New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

[weixing]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

Hi,
Lens at the extreme end (either it's extreme wide, long or fast) are always going to be very expensive... So is the lens at US$3K expensive?? Yes. But is it worth it? Yes, if you need it especially there is basically not many alternative available.

Anyway, if many photographer will paid US$11K for the EF 600mm F4L, I don't see why photographer won't paid US$3K for the widest FF lens out there to get that unique shot.

Have a nice day.

 

[wfmiller]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

At last, a Canon lens that goes straight on to my 'need to get' list ;-)

Price looks just fine ...YMMV ;-)

+1

This will be the second lens I will buy immediately upon release.

Price looks fine to me as well

+2
Gotta have it!!

 

[keithcooper]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

At last, a Canon lens that goes straight on to my 'need to get' list ;-)
Price looks just fine ...YMMV ;-)

+1
This will be the second lens I will buy immediately upon release.
Price looks fine to me as well

+2
Gotta have it!!

One lens review I'm definitely looking forward to doing ;-)

 

[fragilesi]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

This lens isn't for me because of the price pure and simple. For me, short of a lottery win, there is no way i could justify so much on a lens. (This is in no way a complaint there are simply things that I cannot afford when set against other priorities).

But what another absolute slap in the chops this will be if it delivers for those who keep trying to claim that Canon are not innovative.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

You are the greatest piece of gear.

If that is true, then my kit is getting pretty old. ;D How can I upgrade to a newer model? LoL

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

Finally and replacement for the Sigma 12-24. A useful but deeply flawed lens.
erm....$3K??? Really?

 

[slclick]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

How many of Canon's recent L lenses have been nothing short of fantastic? The conservative approach (complainers call it lack of innovation) has given us near perfect glass and some of it at very competitive and affordable prices.

i.e. 16-35 f/4L, 100-400 Mk2

It seems to me that each of the L series being launched in the past two years and newer have been exceeding most shooters expectations. All you need is to be a bit patient and the price will drop a bit. Wait 6 months or so and it gets on CPW's Street Price list.

I bet this new UWA Zoom will be the same.

 

[J.R.]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

How many of Canon's recent L lenses have been nothing short of fantastic? The conservative approach (complainers call it lack of innovation) has given us near perfect glass and some of it at very competitive and affordable prices.

i.e. 16-35 f/4L, 100-400 Mk2

It seems to me that each of the L series being launched in the past two years and newer have been exceeding most shooters expectations. All you need is to be a bit patient and the price will drop a bit. Wait 6 months or so and it gets on CPW's Street Price list.

I bet this new UWA Zoom will be the same.

Some good sense here about the quality of the new L lenses over the past few years. However, expecting a steep price drop in 6 months appears to be unrealistic to me.

I don't doubt though that quite a few hobbyists (no disrespect intended) who will buy this lens and will rave about the fantastic IQ at 11mm will ultimately struggle with the massive FOV and the lens will come up for sale now and then at bargain prices a year after release.

 

[garret]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

We’ve also received confirmation that select retailers have been told about the EF 11-24 f/4L and that the price tag is in the area of $3000 USD

30 years ago the retail price for the Nikon 13mm F5.6 (yes just 5.6) was $2999,95 (Adorama May 1985).
today we are spoiled with high quality glass and low prices.

Garrett van der Veen

 

[Lee Jay]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

Finally and replacement for the Sigma 12-24. A useful but deeply flawed lens.
erm....$3K??? Really?

Let's think about that a bit.

This lens is basically a zoom version of the 17TSE. So, you have to remove the tilt and shift mechanisms, but add a zoom mechanism, design zoom elements for the zoom with good correction, and add a an autofocusing mechanism. All in all, this lens is probably a bit more complex and harder to build.

The 17TSE is $2,250 street, and it's not brand new. Is $750 more for a lens that's more complex and brand new that surprising?

 

[slclick]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

How many of Canon's recent L lenses have been nothing short of fantastic? The conservative approach (complainers call it lack of innovation) has given us near perfect glass and some of it at very competitive and affordable prices.

i.e. 16-35 f/4L, 100-400 Mk2

It seems to me that each of the L series being launched in the past two years and newer have been exceeding most shooters expectations. All you need is to be a bit patient and the price will drop a bit. Wait 6 months or so and it gets on CPW's Street Price list.

I bet this new UWA Zoom will be the same.

Some good sense here about the quality of the new L lenses over the past few years. However, expecting a steep price drop in 6 months appears to be unrealistic to me.

I don't doubt though that quite a few hobbyists (no disrespect intended) who will buy this lens and will rave about the fantastic IQ at 11mm will ultimately struggle with the massive FOV and the lens will come up for sale now and then at bargain prices a year after release.

Steep is your word

 

[luka73]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

is it just me left wondering why a 14-24 f/2.8 is still not in the Canon EF lineup ?
judging by the focal length it'll be a specialised lens, and given the price tag, I very much doubt it will gain any popularity before its price starts to fall.
Does anyone know why Canon landscape shooters don't have a 14-24 zoom lens ? are we expected to switch to Nikon ? (tongue in cheek, sort of)
Cheers

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

Finally and replacement for the Sigma 12-24. A useful but deeply flawed lens.
erm....$3K??? Really?

Let's think about that a bit.

This lens is basically a zoom version of the 17TSE. So, you have to remove the tilt and shift mechanisms, but add a zoom mechanism, design zoom elements for the zoom with good correction, and add a an autofocusing mechanism. All in all, this lens is probably a bit more complex and harder to build.

The 17TSE is $2,250 street, and it's not brand new. Is $750 more for a lens that's more complex and brand new that surprising?

