If you definately wanted a 5dMK2...

[mreco99]

If you definately wanted a 5dMK2, would you be stupid to buy one now (assuming you could get one)
Based on lack of stock levels, and possibly an announcement of the replacement coming in the next few months.

I assume Canon will pick up production again of the 5Dmk2? after recent problems.

Also will canon stop 5Dmk2 production before the replacement is produced, basically im saying do you think the mk2 will be available even when the mk3 (assuming its called that) is acually available to buy.

 

[alipaulphotography]

Yes, it will still be available and I imagine will be around for a while despite being old now.
There will be masses on the 2nd hand market as well which I might invest in, having a 5D original currently.

Ali

www.alipaul.com

 

[Loswr]

If you definately wanted a 5dMK2, would you be stupid to buy one now

Ouch.

What if my 5DII breaks? Would I be stupid to replace it? What if I didn't have a FF camera, but had an important shoot/event/trip/whatever and needed/wanted a FF body for that reason - would I be stupid to buy a 5DII now? I guess it would be even more stupid to buy a 1DsIII, since that's even older than the 5DII.

If you base all your purchasing decisions on 'possibly an announcement of the replacement coming in the next few months' you'd never buy anything. Buying a Rebel body at any time would be stupid, because they are on approximately annual refresh cycle, and thus perpetually a few months from replacement. Same goes for a laptop. How about a car? You know that there will be a new model out next year, with more/better features.

On the other hand, while spending money on a 5DII today might be a questionable decision, spending money on a good dictionary is definitely a good idea, at any time.

 

[Macadameane]

Uh oh, now you've done it, you've got the anatomist involved...

 

[acoll123]

I bought a 5D2 a few weeks ago after hoping for a 5D3 announcement since last fall. I feel stupid for WAITING, as I use it almost every day. I will probably get a 5D3 WHEN it comes out and either trade in my 7D or my 5D2. I am sure I will only regain part of my initial investment but the cost will be minor compared to the cost of not getting some of the great shots I have gotten and will get with the 5D2 until then.

 

[mreco99]

If you definately wanted a 5dMK2, would you be stupid to buy one now

Ouch.

What if my 5DII breaks? Would I be stupid to replace it? What if I didn't have a FF camera, but had an important shoot/event/trip/whatever and needed/wanted a FF body for that reason - would I be stupid to buy a 5DII now? I guess it would be even more stupid to buy a 1DsIII, since that's even older than the 5DII.

If you base all your purchasing decisions on 'possibly an announcement of the replacement coming in the next few months' you'd never buy anything. Buying a Rebel body at any time would be stupid, because they are on approximately annual refresh cycle, and thus perpetually a few months from replacement. Same goes for a laptop. How about a car? You know that there will be a new model out next year, with more/better features.

On the other hand, while spending money on a 5DII today might be a questionable decision, spending money on a good dictionary is definitely a good idea, at any time.

Thanks for the constructive input.
Clearly you didnit read between the lines. I dont NEED a 5D right now, would love one of course, as my 450d will get me bye for da summer. Money is tight so i want the camera to last as long as possible and i feel a little time sacrifice at this end will pay down the years.

As for a dictionary, you lost me son.

 

[Loswr]

Clearly you didnit read between the lines. I dont NEED a 5D right now

It was pretty clear that you don't need a 5DII. I'm just not sure that it's reasonable to extend the converse of that to mean anyone who does need a 5DII right now, and buys one, is stupid.

If yew don't sea the knead four a dictionerry, that's defenately fyne with me.

 

[jalbfb]

Clearly you didnit read between the lines. I dont NEED a 5D right now

It was pretty clear that you don't need a 5DII. I'm just not sure that it's reasonable to extend the converse of that to mean anyone who does need a 5DII right now, and buys one, is stupid.

If yew don't sea the knead four a dictionerry, that's defenately fyne with me.

LMAO. I guess I was one of the stupid ones. Bought my 5DII 3 week ago. Was waiting for the 5DIII or whatever it was going to be called, but when the earth shook in the Pacific rim I figured why wait for the FF I was wanting to get. When (eventually this will happen) the III or whatever it will be called does come out, I'll look at it's specs, read the reviews and decide if I want to trade in the II for the newer model or keep enjoying my baby as I am now.

