neuroanatomist said:
I suspect that the internet would be 99% smaller if they stopped doing it...
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High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
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I suspect that the internet would be 99% smaller if they stopped doing it...
dilbert said:
Because you don't know if these are "focus issues". They're just images which are out of focus, which is not the same thing...
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ajfotofilmagem said:Taking the example of these photos, we can conclude that 7D Mark ii is a very good camera for journalists who shoot JPEG and do not have time to process RAW files. :
The picture out of focus?The beauty of the model left the photographer nervous... :-*
I agree. I think anyone here could use an XTi in that lighting at max ISO and get similar results. They're down to what, 2MP? Wasn't really informative...the model was a smoke-show though.
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dilbert said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:
Yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Thanks for point pointing that out, dilbert. Maybe his real problem is that he thinks the 7DII is a lens. Or you do. :
Are you suggesting that the AF problems aren't the cameras and are the lens instead?
So all of those people that complained about the 5D2's AF should really have been complaining about lenses intead?
No, I'm suggesting that your allegation that the 7DII's AF has a problem is baseless trolling.
Really?
Someone that many would call a competent photographer posts a series of images, of which a substantial fraction are out of focus and criticising the camera is baseless trolling?
So what would you like to blame for the focus problems:
* The camera
* The model
* The lens
* The photographer
The AF was off, the exposures were off, the white balance was off. That's not the camera. That's the user. The guy was in a spur-of-the-moment setting, with a BRAND NEW PROTOTYPE camera that he had never before used.
Sorry 'Bert, but you have to account for user error at the very least here, not to mention the potential issues that a PRE-release camera is going to bring to the table. No one is going to instantly become intimately familiar with and capable of using to perfection a brand new piece of hardware after handling it for a few minutes.
This is just baseless trolling. Canon has their flaws, but AF is one of the things they excel at. There are other, and much lower hanging, "troll food fruit" which you could go after a bit more effectively here.
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pleasehelp said:I have a 550D and i see no difference at all.
What difference are you expecting, exactly?
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Steve said:
No, it doesn't look bad - for 10000 ISO from a cropper, it's as good as you'll get anywhere.
Not much "detail" in a Fender amp...
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I downloaded two of the full sized jpg's from the site in japan. The first (maybe wrong ) assumption it that they are out of camera jpg's. I compared them to two I have here from my T3i with the same ISO ratings. The one I have at ISO 6400 is of a large object from a close (about 8 feet) distance so not a good comparison to the one of the harbour. The other at ISO 3200 was compared to a bird shot I have and it does seem the squirrel exhibits a little better fine detail but that is about it. I don't think it is $1800 worth.
That leaves it back to raw performance whenever that is available.
On the flip side the camera's feature set, other than high ISO performance, was enough for me to pre-order. Got my name on a list early. I can always cancel if new / more information leads me to conclude that it is not worth the price.
Rod
That leaves it back to raw performance whenever that is available.
On the flip side the camera's feature set, other than high ISO performance, was enough for me to pre-order. Got my name on a list early. I can always cancel if new / more information leads me to conclude that it is not worth the price.
Rod
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Keith_Reeder said:pleasehelp said:I have a 550D and i see no difference at all.
What difference are you expecting, exactly?
To be honest i wonder first and foremost that i see no difference at all after so many Sensor generations.
I mean is this already the end of what we can expect?
Is there only an ISO improvement from now on?
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takesome1 said:scyrene said:takesome1 said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:
Yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Thanks for point pointing that out, dilbert. Maybe his real problem is that he thinks the 7DII is a lens. Or you do. :
Are you suggesting that the AF problems aren't the cameras and are the lens instead?
So all of those people that complained about the 5D2's AF should really have been complaining about lenses intead?
No, I'm suggesting that your allegation that the 7DII's AF has a problem is baseless trolling.
Are you saying that if of all the shots from the 7D II that you have seen 1 shot out of 6 that misses focus that there is no bases for a problem?
I am just hoping this guy was a bad photographer.
A sample size of 6 is far too small (in any context) to draw any conclusions. Maybe the next 6 would all have been in focus, maybe the next 60 would have (or vice versa). As others have said, we know next to nothing about the lens, AF mode, technique, and user capability. To immediately point to it being a flaw in the camera body is patently trolling as Neuro said. Let's just hope it was meant lightheartedly.
