More EOS 7D Replacement Buzz Going Around [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

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<p>We’re hearing from more dealers around the globe that the EOS 7D is either “out of stock” or has reached “end of life”. This is all pointing to the obvious conclusion that a replacement to the camera is on the horizon.</p>
<p>We haven’t been told of an exact announcement date, but do expect it in August. If we had to speculate, around August 18 would be our guess.</p>
<p>We have been told that a new STM kit lens is likely with the EOS 7D replacement, along with an L zoom.</p>
<p>No one at CineGear 2014 this past weekend had any insight about a 7D replacement, not even the usual facial expressions when you mention a new product. However, top Canon dealers should be hearing about it soon. We do expect spec relation information to be very tight until well into July.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
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[Quasimodo]

Here is to hoping it is paired with a new 100-400

 

[Lee Jay]

A new STM? Hopefully, it'll start at 15mm.

Actually, a 15-60ish/2.8 to replace the 17-55/2.8 would be a smashing release along with a 7D replacement and a 100-400L replacement.

But, I suspect it'll be either another 18-55 type cheap kit lens, or a hyperzoom like the 18-135 or 18-200.

 

[Don Haines]

I find the naysayer's comments to be quite entertaining....

I expect it to be to the 70D, like the 7D was to the 60D. Better AF, better sealing, a bit faster, and about twice the price. Anything more will be a bonus.

Since my 60D is getting long in the tooth, for me the time is right for an upgrade.

 

[wickidwombat]

A new STM? Hopefully, it'll start at 15mm.

Actually, a 15-60ish/2.8 to replace the 17-55/2.8 would be a smashing release along with a 7D replacement and a 100-400L replacement.

But, I suspect it'll be either another 18-55 type cheap kit lens, or a hyperzoom like the 18-135 or 18-200.

I think you are right but the canon 18-200 desperately needs an update though,
the nikkors vr1 and vr2 leave it for dead

 

[sanj]

I think this is not a relevant post. Why would CR post this? It is not saying anything new.

But I guess Canon is keeping its secrets very well guarded.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

A new STM? Hopefully, it'll start at 15mm.
Actually, a 15-60ish/2.8 to replace the 17-55/2.8 would be a smashing release along with a 7D replacement and a 100-400L replacement.
But, I suspect it'll be either another 18-55 type cheap kit lens, or a hyperzoom like the 18-135 or 18-200.

You read my mind. I would love an EF-S 15-60mm F2.8 STM below $ 1000. :-*

 

[Chaitanya]

Skeptical about a new release, although i want to replace my age old 450D with a new camera by the end of this year. :

 

[wickidwombat]

Skeptical about a new release, although i want to replace my age old 450D with a new camera by the end of this year. :

They would be crazy and miss a nice fat cash cow to not have it out before xmas

 

[SwampYankee]

I think if you keep your eyes peeled you might actually catch a glimpse of any new Canon stuff during the world cup. I'm sure you will not be able to tell much by what the camera looks like but I suspect that the new 7D will be there along with a high mega-pixel pro body.

 

[Maximilian]

More to come…

Nice to read, that there is more than speculation.

I'm still suprised, how well Canon is protecting any kind of specs from leaking.
Might be a hint to a really "big thing"... maybe new sensor tech...?

Might also be, that Canon is just playing hide and seek with the competition.

 

[mkabi]

I find the naysayer's comments to be quite entertaining....

I expect it to be to the 70D, like the 7D was to the 60D. Better AF, better sealing, a bit faster, and about twice the price. Anything more will be a bonus.

Since my 60D is getting long in the tooth, for me the time is right for an upgrade.

+1

But, I suspect it'll be either another 18-55 type cheap kit lens, or a hyperzoom like the 18-135 or 18-200.

May be an 18-200, but not another 18-55 or 18-135.
They were both released recently in their STM forms within the last 2 years.

 

[NancyP]

I think that the rumor blogs are an excellent way to keep G.A.S. going. It wouldn't surprise me if Canon delegated rumor spreaders to mumble something not very revealing every few months.

 

[dadgummit]

I find the naysayer's comments to be quite entertaining....

I expect it to be to the 70D, like the 7D was to the 60D. Better AF, better sealing, a bit faster, and about twice the price. Anything more will be a bonus.

Since my 60D is getting long in the tooth, for me the time is right for an upgrade.

+1

But, I suspect it'll be either another 18-55 type cheap kit lens, or a hyperzoom like the 18-135 or 18-200.

May be an 18-200, but not another 18-55 or 18-135.
They were both released recently in their STM forms within the last 2 years.

The 18-55 and 18-135 are both very good, I really don't think they need replacement.

A new 17-55 STM would be interesting but I am wondering about the durability of the STM motors compared to USM. If a lens that sells for $300 goes bad it is not too big a deal but most photographers who buy a $1K lens for a crop camera will have it as their one good lens and if that goes bad after a couple of years of use it would be disapointing especially since Canon only gives 1 year for its warranty.

