Talys said:Congratulations on your camera! For me, the #1 thing missing on the 5DIV is a flippy screen. I don't know if I'd buy a 5DIV-priced camera if they had one, but I certainly won't until they do.
On the bright side, the user satisfaction of everyone I've known who has owned a 5DIV has been very high. I can't say the same about Sony A7RII -- there are always grumblings -- and I don't know anyone with a D850 yet.
CanonGuy said:If you argue specs don't matter, then no company should release new cameras. Because you know specs don't matter lol.
Specs do matter, but diminishing returns from technical advancements are also a reality.
In actual usage, I think an A7RII is horrible. Technical enhancements be damned, pick a pro lens, and the body feels totally unbalanced -- even a 16-35/2.8 -- with the grip being god-awful. The camera actually feels really nice with the smaller kit lenses. But in reality, a top end lens will do a lot more for you than anything else, and that's not going to be short, light, or have a tiny diameter.
I won't lie, I'm jealous of a lot of D850 features, as I am of certain A7RII features (4k video not being among them, lol). However, things will change at some point, and it will be the other way around. And, I'm still very happy with my Canon glass, much more so than I would be with Nikon or Sony glass. And at the end of the day, an A7RII gives me much fewer keepers with wildlife, and I doubt the D850 would mean significantly more or fewer keepers, or, really, much different photos.
The things I need to improve with my hobby have nothing to do with the camera -- mostly it's field skills to get closer to the subject and to get better composed shots, and well, more time to become more practiced.
Well said. I was humbled years ago on a trip to Denali. At the time, I took out a Panasonic point and shoot and grabbed a shot (the same shot) as my Canon 50D with 400 5.6L, and the results were a kick in the teeth!
I have spent for me what is a lot of money on lenses, way more on the camera bodies, and of course, lenses last while bodies come and go. When I look at my bad shots, it has NEVER been due to the camera or lens, I have to take the credit for that. Better specs when cameras are this good may only be appreciable on the bench, or not. New features may be great, but not appealing to all.
I guess my point is that we can't get everything we wish for.
Scott
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