Miss spelled word, I was patiently trolling until mine arrives in November. Or maybe not....
Lol, I didn't mean you!
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Mark D5 TEAM II
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LOL at the trolling regarding the 7D2 AF, first of all the guy was making an informal test of the High ISO SOOC JPEGs from the cam, not its AF performance. Secondly, OOF images can still be useful to evaluate noise in the OOF areas (assuming an even-enough area in terms of color and lighting).
Here is a better 7D2 image gallery to evaluate the camera's AF performance (so-called "Professional's Impression" gallery), too bad the full-size images are not available (composed of BIFs, bullet trains, jumbo jets, various individual and team sports, various fast-moving land animals like Cheetahs, Subaru WRX STi rally cars, motoracing, jetskiing, etc.) :
http://cweb.canon.jp/eos/special/7dmk2/gallery/
In short, the gallery demonstrates that if you can't shoot in-focus action shots with the 7D2, then the problem is obviously located behind the viewfinder.
Here is a better 7D2 image gallery to evaluate the camera's AF performance (so-called "Professional's Impression" gallery), too bad the full-size images are not available (composed of BIFs, bullet trains, jumbo jets, various individual and team sports, various fast-moving land animals like Cheetahs, Subaru WRX STi rally cars, motoracing, jetskiing, etc.) :
http://cweb.canon.jp/eos/special/7dmk2/gallery/
In short, the gallery demonstrates that if you can't shoot in-focus action shots with the 7D2, then the problem is obviously located behind the viewfinder.
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Mark D5 TEAM II
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Another gallery from Canon UK, again, no full-size images:
http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_7d_mark_ii/index.html#gallery
http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_7d_mark_ii/index.html#gallery
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dilbert said:jrista said:dilbert said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:
Yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Thanks for point pointing that out, dilbert. Maybe his real problem is that he thinks the 7DII is a lens. Or you do. :
Are you suggesting that the AF problems aren't the cameras and are the lens instead?
So all of those people that complained about the 5D2's AF should really have been complaining about lenses intead?
No, I'm suggesting that your allegation that the 7DII's AF has a problem is baseless trolling.
Really?
Someone that many would call a competent photographer posts a series of images, of which a substantial fraction are out of focus and criticising the camera is baseless trolling?
So what would you like to blame for the focus problems:
* The camera
* The model
* The lens
* The photographer
The AF was off, the exposures were off, the white balance was off. That's not the camera. That's the user. The guy was in a spur-of-the-moment setting, with a BRAND NEW PROTOTYPE camera that he had never before used.
Sorry 'Bert, but you have to account for user error at the very least here, not to mention the potential issues that a PRE-release camera is going to bring to the table. No one is going to instantly become intimately familiar with and capable of using to perfection a brand new piece of hardware after handling it for a few minutes.
So that would be "The Photographer."
Absolutely! Every single photographer on earth botches shots, even the greatest of the great pros. Throw in a bunch of random factors and a brand new prototype camera model that you've never used before, and you would missfocus a bit as well.
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dilbert said:
at least he has his gut to post his out of focus image? how about you? take your best focus camera and try to beat me with my classic canon 7d which number of people in here complain about auto focus... post your similar sharp image like the one below which was taken with canon 7d and 24-105mm f/4...
sadly that i have to say, imo, that 7d mark ii should beat both canon 1d-x and 5d mark iii in auto focus and yes, i am not bias in this saying since i am one of those canon 5d mark iii owners...
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Wow, well done Canon!!! Apparently someone there does listen! High-ISO, Awesome AF system and 10 FPS. Best Camera in class by a good margin. It's hard to believe there are complaints, especially at this price. These things are going to fly out the door. This is going to revive the middle market for sure.
I have a feeling the 5DmIV will be the high DR, 4K camera (with built in recording) everyone wants.
At least no one is saying the high ISO shots are noisy, lol
I have a feeling the 5DmIV will be the high DR, 4K camera (with built in recording) everyone wants.
At least no one is saying the high ISO shots are noisy, lol
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Wow some people must have really high expectations from Matt Granger for him to be able to just pick up a camera he's never even seen before or even existed before that point and to then be handed it and given a short (a minute or two?) time to get a 100% hit rate in conditions he has has no control over? Well he didn't manage that so the only conclusion can be - that the camera is a dud? Because MG cannot miss. Ever. It's not even thinkable.
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