Not really. From a design perspective they are very very different, sure the 17TS-E might give you a stitched 11mm rectilinear image that will mean there might be some similarity to the front element if they go in that element layout direction, but that fov is in the 3:1 aspect ratio not a 3:2. Further, the differences between the tilt/shift mechanism that require all the glass to be very far to the front of the lens and require an overly extreme retrofocus design with no AF, and the zoom group/s with AF that allow glass placement anywhere within the lightpath, are about as major as you can get.

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

Going out on a limb.

but if you need to complain about $3,000 for a lens that no one else makes on the planet. or ever has. that is unique then perhaps you need another hobby.

go take a look at the price of some unique lecia lenses, like the tri-elmar M for instance if you want to see what unique optics can set you back.

at 11m on the wide end - no one has never done a 11mm 35mm rectilinear lens before. ever.

will it be a good optic? canon's been hitting it pretty much out of the park lately on their optical quality. no reason to believe this won't be excellent.

is it for everyone? no. but suck it up - with 60+ lenses in their system, not every lens is tailored to you.

will I purchase this when it comes out? not really. will I lust for it until I get it? heck yes.

will I also use it on my cropped as well as full frame cameras - oh yes - it will serve dual purpose. SUWA (super ultra wide on full frame, ultra wide on cropped)

 

[Hjalmarg1]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

<p>We’ve received confirmation that the camera that has appeared in a r<a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/01/canon-shows-off-a-new-dslr/" target="_blank">ecent Canon leak is indeed the next Rebel</a> and we should see the announcement sometime before CP+ in February. No specifications for the camera were given.</p>
<p>We’ve also received confirmation that select retailers have been told about the EF 11-24 f/4L and that the price tag is in the area of $3000 USD ($2899 in USA, $3099 in Canada was mentioned), <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/08/canon-ef-11-24-f2-8l-coming-cr1/" target="_blank">something we reported a long time ago</a>. We weren’t given an announcement date for this lens, but we shouldn’t be waiting too much longer.</p>
<p>Yes, at this price, the lens must have remarkable optical performance.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

That is one hefty price tag. I am a hobbyist and can't justify such cost. Seems to be that I'll have 16-35mm f4L IS for long time that delivers excellent images.

 

[ScottyP]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

I dunno.

The Nikon 14-24 is an f/2.8 lens and this one isn't.

And the Nikon costs $1,999.00 and this one is $3,000.00.

And the Nikon is well-regarded from everything I read.

Can this thing really be 150% as good? Or if not, can the Canon shooters be desperate enough for this particular lens to pay this much more than Nikon shooters simply because they have to?

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

is it just me left wondering why a 14-24 f/2.8 is still not in the Canon EF lineup ?
judging by the focal length it'll be a specialised lens, and given the price tag, I very much doubt it will gain any popularity before its price starts to fall.
Does anyone know why Canon landscape shooters don't have a 14-24 zoom lens ? are we expected to switch to Nikon ? (tongue in cheek, sort of)
Cheers

not sure why most landscape shooters NEED 2.8

I think you'll find that a lot of Nikon shooters have switched to the 16-35mm VR lens over time because of the use of filters, size, better flare handling and front element convenience.

canon has the excellent 16-35/4 and this adds to it by going 11-24/4 - and also the 17mm TS-E for landscapes.

if you are doing astro nightscapes then nothing beats the Samyang 14mm 2.8 manual focus for that anyways because of it's extreme lack of coma and the fact that it has no electronics - and considering that astro-nightscapes you can be dealing with dewing, and you don't want AF, just less things you have to worry about.

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

I dunno.

The Nikon 14-24 is an f/2.8 lens and this one isn't.

And the Nikon costs $1,999.00 and this one is $3,000.00.

And the Nikon is well-regarded from everything I read.

Can this thing really be 150% as good? Or if not, can the Canon shooters be desperate enough for this particular lens to pay this much more than Nikon shooters simply because they have to?

11mm versus 14mm is quite a bit.

 

[mackguyver]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

I don't doubt though that quite a few hobbyists (no disrespect intended) who will buy this lens and will rave about the fantastic IQ at 11mm will ultimately struggle with the massive FOV and the lens will come up for sale now and then at bargain prices a year after release.

That would be nice, but I haven't seen many of the TS-E lenses going cheap! It will be a tough lens to use well given the massive FOV and lack of fisheye distortion to make the shot, ahem, creative. The cool thing is that with practice, okay a lot of practice, like I found out with the Sigma 12-24, you can make both conventional and very dynamic photos like the two below, respectively:

Having another millimeter and hopefully less distortion has me very excited for this lens!

 

[horshack]

Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly

is it just me left wondering why a 14-24 f/2.8 is still not in the Canon EF lineup ?
judging by the focal length it'll be a specialised lens, and given the price tag, I very much doubt it will gain any popularity before its price starts to fall.
Does anyone know why Canon landscape shooters don't have a 14-24 zoom lens ? are we expected to switch to Nikon ? (tongue in cheek, sort of)
Cheers

not sure why most landscape shooters NEED 2.8

I think you'll find that a lot of Nikon shooters have switched to the 16-35mm VR lens over time because of the use of filters, size, better flare handling and front element convenience.

canon has the excellent 16-35/4 and this adds to it by going 11-24/4 - and also the 17mm TS-E for landscapes.

if you are doing astro nightscapes then nothing beats the Samyang 14mm 2.8 manual focus for that anyways because of it's extreme lack of coma and the fact that it has no electronics - and considering that astro-nightscapes you can be dealing with dewing, and you don't want AF, just less things you have to worry about.

f/2.8 on an UWA is very useful for astrophotography. The wider and faster the lens, the faster shutter speed and lower ISO that can be used before stair trails/excessive noise appear, at least when shooting without a tracking system.