 

[mreco99]

Gosh i think i should re-phrase my question for those with sensitive eyes.
"If one was considering a move to FF sometime this year, would right now not be the best time to make the jump".
I apologise for insanely offensive approach i took in my initial flippant comment.

No animals were harmed in the making of this post.

 

[alipaulphotography]

If you want to move to full frame now for the image quality and focal length a full frame gives but are concerned about the 5D mk II going out of date, then buy a 5D Original.

I bought one 4 months ago upgrading from a 450D as the inability to handle ISO's above 400 was driving me mad, and it is a superb camera. Even when the mkIII comes out, the original won't devalue nearly as much as a mk II would as it is already cheap. If image quality is important to you and can survive without the 'gimmicks' such as live-view, video etc, then it is a no-brainer and superb value for money.

Surely there was a big red dotted line underneath 'definately' before posting?

I got one with only 140 shutter actuation's, a battery grip and 32GB of CF for £100 less than a body-only 7D.

Ali

www.alipaul.com

 

[mreco99]

Defenately no red line

Do all cameras have a total shutter usage? and how easy is it to edit that for fraudulent reasons?
Sounds like a mile - o - meter of a car

 

[armando]

If you definately wanted a 5dMK2, would you be stupid to buy one now (assuming you could get one)
Based on lack of stock levels, and possibly an announcement of the replacement coming in the next few months.

I assume Canon will pick up production again of the 5Dmk2? after recent problems.

Also will canon stop 5Dmk2 production before the replacement is produced, basically im saying do you think the mk2 will be available even when the mk3 (assuming its called that) is acually available to buy.

Was in the same boat, kept twiddling my thumbs, bought one and i'm very happy

http://www.canon.com/news/2011/apr04e.html = think it will take a long time before a real steady shipment of dslr equipment will occur.

I bought the 7d, and never could get out of my head "what would a 5d mkii look like (besides from looking at flickr and youtube)" I say do this .


buy the 5d mkII first, then that way you'll never worry about picture quality, then get the 7d if you feel like you need to.

7d = outside

5dmkii = inside (buildings etc (hockey games))

 

[rcormack]

The 5d2 will not all of a sudden become a crap camera when the 5d3 is released/announced. It will be the same great camera it was 2+ years ago when it was out. And will continue to be that same great camera for the next 2+ years.

 

[alipaulphotography]

Re: If you definitely wanted a 5dMK2...

It won't become a crap camera by any means. But its value will drop the day the mk III is announced. So it might leave you thinking: "Hmm, if only I had waited".

All technology devalues the day you buy it. The release price of the MKIII is going to be eye watering with the yen's current state, but will drop maybe half a year after. 5D Mk II has dropped massively in price since it was released.

Buy 'dead' technology if you are concerned about devaluing:
5D original - Like the MK II, but with a few less megapixels, no micro adjust, no live view, weaker ISO handling, and no 1080p video.
Oh - and it is super cheap

Ali

www.alipaul.com

 

[Flake]

Was in the same boat, kept twiddling my thumbs, bought one and i'm very happy

buy the 5d mkII first, then that way you'll never worry about picture quality, then get the 7d if you feel like you need to.

7d = outside

5dmkii = inside (buildings etc (hockey games))

I'd say you'll worry about image quality with a 5D MkII to the extent that you'll never buy another lens without full knowledge of its performance. The 5D MkII is merciless when it come to exposing lens weaknesses, I'm sure anyone who has one that checks their images will know this. Lenses like the 17 - 40mm L have no resolution at 17mm wide open, you have to work around to improve matters, but you have to know how to do this first.

Full Frame is not some kind of panacea or holy grail, it's incredibly frustrating not have the reach of a crop frame camera when you need it, and wide angle lenses now for crop frames make the FOV more or less the same FF acheives. The main advantage is the control over depth of field which many non photographers associate with quality (for some odd reason). Having said that the image quality acheivable when you get everything right is second to non.

Use FF for landscape, interiors, portraits, and use crop for macro, sports, wildlife. Or alternatively by a 1D series and get something of a compromise between the two.

 

[armando]

Your right flake The sigma 8-16mm I'll admit is very nice & the distortion can be fixed. I have been using the 5d mk ii extensively on models did a Photoshoot. So how you listed the uses was dead on.

When I used my sigma 150-500mn I could actually see how soft the images were at 500mm (stopping down didn't help) then I used the 100-400mm L wow big difference, though i'll admit they make good primes though