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NEW CAMERA - EOS 80D?

moreorless said:
Personally I think its been clear for awhile now that the big hole in both Canon and Nikons lineup has been a DSLR the size of there entry level bodies but with the control layout/display of upper end bodies.

Having two dials is a big thing from a usability standpoint, but having to pick up an xxD or better to get it on Canon is a bit silly. That's one change I definitely welcome.
 
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johnctharp said:
moreorless said:
Personally I think its been clear for awhile now that the big hole in both Canon and Nikons lineup has been a DSLR the size of there entry level bodies but with the control layout/display of upper end bodies.

Having two dials is a big thing from a usability standpoint, but having to pick up an xxD or better to get it on Canon is a bit silly. That's one change I definitely welcome.

As I said I think its one area where I think they have played into the hands of rivals, especially mirrorless. The talk is always about size saving but really if you look at the cameras I mentioned theres not much size/weight difference compared to a small DSLR, the difference is I would say more that the mirrorless bodies offer higher end controls and build.

From the Nikon side I would love to pickup a smaller DSLR to go with my D800 but I just don't like the handling of the D5xxx/D3xxx series.
 
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DRR said:
I think... everyone's right. Also, everyone's wrong. It's all in how you look at it.

This is clearly an APS-C camera. Size wise it looks similar to an xxD (very similar to current 70D) but feature-wise, it looks more like a xxxD (lack of BB Focus button for example)

I realized that Canon has more APS-C camera lines right now than they realistically need.

EOS-M (Not DSLR so we won't talk about it here)
SL1
T5
T5i (xxxD)
70D (xxD)
7DII

I think, they are moving the xxxD line slightly up-market, and ceasing further development on the xxD line. The 70D is very close to the 7D line and I think they want more separation there. I also predict they merge the T5 line with the SL1 line, as these two lines serve essentially the same market - they want a DSLR but are both size and price sensitive, and are willing to give up features/performance because most of them will just be shot in AUTO most of the time.

From a marketing perspective, I think 2015 APS-C DSLRs looks like this -

SL1 (Older technology, size is the differentiator, mass market SLR that's small)
New xxxD, the T6i - (new tech, mass market, feature focused (wifi, touchscreen, GPS, NFC, etc) )
7DII - Flagship APS-C Pro build quality and features.

SL1 line, >$500 with kit lens.
New xxxD, >$1000 with better kit lens.
7DII, >$1500 body only (will drop in price in 2015)

Just my 2 cents. 8)

::) almost correct....it's gonna be the DIGITAL Elan with EyeControl ! ;D
 
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