exactly, I love it when people don't bother to even go to the original site. This was shot on the floor of the Photokina trade show. Clearly, what happened was the guy got to hold the camera for a few minutes, stuck a card in it and fired off a few shots of a nearby model.

Still, the results do see quite good. Even if it is a jpeg, it would seem the camera's processing is pretty impressive at a minimum. Whether it's the "new" sensor or the new processing, it really doesn't matter, the results are definitely quite good and much closer to 5DIII standards than most people, if they are honest, would have expected.
 
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unfocused said:
FTBPhotography said:
A lot of dumb comments here. You're judging the AF system not knowing what mode/setting it was on, competence of a photographer testing a camera and a trade show, and whether or not the lens possibly needed to be micro adjusted. I love the internet...

Exactly, I love it when people don't bother to even go to the original site. This was shot on the floor of the Photokina trade show. Clearly, what happened was the guy got to hold the camera for a few minutes, stuck a card in it and fired off a few shots of a nearby model.

Still, the results do see quite good. Even if it is a jpeg, it would seem the camera's processing is pretty impressive at a minimum. Whether it's the "new" sensor or the new processing, it really doesn't matter, the results are definitely quite good and much closer to 5DIII standards than most people, if they are honest, would have expected.

Granger is a pretty solid Nikon shooter. In fact he just sold off his 1DX last month. So consider his bias towards Nikon when you watch his review... which is pretty positive for this 7D2. And yes, he got to rattle off 5 shots as fast as he could in whatever light available. I doubt he had time to play with AF system setup and lord knows what mode it was on. The test was for more for ISO. Not AF. He'll have a fully fleshed out video review within a couple months as will dpreview.com and everyone else. Amazing that after a couple online pictures, we still have people in here who want to dismiss this camera as a POS. Go buy the Samsung and quit complaining.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
Taking the example of these photos, we can conclude that 7D Mark ii is a very good camera for journalists who shoot JPEG and do not have time to process RAW files.

Those JPEGS at 12800 really do look lovely. Hope the raw files are clean like these. If they're not, then the in-camera noise reduction is really impressive, that will translate to video too, which is what I mainly care about.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
dilbert said:
neuroanatomist said:
dilbert said:
Well that new autofocus system in the 7DII is doing really well - the ISO3200 picture on his web page looks completely out of focus (front focus I'd say.) ISO25600 looks similarly misfocused.

So that new AF system in the 7DII ... so advanced that it can't deal with a model that's relatively stationary...

Yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Thanks for point pointing that out, dilbert. Maybe his real problem is that he thinks the 7DII is a lens. Or you do. ::)

Are you suggesting that the AF problems aren't the cameras and are the lens instead?

So all of those people that complained about the 5D2's AF should really have been complaining about lenses intead?

No, I'm suggesting that your allegation that the 7DII's AF has a problem is baseless trolling.

Are you saying that if of all the shots from the 7D II that you have seen 1 shot out of 6 that misses focus that there is no bases for a problem? :o

I am just hoping this guy was a bad photographer.
 
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I just played around with MS Office's resize tool on some of my higher ISO shots and now I'm not impressed at all. Take a look a the attached shot from my 1D X shot a ISO 16,000 and resized to the same dimensions as the sample using MS Office - not even PS. Looks pretty good. I tried the same on some old T2i shots at 6400 and guess what - they look mighty good, too.

Until we see RAW or unresized SOOC JPEG, I'm not willing to make any judgement, but I'm still hopeful it's very good.
 

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mackguyver said:
I just played around with MS Office's resize tool on some of my higher ISO shots and now I'm not impressed at all. Take a look a the attached shot from my 1D X shot a ISO 16,000 and resized to the same dimensions as the sample using MS Office - not even PS. Looks pretty good. I tried the same on some old T2i shots at 6400 and guess what - they look mighty good, too.

Until we see RAW or unresized SOOC JPEG, I'm not willing to make any judgement, but I'm still hopeful it's very good.


gratulations you just found out that downsampling images make noise look less worse!

i wait that the others who praise the 7D MK2 sensor because of a few resampled images (under well enough light, even when flickering) will get that. ;)
 
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takesome1 said:
Are you saying that if of all the shots from the 7D II that you have seen 1 shot out of 6 that misses focus that there is no bases for a problem?

Are you saying that you can draw any sort of conclusion from that information? :o

It's getting crowded under dilbert's bridge... ::)
 
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takesome1 said:
neuroanatomist said:
dilbert said:
neuroanatomist said:
dilbert said:
Well that new autofocus system in the 7DII is doing really well - the ISO3200 picture on his web page looks completely out of focus (front focus I'd say.) ISO25600 looks similarly misfocused.

So that new AF system in the 7DII ... so advanced that it can't deal with a model that's relatively stationary...

Yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Thanks for point pointing that out, dilbert. Maybe his real problem is that he thinks the 7DII is a lens. Or you do. ::)

Are you suggesting that the AF problems aren't the cameras and are the lens instead?

So all of those people that complained about the 5D2's AF should really have been complaining about lenses intead?

No, I'm suggesting that your allegation that the 7DII's AF has a problem is baseless trolling.

Are you saying that if of all the shots from the 7D II that you have seen 1 shot out of 6 that misses focus that there is no bases for a problem? :o

I am just hoping this guy was a bad photographer.

A sample size of 6 is far too small (in any context) to draw any conclusions. Maybe the next 6 would all have been in focus, maybe the next 60 would have (or vice versa). As others have said, we know next to nothing about the lens, AF mode, technique, and user capability. To immediately point to it being a flaw in the camera body is patently trolling as Neuro said. Let's just hope it was meant lightheartedly.
 
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