Just to throw this out there... If Dual pixel tech is ever going to hit full frame cameras like the 5d4 or 6d2 or 4d then FF will need a compatable STM lens too.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

I find the naysayer's comments to be quite entertaining....
I expect it to be to the 70D, like the 7D was to the 60D. Better AF, better sealing, a bit faster, and about twice the price. Anything more will be a bonus.
Since my 60D is getting long in the tooth, for me the time is right for an upgrade.

+1

But, I suspect it'll be either another 18-55 type cheap kit lens, or a hyperzoom like the 18-135 or 18-200.

May be an 18-200, but not another 18-55 or 18-135.
They were both released recently in their STM forms within the last 2 years.

The 18-55 and 18-135 are both very good, I really don't think they need replacement.
A new 17-55 STM would be interesting but I am wondering about the durability of the STM motors compared to USM. If a lens that sells for $300 goes bad it is not too big a deal but most photographers who buy a $1K lens for a crop camera will have it as their one good lens and if that goes bad after a couple of years of use it would be disapointing especially since Canon only gives 1 year for its warranty.

Stepper motors have been used for decades on devices like VCR and has great durability. I think the brake system of USM engines are more subject to wear due to heavy usage.

 

[ahsanford]

An STM lens. Really. That's pretty weak for what is presumably a best-in-class APS-C rig in the $2k neighborhood. STM is fine for video, and it's also nice upgrade over the squeaky slow AF motors of the older entry level Rebel kit glass, but 7D2 still shooters would want the speed of USM, right?

Are they legitimately going after pro wildlife/sports guys with this rig or just enthusiasts who want a high burst rate? Surely the days of kitting this with a relatively average lens are over, aren't they? (I recognize that the people drooling over a 7D2 likely already have a lot of glass, but the same could be said at the launch of the 5D3 and that had a decent lens kit option...)

Just riffing here: any chance Canon kits this with a really solid L lens? I recognize that a 24-something zoom lens will be too long on the wide end for a standard zoom. So...

Kit it with a 16-35 F/4L IS?

Kit it with a first-ever L lens in an EF-S mount? An EF-S 15-50 F/4L IS? An L-quality update to the 17-55 F/2.8 IS?

Kit it with the Sigma 18-35 F/1.8? ;D

- A

 

[CANONisOK]

Kit it with a first-ever L lens in an EF-S mount? An EF-S 15-50 F/4L IS? An L-quality update to the 17-55 F/2.8 IS?

An EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 L IS STM? Sounds like a jackalope, but there could be some logic to it. I loved my 17-55mm when I shot APS-C.

 

[rs]

Just to throw this out there... If Dual pixel tech is ever going to hit full frame cameras like the 5d4 or 6d2 or 4d then FF will need a compatable STM lens too.

Good point. We already have the 40, but a slow zoom is the typical deployment of such technology. These EF-S zooms so far been optically very good, and very cheap. Does anyone see an EF 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS STM on the horizon? Nikon recently refreshed their budget full frame variable aperture zoom.

 

[ahsanford]

Just to throw this out there... If Dual pixel tech is ever going to hit full frame cameras like the 5d4 or 6d2 or 4d then FF will need a compatable STM lens too.

Good point. We already have the 40, but a slow zoom is the typical deployment of such technology. These EF-S zooms so far been optically very good, and very cheap. Does anyone see an EF 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS STM on the horizon? Nikon recently refreshed their budget full frame variable aperture zoom.

This is entirely ignorance on my part as the only STM I own is the pancake, so I'll ask:

1) Do any still shooters who are shooting moving subjects use STM glass at all?

2) Has STM focusing speed improved to catch up with USM speed?

3) Does STM work well in Servo for moving subjects?

Please educate me, as I think my first go at STM with the pancake was not impressive on those three fronts. That lens is a marvel, but only for static shots in my book.

Maybe more recent STM glass is better?

- A

 

[Lee Jay]

An STM lens. Really. That's pretty weak for what is presumably a best-in-class APS-C rig in the $2k neighborhood. STM is fine for video, and it's also nice upgrade over the squeaky slow AF motors of the older entry level Rebel kit glass, but 7D2 still shooters would want the speed of USM, right?

Are they legitimately going after pro wildlife/sports guys with this rig or just enthusiasts who want a high burst rate? Surely the days of kitting this with a relatively average lens are over, aren't they? (I recognize that the people drooling over a 7D2 likely already have a lot of glass, but the same could be said at the launch of the 5D3 and that had a decent lens kit option...)

I think it could make a lot of sense. Here's why.

First, I think you're right that many prospective buyers would already have a lot of lenses for shooting stills, and would have little interest in either a cheap kit lens, or one of the L zoom options like the 24-70s or 24-105. However, many of them might have relatively little interest in video and would therefore have few, if any, dedicated video-lenses (STM, wide focal range, usually). Therefore, a higher-quality STM video lens might make sense.

This applies to me. I have plenty of lenses for still shooting (though, the rumored Sigma 24-70/2.0 OS sounds pretty exciting if it's real), but I would be interested in, say, an 18-135STM as my video lens if the 7D replacement comes with some great video features (dual-pixel, hybrid viewfinder, good compression, resolution and windowing options, etc.). Maybe they're even thinking of a power-zoom if this camera is going to have a lot of new video functionality.