More Big Megapixel Talk [CR1]

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Freelancer said:
i would really like to know where a simple sales clerk (no offense) in europe makes 65k $ ... not to mention 65k euro....

???

yep, my sister is a anesthetist. after 5 years of university and 4 years of work she earns 2600 euro a month, after tax. thought it could be more if she finally marrys her boyfriend. :)
 
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Freelancer said:
Viggo said:
Freelancer said:
Viggo said:
Not if you consider I make 65k a year as a seller in a store... we can always buy half off from the US :P

a stores sales clerk that makes 65k?
you must have a nice and generous boss then.

One word: Union!

i know a media markt department manager in germany who makes 2100 euro NETTO.
that translates into ~25000 euro a year after tax.

i would really like to know where a simple sales clerk (no offense) in europe makes 65k $ ... not to mention 65k euro....

I meant 65k usd, not euro. That would've been fun! And of course no offense taken, I am a sales clerk by choice, no responsibillty, good money, and I get to talk photogear all day with all sorts of weird, interesting, funny and knowledgable people.
 
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Freelancer said:
KyleSTL said:
I thought we had all gone over this many time before that a square sensor cannot exist due to mirror clearance issues (unless of course it is 24mm x 24mm, which would be pointless)?

in case you did not notice we just put a rover on mars. ;)
the easiest way is to make the camera mirrorless.

and hey im not saying canon will do that im just saying it is rumored. ;)

We do not only put it on mars :-D we put a freaking rocket powered flying crane on mars and lowered it from that ;) After letting it fly 563,000,000 km trough Space! Just 2,4 km away from the spot we wanted :D That is just like hitting a hair 280 Km away ;)

So let canon-engineers do there job and bring us something new!
square-sensor ? problem with moving mirror ? let it stay and make its reflectivity electronic controllable ;)
you are skeptical about that? look at you automatic dimming rear mirror in you car ... its exactly that ;)

just the tip off the iceberg off what is physically possible ;)
 
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Viggo said:
Anyone been over at nikonrumors and hear what they complain over? It seems that the guys here love nikon more than they do...

no wonder .. both companys have switched their school of thought drastically.

we user need some time to adapt. no matter if nikon or canon user. ;)

the poor nikon guys sitting there with a D800 on their knees and don´t know what to do with all the megapixels. it´s a heavy jump from 12 to 36 MP.

while we canon guys suddenly see that sony, out of nowhere, produces the best sensors.
and we wonder why our sensors have only 22MP and no better DR then a tiny, dwarf-size-photosite equipped D800 sensor.
 
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Canon-F1 said:
Viggo said:
Anyone been over at nikonrumors and hear what they complain over? It seems that the guys here love nikon more than they do...

no wonder .. both companys have switched their school of thought drastically.

we user need some time to adapt. no matter if nikon or canon user. ;)

the poor nikon guys sitting there with a D800 on their knees and don´t know what to do with all the megapixels. it´s a heavy jump from 12 to 36 MP.

while we canon guys suddenly see that sony, out of nowhere, produces the best sensors.
and we wonder why our sensors have only 22 and no better DR then a tiny, dwarf-size-photosite equipped D800 sensor.

Actually, I find that 22 MPx is about perfect for me, although I would like more DR at low ISO, but my 5d3 still beats out the D800 at high ISO which I use quite a bit :P Different strengths for different people is all.
 
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AJ said:
... a very new sensor design/overhaul. The emphasis is in the dynamic range of the sensor ...

New sensor technology? If so I wonder what it is? Any patents to hint at it?

I'm interested because technology tends to trickle down to consumer cameras that I can afford.

We'll see... We'll just have to wait for about 2 to 3 years before we can get it down to 5D2 price level then that's the time I'll get an FF. :)
 
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Tayvin said:
Freelancer said:
i also think it will be very expensive.
in the range of 8000-10000$
maybe called EOS-S (for studio). ;)
It wouldn't make any sense for Canon to price a DSLR that high. You might as well buy a used Hassy at that price. I bet it will be under $5000 - if this rumor is true, of course.
That's true, you might just get a pre-owned Hassy for similar money. But if the option is there to run with just one set of lenses, it makes Canon's megapixel monster hugely attractive if it's priced in the $8-10K range. Do a quick search for pricing on lenses for that Hasselblad. Ouch!

-PW
 
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HurtinMinorKey said:
All of this info points to it being expensive as hell. I'm guessing $6K minimum.

Yeah the new naming scheme makes me afraid it will be the EOS 1$ ;D
expensive and brick sized and slow.

But talk of super DR is pretty exciting.

Imagine a 5D4 in a few years with tons of DR, 38MP, super video, 6fps, same top AF. :D All thoughts of going to the dark side might end pretty quickly. ;D
 
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Drizzt321 said:
Actually, I find that 22 MPx is about perfect for me, although I would like more DR at low ISO, but my 5d3 still beats out the D800 at high ISO which I use quite a bit :P Different strengths for different people is all.
"Different strengths for different people is all." — Well said! 22mp and great high ISO is perfect for me too.
 
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jrista said:
If the sensor is a 16-bit sensor with some kind of active cooling (no, not necessarily a fan), and Canon doesn't completely botch the ISO 100 and 200 electronic noise, then it could stomp all over the D800. With an extra two bits of information they could push 15 stops of DR, maybe even a little more (but no more than 16.0.)

My guess is that its still probably their same old sensor tech, but with some kind of efficient cooling to keep the sensor below room temperature (thereby reducing electronic noise), and extra bit depth. Canon needs the active cooling because they are either incapable of innovating and patenting technology similar but different enough to Sony Exmor, or there simply ISN'T another way to reduce noise electronically like Exmor, and Canon either has to pay Sony royalties, or do something entirely different.

Am I wrong in thinking that the amount electronic noise stems from the placement of the image processing unit? Too close to the sensor, too much heat for say video, far enough away to eliminate heat more electronic noise as it passe through the camera?
Maybe they should redesign the chip and do a pure imaging camera meant for the absolute best stills possible.
 
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I do mainly studio work and 46.1 megapixel is overkill. For magazines ads and catalog work a 16Mp 1Ds2 is all I need. I've used a 5D3, and it main advantage is it's lighter weight when used out of the studio.

DR is no big deal 'cause I've got enough Profoto watt seconds to cause sunburn :)

But I'm sure 46.1Mp will sell well with the Doctor and Lawyer Photo Enthusiasts :) :)
 
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